WhatsMyName said:
Can't deny that Maul was the best Sith ever...In the movies that is.
Um no. (Bill Lumberg voice)- yyyyyeah, um, well Im gonna have to sorta disagree with you there.
Surely you mean the prequals? Right?
yeah Ive seen it. I watched that game back in 03'. I never blamed bartman in the first place. That shortstop bungled, what was a little league double play, and there were other factors. If and when the cubs do win it all, I'll be happy for them. One of the best documentaries Ive ever seen.
I know what ur saying about the brewers too, walkingdork. Im a KC Royals fan and a St.Louis cardinals fan. The Royals have been in the basement for what seems like forever. Every year I hope for them and then, bust!
Granted the Brewers have been notoriously horrible in the last 2 decades (other than the last couple years) but we haven't spent nearly that kind of money on players.
Geez, hey george, along with the maul resurrection, why stop there? we could bring ani's mom back, or the roasted handmaiden from the queen's exploding starship in AOTC? Or how about qui-gon? What a bunch of crap. Post OOT, the SW universe has become an absurd joke.
Moviefan2k4
That's why I think a new term really needs to be invented, or maybe even have folks describe what they want in detail...but that would require contemplation, rational thinking, and overall objectivity, all three of which are sorely lacking in much of the "purist" community. If people want cleaned, restored, and updated video or audio for the theatrical OT films, that's fine; more power to ya. But don't stand around, constantly saying you want them "unaltered". Those who use that term are basically hanging themselves with it. 
Geez what a tool. Its so simple, all we want is the OUT given the same clarity and sound treatment as the SE's and blurays
Davnes007 said:
Hoth-Nudist said:
Also the "dellow feligates" speech during the senate hearing by SENATOR jarjar. Senator jarjar? Really Luca$? Nice writing there with having that orange dipshit make critical decisions.
Padme only referred to him as 'Representative Binks'.
I stand corrected. Its still a shitty scene though.
Warbler said:
I just watched it. I thought it was pretty good. After watching it, I have to feel sorry for Bartman. He's been put through a lot for just one split second mistake. I also have to feel sorry for Cubs fans who've been through so much heart break. If the Bartman thing had happened in Philly, he would have been disemboweled.
that said, I am still pissed off about the Phillies losing to the Cardinals. All they had to do to win was score 2 runs in 9 innings. But they couldn't do that. They couldn't score 1 fucking run in game 5. Not one fucking run!!! I feel hitting all the Phillies players with a baseball bat, to show them how they should have treated the baseball in game 5.
thats because Chris Carpenter's pitching kicked the phillies asses! Thats called a "shut out". Give credit where credit's due. And most cubs and phillies fans are assholes, present company accepted of course.
worst dialogue? Um, from the beginning screen crawl, to the credits. U all have posted some doozies though. here's another
Fireplace scene with ani & padme.
Padme(usual monotone): "we live in a real world, come back to it. Im a senator and your studying to be a jedi"
And I love how Luca$ has her wearing an "eat me" outfit all the while rejecting anakins' advances.
Also the "dellow feligates" speech during the senate hearing by SENATOR jarjar. Senator jarjar? Really Luca$? Nice writing there with having that orange dipshit make critical decisions.
Im at the point where I really dont care about SW except for the release of the OOT on bluray. To me, everything else is crap and I ignore it. I havnt given asshole Luca$ a penny in 4 years.
I also miss the excitement of mid 90's SW. Back in 93", I was recovering from 2 bad years, starting a new life and I rekindled my love for SW. SW was a great way to get my mind off the past and I enjoyed the new Thrawn novels, building and painting plastic models, the super nintendo games and the PC x-wing game, and talking SW with one of my BF's who rekindled his love for SW at the same time as me. I still have a "sci-fi universe" magazine from 93' that published the first announcement about the making of the prequal trilogy.
yeah, the brewers are tough. very interesting series and the birth of a new rivalry in the NL central!
Woohoo! Cards win again! 2 more wins and we're in the WS!
Heilemann said:
JasonN said:
twooffour said:
http://redlettermedia.com/half-in-the-bag/the-people-vs-george-lucas-and-star-wars-discussion/
Scene of the guys comparing cover art for the video releases, one guy holds up the DVD cover art for Star Wars:
"George let one of his daughters play with Photoshop."
