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#59325
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Editing the '2oo4 Editions' - which changes would you revert?
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Originally posted by: DexyMan
I definitely agree that 4/5/6/1/2/3 will most likely be the best order but I am going to wait until episode 3 comes out to decide that for sure. Watching them in their new order obviously ruins many surprises that the original trilogy has but it does contain new surprises instead. While it is clear that Anakin is heading in a bad direction it would still be a surprise to see just how much of a bad-ass he will end up being. It will also be a surprise to watch the Jedi go down big time in ROTS, and watching the main good guy Obi-Wan die midway through Episode 4. Other surprises hinge on how the script is for ROTS but (and I sincerely doubt it) he could actually keep the birth of Leia a secret, like you mentioned. If he does this then I would gain alot of respect for him because that will really help out his argument that the running order should be 1/2/3/4/5/6. Also he needs to have some action take place on Alderaan because then it would be a shock to see it destroyed in Star Wars. One final surprise he could do that would be nice is to leave the final outcome of Yoda in question so that although it wouldn't be shocking that the frog is a jedi warrior, it would at least be a surprise to see that he is still alive.

So basically if Lucas does it right I think both orders will have many surprises that seem very foreshadowed and obvious to us Star Wars veterans but will be cool for young people who haven't figured out exactly how fairy tales work. Also when watched in episode order each episode will be better than the one before it (cough, until Jedi that is).

Either way the original trilogy needs to be OFFICIALLY released on DVD yesterday!



Both Alderaan and Leia's birth are seen in 3.
I realy don't think that fat head Lucas is bothering to keep anything a secret anymore.
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#58993
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Plot Point Clarification---Please (re ESB)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58993/action/topic#58993
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See with R2, he's one lucky or unlucky little fucker.
First he goes off with little Ani and destroys the Trade Fed ship.
Then maybe with older Ani in 3...dunno about that yet!!

Then again with Luke and blows up a Death Star!!
R2 must think how come he always ends up in the back of a space ship blowing things up!

And why doesn't R2 recognise Yoda in ESB.
I know we don't actually see then meet in the PT...yet!!!.....But he must know who Yoda is, and if he does, I doubt he'd be fighting over a lamp with the great Jedi Master!!


I dunno...we'll just have to wait for 3, and then we'll all see....Thats it from me!!....I need a pee........So I'm gonna climb a tree!!!
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#58931
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The emperor
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58931/action/topic#58931
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
i hate this change...
you can see too much of his face... and it leaves no surprise for ROTJ...
plus in the second screenshot it looks like his face is melting...
arG!



Exactly...I mean, in Jedi, we really didn't get to see his face untill he was in the Throne room. When he came off the shuttle, he was still masked by his hood!!


Might aswell have big neon lights telling everybody whos who now. We're not stupid Lucas, stop spelling everything out for us!!!
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#58929
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Plot Point Clarification---Please (re ESB)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58929/action/topic#58929
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Originally posted by: die-jarjar-die
lmao!!!!!!!!!

You realise you've just unknowingly Jinxed this movie?? Damn you HotRod, its all your fault now if it sucks!

ps, dont forget the memory wipes..........if I lost me memory marbles I dont think i'd remember Tatooine either, but then again I can barely remember what I did 10 minutes ago! Ahhhhhhh the abuse of youth


Well it's gonna be shit anyway! We're all expecting this film to be the nuts, but most of us are gonna come out the cinema feeling like utter shit!

I hope not, but hey, really who's come out of the cinema the last 2 times feeling bloody fantastic. TPM......I could of cried like a baby. AOTC.....A little better but still not the real Star Wars.
I'm hoping for something real special this time round...Who knows ROTS (Didn't anyone in LFL pick up on that) may just be the one that saves SW.

Oh and the memory wipe thing...Yeah sure forgot about that, but if it does happen, will all his memory be wiped or just some of it. I mean, he'll have to get to know R2 all over again...And I think it's quite obvious that R2 doesn't have his memory erased!

