Harmy

The search function is one of the few things that really suck about this forum. I searched "colars" and it says 0 results were found, although I'm staring at the word colars written in the last two posts right now and it has definitely been used countless times before.

Well, as much as I don't expect the blu-rays to be very good, I must say you or no one else here can possibly know that yet. They can be good just as well as bad, there is no proof either way. One thing's for sure though, there will be no OOT, so that will make the set shite no matter what the transfer will be like.

EDIT: And they definitely won't be upscaling the DVD masters, that would be ridiculous, the masters are already 1080p and were downscaled for the DVDs. What do you think the current HDTV versions came from?

Actually, in this particular clip, I toned the saturation down compared to the 2004SE, but due to brightening the picture up the colours shine through more clearly. And Rob, I love how gay you are about everything but enough with the praises, you're embarrasing me :-D

Yeah, but don't forget that the GOUT is wrong, you need to pump up the saturation to see the real colours. But that red sky shot might need more tweaking. Although I'm not sure it's worth rotoscoping around the characters. We'll see.

Here's a test if the Luke and 3PO scene could be done just trough colour correction and here is a comparrison with the 2004 colours.

Thanks for the kind words, I am truly happy that I was able to provide this to fellow fans :-)

The R2 canyon scene will be slightly brighter than in the SE but not as bright as on the GOUT as all evidence seems to point towards that being a 1993 colour-timing error.

As to the red sky, I'm not quite sure yet. I will definitely not be putting back most of the sky backgrounds where they were replaced (as the quality of the GOUT is mostly pretty bad and the difference isn't usually so big) but this one is quite a considerable alteration to the mood of the scene, so I'll have to test it out first.

Don't get me wrong, I did of course save the despecialized shots in uncompressed AVI for future Blu-Ray sourced release, I just deleted the replaceable source files such as Ady's MKV converted to 25fps or the SD shadowfiles I was using. It would just be too much of a hassle to convert everything again and redo the cut and the colours and then the encoding itself took like two days, I'm just not doing that again when all that the people who don't like the colours need to do is turn down the saturation on their TVs. I don't want to be an ass about it, I'm just very impatient and it's just really frustrating for me to do these things. But I'll gladly redo it if a decidedly better source becomes available.

Hey, guys, I just wanted to make it clear that when I said I was using GForced GOUT, what I really meant was I was using Dark_Jedi's (or Mattman Omega's - just for the Alderaan shot so far) 720p upscales, which they kindly offered to make available to me prior to release. GForced GOUT was a faulty label, because both scripts have been heavily modified for the 720p upconversion, I apologise and I'll make sure that everyone who contributed to this project will get credit for their work (if you check out the comparison presentation I made for Empire, you'll see that I gave details on what sources were used for every shot and I plan to do the same here).

@stinky: I don't think so, as I moved on to SW, I already deleted most of the source files for Empire and even so, I don't really want to make multiple versions of these. And as I said before the level of saturation is pretty much consistent throughout the movie, so if your main concern is the saturation, it can be easily fixed by your TV's or software player's settings. I actually just watched ESB on my HDTV and 1st I was horrified that  I totally screwed the colours up but then I tried a couple of different films and found out that the calibration was totally off on the TV.

@keyser: I'm afraid that the battle of Yavin won't be so super great, because aside from cutting in the G-Forced GOUT, there's not much I can do with it, which means it should look decent but it won't be as good as if they made a proper transfer of it. It should sound awesome with hairy_hen's mix though.

I thought that on the census it was just a joke but I just saw a documentary about the phenomenon in my country and there are people who are 100% serious about it, all the prequel crap and all. That is totally mental (well, I hope I'm not offending anyone's religious beliefs ;-) )

You should be able to play it from your computer (although I'm not 100% sure with mac but I don't see any reason why not).

Actually it is GForced GOUT beam and explosion rotoscoped onto an HD background plate.

As to the sources, I used Ady's 14GB 1080p MKV for Empire but the situation with SW is a bit different becuase only an AVCHD is available for Ady's version and 7,4GB is just not enough for 1080p and a lot of detail gets eaten up by compression, which can be clearly seen in this comparison which I posted on the previous page. So when using a high bitrate 720p source there should actually be more detail than in Ady's 1080p AVCHD. 

And as to the colour, it has recently come to light that the GOUT colours which Ady used as a reference for his colour correction are far too desaturated and not too close to the theatrical colouring (I'd say even more so with Empire than SW, even Ady himself says the colours in ESB:R will be quite different from his AVCHD version) so I'll try to bring the colours closer to theatrical (although in SW they won't be substantially different from Ady's).

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PS. GOUT stands for George's Original Unaltered Trilogy and it specifically refers to the 2006 bonus disc DVD, which contained a non-anamorphic transfer sourced from 1993 LD masters. Read more here.

Here's a new video. The destruction of Alderaan.

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Well, yeah there's quite a lot of misinformation in the DVD Active comparisons.

Also, welcome to the forum Greg, nice to see a new face. Did you sign the petition yet?

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Thanks for the info. Looking forward to the finished edit :-)

Also, I wanted to ask if someone with the necessary knowledge of avisynth could encode a video for me, which would be a plain green 720p sequence the lenght of the Greedo scene with msycamore's subs encoded in it, so that I could apply them easily in After Effects?

Sounds good, thanks :-)

So what is not listed stays the same as the international cut?

Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it :-)

I have about 70% of the shots that I wanted to do in After Effects and then comes the cutting itself and the colour correction, so I would say about 50% overall.

No, the visual difference is so small and the quality difference so big that I don't think it's worth it.