"Awwww."Damn, I laughed hard for a few minutes at that one. :D
It really is tremendous how bad the covers have gotten over the years. It's been a general trend in films in general, much lamented by, by none other than Drew Struzan himself in The Movie Posters of Drew Struzan (worth your money), in which he talks about how the studios generally screwed him over several times and have now all but given up anything but the floating heads photo collage approach.
To Lucas's credit, he did hire Struzan for the SE posters and the Prequels, but the mind boggles at why LFL would release the covers they have been releasing over the years when they have some of the best artwork ever created for film, period.
Not to mention the blu-ray art... Ugh.
Agreed. I bet Luca$ denied Struzan's work for the DVD's so he would'nt have to pay royalties, and instead gave the duties to LFL's so called art dept. You're just not RICH enough are ya Luca$?!
greenpenguino said:
Thanks for posting greenpenguino! I enjoyed it!
theprequelsrule said:
*Please only post if you hate the prequels*
I would have to say the initial, short, lighsabre duel between Darth Maul and Qui Gon on Tatooine was my favourite. It was intense, not over-choreographed, and the first time we had seen a lightsabre duel in a Star Wars movie in 16 years.
Yeah I kinda liked that part too although Luca$ recycled the clip of maul's initial sabre block against Qui-gon and used it again at the end of the short duel before quigon leaps to the starship.
Bring_My_Shuttle said:
Several scenes actually:
Qui-Gon Jinn dying.
Darth Maul dying.
Shmi Skywalker dying.
Jango Fett dying.
Count Dooku dying.
General Grievous dying.
Nute Gunray dying.
Mace Windu dying.
Padme Amidala dying.
Really wish there were a lot more scenes like that. ;)
LOL! Pure gold! U forgot Jarjar though, so I'll create a scenario for u. Imagine jarjar hanging from a tree in a noose created by his own tongue and giant fork stuck in his ass!
The few scenes i actually like are:
TPM: Both Maul and Sidious having their "revenge" chat on some coruscant balcony. And most of the duel, although some of it's crap(convenient red shield doors? Obiwans silly leap out of the shaft? Isnt there a high ground rule? ;-)
AOTC: I like the darkness of the planet Camino and all the rain and the mystery behind cloning an army, although some of it's crap(Sifo-dyas plot device sucks ass and makes no sense). Enjoy Christopher Lee's presence even though Dooku's story(or lack thereof) is pathetic.
ROTS: Once we get past the opening silly nickolodean-caliber space battle and the Disney-like jedi/R2 comedy capers inside grievous' ship, I actually enjoyed the kenobi/anakin vs dooku duel. I also like the conversation between anakin and palpatine during the weird cirque soleil bubbles show.
And I do agree that Ian Mcdiarmid performed the best throughout these horrid prequals.
HELL YEAH!! Cardinals ROCK!!! What a game! hail to Chris Carpenter who out pitched Halladay! OMG I was on the edge of my seat to WHOLE game. That was some serious suspense! Bring on the Brewers!
Whooohooo! Go Cardinals! Big game Friday night! Cardinals are hot!
I keep hearing about Dr who and the fandom behind it. Ive no experience with show and dont know anything about Dr.Who. But im interested in giving the series a try. Where's the best place to start? Series? Books? Thx for input
Nice rant by some dude named confused mathew who runs some movie critic site, i think. I agree wholeheartedly
TheBoost said:
1. Totally inconsistent mood. Why so much darker and grimmer than the first film? Lucas was angry he didn't win best picture, pandering to the adult market. Pshaw!
2. Boba Fett. What a lame character! Sure he looks cool (action figure alert!) but all he does is take advantage of the fact Han is too stupid to look in his rear-view mirror. Fett doesn't even capture Han and the gang, he just tattles to Vader. LAME SAUCE!
3. Super Jumps. If Jedi could do super-jumps, how is it Ben didn't just escape from Vader like Super Mario? Another example of Lucas making up the rules as he goes along to be 'cool'.
