Harmy

Wow, is that for real?

I think Ady said he'll make it so that Boba is Jango's real son, not a clone, and as Boba wasn't brought up by Jango since he was about 10, there is no need for them to sound the same, it would actually be very unlikely.

OK, I gave the subs a shot in Photoshop and After Effects and I ended up using a Franklin Gothic Demi Cond font. It's kinda slow work, so here's what I got so far:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdEQvFHnhgM

Oh, I'm totally against keeping Anakin's identity secret in the PT but because it shouldn't spoil any surprises for a first time viewer, because for a 1st time viewer it would be FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG to watch the PT first!!! That is just not the way it was meant to be viewed.

And like I said in that thread in that other part of the forum: Not that I know of...

Not that I know of...

Oh, come on, I was joking with the illegal thing from the begining and tried to imply by the way I wrote it that I was joking even in the reply to you :-D

Yeah, I always said that the menus were the only good thing about the realese :-)

Oh and, Chainsawash, thanks for that little favour you've done me that time, you know, way back when...

dark_jedi said:

Harmy said:

WOULD BE ILLEGAL FOR GOD'S SAKE

LOL, Isn't editing copyrighted video and releasing it to everyone illegal? To funny!

Wow, wow, wow, hold yer horses, who said anything about releasing, in my threads I usually instruct people to PM if they are interested in the edits but as far as the thread is concerned my reply to these PMs can well be: "Well, you can't have it, punk!" And there's nothing illegal about editing the video...

:-D :-D :-D

Well, I'd prefer someone making the PSD because I don't much like playing with text in photoshop but if I had the font, I'd give it a shot but you "procuring" it for me WOULD BE ILLEGAL FOR GOD'S SAKE and you have a PM ;-)

Yeah, I thought of using the 2004 DVD video for the subs, although it would mean a 4th different source to be dealing with. But to use the script you've still gotta have the font in your computer and also adding the subs in AVISYNTH would mean reencodig the whole video again and I don't think that is a good idea. I can't get them right myself without buying the font (and believe me, I tried.) If someone could make a PSD photoshop file with the subs in it (ideally already with the shadow and positioned and stretched for 720x576 anamorphic video) I could try adding them in After Effects, which would also be good for trying to match the grain and feather on them.

Thanks guys, that's what I wanted to hear :-D

About the subs: The source is an HDTV broadcast. Here's a sample of what the subs look like:

The font in that thread is commercial so I'm definitely not using that. I'm most inclined to just leaving the subs as they are...

Thanks, guys, I'll keep myself busy then :-)

I tried to do something about the added Boba Fett flirting with dancers shots, other than just splicing in GOUT because the GOUT quality is quite bad in these shots but it looks like I'll have to do it that way because no blending seems possible to pull off convincingly as the quality difference is sadly huge.

I removed one of these shots in the PDE but there I used a reversed shot of Chewie from later in the scene to substitute for the Boba shot but that is something I can't pull in a reconstruction so even though it will be quite a big quality jump I'll have to use GOUT for both of these shots.

Good eye, I've never noticed that :-)

Dunno, I'm experimenting with some shots now. It may be done in a week or two but I can't promise anything.

OK, a question, guys: How was the Classic Edition (and the other similar restorations)? I'm just asking whether this hasn't already been done, because honestly, for my personal watching I'll probably be sticking to the PDE until a true full HD version of OOT comes out, so if you guys can already get this in DVD quality elsewhere, there's no point doing it. There's no way I'm doing this in HD, which would make it worthwhile compared to other edits, but there's just too much GOUT and the KGAR is actually pretty bad too.

In other words, having seen the PDE (I'm keeping most of the changes the way they are there) and the samples I posted, do you feel confident this could be better than the edits released so far?

Concerning the ending celebration, I'd be using only GOUT there, as the SE celebration was heavily recut and while it was possible to get close to the original in the PDE using the SE footage it is not possible to do an exact reconstruction because while most of the original shots are there, many of them are missing several frames. But I think that the clebration in Jedi is a prime example of where the GOUT actually looks pretty good; (I guess it depends on the reel they scanned from but I don't know) It has quite a lot of grain but it's also got a lot of fine detail and has a very film like look to it IMO.

Sorry, but that will not be possible, the source has hardcoded yellow subs :-(

But still, could I have a link to where to find the subs?

Chewtobacca said:

You could always make a non-purist edition, if you felt like being a glutton for punishment. 

Well, the PDE AVCHD is a non-purist version of this :-)

Yeah, I agree with Chewtobacca that the SE shot of R2 looks better (they've done a pretty good job on this one, unlike on some in ESB) but it is a glaring SE change and this is after all a theatrical reconstruction.

Here's a video of four shots I tweaked for the Reconstruction:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmaCQiXHn7Q

It is only upscaled to 720p to retain some quality on YOUTUBE.

OK, I'm definitely keeping the SE shot then, as the only difference from the original is the two tiny little tie-fighters being placed behind Falcon as they should have been and that there's less garbage mates and those weren't originally visible anyway.

PM sent. Welcome to the forum :-)

Chewtobacca said:

hairy_hen said: Colour correction--mainly eliminating the general blue cast, and dialing down oversaturated reds on Tatooine--is the most important thing.  But the '93 transfer doesn't exactly have stellar colour itself, either, so I'm not sure what it's really 'supposed' to look like.  Given the kinds of differences apparent between the GOUT and the SW Technicolor print, the film's true look is most likely something in between the extremes of each rendition.

Yes; I think something between the two is a good approach to take.  As long as the result looks natural and consistent, I do not think it matters greatly what the film is "supposed" to look like.

 

Yes, you saw the PDE, so you know that's the approach I tried to take with the colours and will be maintaing that here as well.

Harmy, I would go with the SE in all those shots apart from 2.  I simply cannot stand even the most fleeting glimpse of the SE Sarlac beast, even if it is in the distance.  I even do not mind the recolored R2.

I'll go with Chaisawash's advice, exept I'm still not sure about the laser blast not being a 1993 thing...

Will this sync to the GOUT ROTJ audio and will you be removing the SE Bantha herd in its entirety?

Yes to both ;-)