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#58927
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Plot Point Clarification---Please (re ESB)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58927/action/topic#58927
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Originally posted by: Luke Skywalker
lol!
this is a great thread..
and just to HotRod... LMAO... i have a feeling... a very good one that your from the UK? or somewhere around there.. right?




I am indeed my man!!

Letchworth, Hertfordshire, UK -


And about Han and Vader thing, shit man, I used to think the exact same thing. If we are just talking about the movies then Han never really met Vader. True....
But if I remember correctly, in the old Radio drama (which I used to listen to all the time before we ever owned a vidoe player) there are a few lines which go to explain this. One part has Luke and Leia in the Falcon just after the Death Star escape, which has Leai telling Luke that the guy who chopped Ben in half was Vader, and Luke was like "oohh Thats who Vader is"..or some shit like that! There might have been some other shit with Han too, but I can't remeber. Anyway it don't matter coz it ain't the films, and thats what I base all my info on. EU...Blah!!

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#58808
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Plot Point Clarification---Please (re ESB)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58808/action/topic#58808
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Here's another plot point clarification.......I think.

It's all to do with why 3PO doesn't reconise his home planet of Tatooine.
Imagine if you will, that for the last 20 odd years you having been flying around the Galaxy. When all of a sudden theres all this crazy fighting going on. The next thing you know, you've been shot through space in an escape pod, landing on some shit hole planet in the middle of a big fuck off desert. Is you first thought gonna be "I reconise this" no? Why would it. If I got dropped off the other side of this world in a jungle or desert,after flying around for 20 years, I certanally wouldn't think that the chances of landing on my own planet were very high.

So why would 3PO?

Who knows what will happen in ROTS - Rots...Lets hope it doesn't rots. Fucking rots...man!
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#58793
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Plot Point Clarification---Please (re ESB)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58793/action/topic#58793
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Maybe because Obi-Wan and Luke were both on the Death Star. All of a sudden theres this kid shouting "no" from over the hanger. Obi-Wan dies, they escape, and next thing you know, this loud mouthed kid has blown up your "Death Star"(kills me in Austin Powers).
Put 2 and 2 together, and whadya get. Luke Skywalker.
Ships that blast off from Tatooine on your Death Star. Obi-Wan on your Death Star. It's a small Galaxy all of a sudden remember!

Shit, even I could work that out!
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#58684
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If GL EVER releases the originals...what should the covers be?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58684/action/topic#58684
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Originally posted by: Obi-wonton
This is a comprehensive listing of all the home release covers of Ep. IV
ANH home release covers


This is a comprehensive listing of all the home release covers of Ep. V
TESB home release covers

Again, Ep. VI
ROTJ home release covers

All the movie/theatre posters



Those covers in the link.
I have many versions of the trilogy on VHS with totally different covers. Maybe it's a UK thing!

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#58682
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2004 OT DVD release continuity error?!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58682/action/topic#58682
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I posted this on another thread..............


I know the real reason why Hayden appers as his younger self.
Some believe that when you die and go to heaven or what not, you can apper as a ghost when you felt happiest.
Ben died helping his freinds out in the Death Star, knowing he had found the 'new hope'. That's the only reason he spent all his life on Tatooine. His mission is complete. He's done his bit. He's redeemed himself for the Vader thing.
Yoda, simular in the way that the 'new hope' had made his way to Dagobah, with Yoda waiting all this time for Luke. Knowing that Luke is the only real way this shit will all end. So Yoda has done his bit aswell. Died a happy Yoda!
Then Anakin. Who died twice in a way. As old Anakin, he died happy. It was finished. They had won. With the help of his son, who up untill recently he thoght did not exist, (Maybe? - 3)his son had saved him. Killed that soab Palpatine and restored freedom to the Galaxy. But he also died once before. Was mureded by Darth Vader. When Anakin ceased to exist.