4. Stop Motion. We go from the great computer controlled camera/stationary model work in the first film, to this terrible IN YOUR FACE stop motion. It's not photorealistic, and can never be as good as real motion. Why doesn't Lucas understand that good effects are subtle! And don't get me started on building a super-walker that CANT SHOOT BEHIND IT OR TO THE SIDE!!!!!!
5. Yoda. I doubt his gimmicky backwards talk would stand up to linguistic analysis. Or, to analysis doubt I it would stand.
6. Repetition. Dude in the Cantina lost a hand. Luke loses a hand. BORING. Star Destroyers in the first movie. BIG Star Destroyer in the second movie. REAL CREATIVE GEORGE! Han's afaid of Jabba in the first movie, Han's afraid of Jabba in this one. GOOD GRIEF!!!!!!!!!
7. Snow. For real?!?! Huge portions of the world are covered in snow at least part of the year, but Lucas somehow thinks that it will fool us into thinking we're on anther planet? What utter rubbish!
8. Time. Luke learns to be a Jedi in like, 40 minutes. That or Han and Leia never change clothes for months. Either way it's crummy writing.
9. Racism. I don't mean Lando. I mean that there's a whole species of ugly little men called UGNAUTS!?!? I bet that idea is what killed Leigh Bracket.
10. No Continuity. Did these people even SEE "Star Wars"? Where's the beard guy who was the rebel leader? Did he die? And if "Wars not make one great" like muppet-Yoda says, why was Ben a general? The Falcon flew just fine, why is it broken now?!?!?
11. No respect for the EU. Luke and Vader already fought in "Splinter of the Minds Eye." How come Luke is so unprepared. Lucas is just pissing on Alan Dean Foster's work. Pissing on it!!!! PISSING!!!!!!!
Preach on Boost-man! I totally agree! and in additions:
1) courtesy. Was Dack really dead? When Luke is shot down in his snowspeeder, he manages to get his stuff out, but neglects to pull poor Dack out! I mean, Luke could've pulled Dack out and layed him aside, possifbly for a droid with a medical capsule, or a trip to the bacta tank later on. Or Luke could've had a small funeral pyre right next to his speeder and said a few words or a R.I.P. But instead, selfish Luke gets his supplies out and poor Dack gets stomped into Rebel pizza. Shameful writing by Luca$. Shameful I say!
2) mechanical miracle? Luke's x-wing does a Peter Pan into a soupy Dagobah pond upon arrival and sits there for quite some time. When yoda forced that sucker out, that ship should have been disassembled and cleaned properly. Definitely order some new parts, because who knows what kind of dirty microbes got stuck into the x-wings engines! And Luke is still pulling snakes and pond scum out of that ship right before he leaves. But yet, the x-wing starts up and Luke is able to fly out of there with NO PROBLEM! RIIIIIGHT. I mean, if I drive my car off a bridge into the lake and leave it there for a month, will it start up after i have it dragged out? I....DIDNT.....THINK......SO! Golden writing there Luca$ SHEESH!
3) Horny on Hoth? In the first part of ESB, Han has to tell Leia that he must leave to repay his debts, but is lusting for Leia's loins LIKE....A....BIG....DOG! Han mentions that he "could use a good kiss!", but we all know that it just starts with good kiss, then next thing we know, he wants to rip off her snow suit and slip her the pink torpedoe! Really George? Nobody is horny in sub-zero temperatures! I mean, Everybody in the base(which essentially is a giant igloo) has a freakin parka on! In that kind of weather, for the male personnel, the shrinkage factor has got to be epic! A dude doesnt think about sex while his testicles are retreating to his kidneys' for warmth! I guess that shows how much u know about sex, Luca$!
;-)
TheBoost said:
1. Chewie. This character does absolutely NOTHING of note the entire film. You could totally edit him out without altering the plot. I hope some fan-editor gets rid of this annoying action figure tie-in!
2. Setting. The desert!?! I see the desert all the time. How am I supposed to believe this is some exotic alien locale. The sand isn't even purple! And a jungle planet? Way to think outside the box there Lucass. There are tons of jungles... on Earth! Lame!
3. Masks. In another cheap ploy for action figures, they fill the wacky bar on Tattoine with all sorts of rubber-masked aliens. What, was Lucash to cheap to hire Ray Harryhausen?