So why I say this change does actually make more sense is this, if you watch them in order 1- 6,......that is:
As ghost's we get to choose how we look. For Ani to look like his younger self is as simple as this, thats how everybody apart from Luke knew him when he was good. The duel that we'll see in 3, thats the last time Anakin Skywalker was ever seen. From then on he becomes Datrh Vader.
Only, when Luke saved him all he saw was this tired, sad looking old man.
So when Ani becomes a ghost, he chooses to look like the person they all knew and loved when he was still Anakin and not Vader.
Luke must know this too, so thats why he's smiling. He's happy at the thought of his dad having peace from now on.
Luke knows that he's done his bit too.........



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#58627
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Editing the '2oo4 Editions' - which changes would you revert?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58627/action/topic#58627
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Originally posted by: Rebelscum
HotRod, this doesn´t explain why then the younger Anakin wasn´t in the original Jedi. This is because Lucas is scripting this on the go and making changes accordingly to make up for his lack of vision. This proves that he only wrote some "very basic" outlines for the backstory to the Original Trilogy.

peace,

Rebelscum


No it did not before, but now it does. Back then it just meant finding a younger Ani. Unless you know why there's a younger Ani there in the fist place, you'd think, if you watched Jedi for the fist time, why the fuck is there a young Ghost?
But now after watching 3, you'll understand why.
And thats why Lucas is doing this. To quote "He's quite clever you know. For a human being".
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#58620
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Editing the '2oo4 Editions' - which changes would you revert?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58620/action/topic#58620
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I know the real reason why Hayden appers as his younger self.
Some believe that when you die and go to heaven or what not, you can apper as a ghost when you felt happiest.
Ben died helping his freinds out in the Death Star, knowing he had foung the 'new hope'. Thats the only reason he spent all his life on Tatooine. His mission is complete. He's done his bit. He's redeemed himself for Vader.
Yoda, simular in the way that the 'new hope' has made his way to Dagobah, with Yoda waiting all this time for Luke. Knowing that Luke is the only real way this shit will all end.
Then Anakin. Who died twice in a way. As old Anakin, he died happy. It was finished. They had won. With the help of his son, who up untill recently he thoght dead(Maybe? - 3) had saved him. Killed that soab Palpatine and restored freedom to the Galaxie. But he also died once before. Was mureded by Darth Vader. When Anakin seeced(sp?) to exist.

So why I say this change does actually make more sense is this, if you watch then in order 1- 6, is:
As gohst's we get to choose how we look. For Ani to look like his younger self is as simple as this. Thats how everybody apart from Luke, knew him when he was good. The duel we'll see in 3, thats the last time Anakin Skywalker was seen. From then on he becomes Datrh Vader.
Only when Luke saved him, all he saw was this tired, sad looking old man.
So when Ani becomes a ghost, he chooses to look like the person they all knew and loved when he was still Anakin and not Vader.
Luke must know this too, so thats why he's smiling. He knows that he's done his bit too.........





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EDIT...............

While i was writing all this shit, there were 2 more posts!
So it looks like I'm repeating what someone else said. I'm not
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#58272
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my thoughts on originals vs SE...
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/58272/action/topic#58272
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Anyway, I know it's a bit EU, but herea an intersting snippet from the Boba Fett book, which kinda explains why he does hang around with the Fat Man Jabba!!

And probably also why he never takes his helmet off! Maybe!! Well it's all bollox so who really cares!!
It's too hot for this shit today!


Another key ingredient is that Elizabeth Hand has Boba Fett continue to grow as a character. He takes a major step from being the boy we saw in Episode II towards the man we saw in the classic trilogy. He starts using his father’s armor, continues to wrestle with the fact that the Republic’s clones look like his father, and maintains his hatred of the Jedi. Boba even starts to form a surrogate family in Jabba’s Palace, thus explaining why he’d continue to hang out in such a dump.