4. Garidian. The only really fascinating character gets the short stick. Instead of mobbing up on the heroes and single handedly taking them out before they get on their spaceship, he goes and inexplicably tells the Stormtroopers where they are! It's totally out of character!
5. Ridiculous fight choreography. Why does Obi-Wan spin around 360 just to return facing forward BARELY in time to block Vader's lightsaber? To look 'cool' is why, because Lucas feels the need to try and appeal to kids these day who like spinning!
6. Wacky comedy. The uselesss wookiee growls at a silly little (and utterly useless) rolling droid that runs away?! Stupid C-3P0 thinks everyone got crushed. Did Lucas think the kids in the audience would run away without slapstick?
7. Why is there a grate that you have to shoot open to the garbage chute? How do the Imperials throw away their garbage? And wouldn't the stink constantly come up? Didn't anyone on this movie ever THINK?!?!
8. Terrible editing. The sandperson knocks Luke down and we get a bizarre loop/reverse shot of it shaking its stick. Did Lazy Lucas (was lazy) really think no one would notice?
9. Missed oppurtunites. Luke never kills anyone with his lightsaber. Han doesn't die in a heroic sacrifice. Leia doesn't get revenge on Tarkin. Chewbaca never tears anyone's arms off. And how come the Death Star, the size of a planet, only has like, 6 TIE fighters defending it? Why didn't Vader use the Force to choke Luke out in the Death Star trench?
10. Lousy acting. Debbie Reynold's daughter couldn't even be bothered to work out what her accent was. And could Peter Cushing have phoned it in anymore? He was wearing bunny slippers under the table for Pete's sake! Ford just does a lame reprise of his iconic American Graffitti role, and don't get me started on Aunt Beru! Ug!
11. The title. Star WarS??? There's only ONE war going on, dumbasses!
12. Parsecs. Nuff said.
Yeah! Right on the money! I mean Luca$ should've totally chucked this in the can and instead, continue to fight for the rights to Flash Gordon! ;-)
I dont own the blurays, but Ive seen the throne room battle from ROTJ. One thing thats always bugged me is the scene where luke is pressing Vader backward onto a walkway with the hand-rails. Just before Luke cuts Vaders' hand off he narrowly misses Vader with a couple of wild lightsaber swings. Lukes swinging saber makes contact with the railing and is STOPPED by the railing. WTF! Being that it is a lightsaber, it should have gone THROUGH the railing. Then when luke cuts vaders' hand off, his saber also cuts through the railing, like its suppose to. That was a huge error and it still hasnt been fixed! BOOOOO LFL!! Thumbs down!!
Ive got lots of old SW Marvel comics. Ive got #1-6, which are pretty valuable, a bunch of scattered #'s and then the very last issue, which is the most valuable. I also have:
Tales of the jedi
Dark empire I, II
some of the x-wing series
boba fett
Florida Gators HC Will Muschamp interview.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gp7ckbHsMw
Doesnt know what a "Padawan" is, but has seen SW, and ESB. At least he has good taste! :P
Yeah Ive heard about the music butchering in the PT. What's unforgivable for me is Luca$ allowing Williams to conduct another "yoda's theme" and the insertion of it into AOTC during Anakins' circus-bad fighting in the geonosis droid factory. Its an insult to the theme by adding it to that crap of a movie and is totally out of place. "yoda's theme" always struck a chord with me when watching ESB and is one of my favorite parts in all the OOT. Jackass Luca$.
Great lists everybody! Like some of u, my tastes have changed since getting older. I worshipped the SW OOT movies during my childhood and into my early 20's. my favorites are in no particular order.
SW OOT
LOTR
Batman(1989), batman begins, dark knight
Heat
American Beauty
The Count of Monte Cristo
Real Genius
Clint Eastwood movies
James Bond movies
shawshank redemption
copland
castaway
the goonies
the bourne trilogy
Apt pupil
Comedies include: Airplane, Airplane 2, Fletch, Fletch lives, Top Secret, the naked gun trilogy, blazing saddles, dumb and dumber,swingers, nat'l lampoons vacation movies, stripes, caddyshack, office space