Harmy

Well, yeah, but in the original trilogy the Force was mystical. The fact that only some people can use it doesn't mean it's something physical, it can be in the soul or whatever you want to call it. It's just like in other fantasy stories only some people are born to be wizards and you don't need a rational explanation of that. How lame would a similar concept be in say Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter? "You see, Harry," Dumbledore said, "some people are muggles because they don't have enough midichlorians in their bloodstream...". The midichlorian explanation dumbs the whole concept down and totally destroys its mystical nature.

Oh, ok :-) Oh and sorry for misspelling your name, it was a typo.

I always thought that some people being able to use the force and some not and that it is something that runs in the family was quite clearly implied in the OT ("The boy is our last hope." "No, there is another." - "Force is strong in my family").

BTW. greenpenguino, the text in your signature is not cool. Frink only cited it from another site because it was so stupid that it was funny and you make it look like it's something he said himself.

Thanks. The shadow is already gone in the latest version of that shot.

As to the battle of Yavin, I'll be removing all the CGI shots with the scripted GOUT. It worked pretty well in the PDE for which I upscaled the GOUT myself and hopefully it will work even better with the GForced GOUT. I probably will post some tests later.

I tried that but the camera isn't perfectly still and also, because the wipe is circular, the bottom gets cut off too and there are moving elements there, I'm afraid it would come out painfully obvious.

Well, I would have done it but even now I had to add quite a few frames to the second shot, which wasn't easy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I89B4DW4DSQ

I'm planing to make some covers eventually but right now I have enough other stuff to do ;-)

PaulisDead2221 said:

Obviously the discs will look mind-blowingly perfect no matter what...

Well, the discs might look good, (the 2004 DVD discs looked pretty good too and so did the GOUT discs) the films on them not so much ;-)

Thanks for the comments, guys.

The whole shot is reconstructed using HD footage except for that little bit of sky. I was originally going to use GOUT for this shot, because it has a pan added to it, but after I managed to get rid of a pan in the Falcon leaving Mos Eisley shot, I decided to try with this one as well, so first I got rid of the pan roughly, then I stabilized the footage. Then I created an HD matte of the original background using screenshots from the SE and GOUT and than I rotoscoped R2 in from the stabilized footage, added grain to it and then I recreated the wipe from the previous shot.

Yes to all :-)

Thanks :-)

Here's another little video. Please comment :-)

Yeah, I'll be removing the shadow :-)

Also, someone said (I don't remember where, may have been a PM) that they'll stick to the PDE, because it's 1080p. So I just wanted to make sure that it's understood that these should be better qality with larger amount of detail than the PDE, because in the 1080p sources I used for the PDE a lot of detail was eaten up by compression. Here's a comparison of the source I used for the PDE (Ady's 1080p AVCHD) and the source I'm using now (7GB 720p mkv). Notice the detail in Obi-Wan's face and the grain on the panels behind him.

Not yet, no.

PM sent.

Yeah, I was surprised by that too. I was kind of counting on it to solve that problem for me.

bkev said:

Hey Harmy, if the telecine shake is the greatest problem can't you just use DJ's v3? I think it would be well worth waiting for a copy, as the scripts utilized originally started out to stop the jitter.

Yeah, except that it doesn't. DJ kindly uploaded the whole Mos Eisley sequence and while it looks great for being sourced from GOUT, the shake is the same if not worse than on the DVD.

Yeah, I noticed the shadow. It was there in the previous clip too, I might still try doing something about it.

msycamore said:

I can admit that I came off like a dick in my earlier statement in this thread (but you like di***  Rob, don't you ;) when I read it again and it was unnecessary and stupid of me and for that I'm sorry Harmy. 

Not at all, I quite understand and you're right, I do post these clips to get feedback and I'm happy for it :-)

Erikstormtrooper said:

Harmy, will these recuts affect the soundtracks?

No. Actually that's basically the whole point of those recuts, to keep it in sync with the original soundtrack.

hairy_hen said:

I did see that the dvd for Empire is out, but haven't had a chance to do much with SW stuff lately.  Feel free to PM me with the links and I'll check it out as soon as I can.  ;)

Since you seem to be very good at lining up frames from different sources, I had an idea about the problematic transition in the Mos Eisley test where the Jabba scene would be.  Would it be possible to dissolve between the '04 footage and GOUT before and after this takes place?  (Maybe using the '04 dvd instead of the HD for some of it so it's not as big a jump in resolution?)  So dissolve to scripted GOUT as the big-nose guy starts towards the camera, allowing the original optical transition to take place, and then dissolve back to '04 before the Millennium Falcon is seen.  Would this work?  The colour would have to be matched exactly, and the '04 would have to be cropped to match G-force's framing, but it seems like something worth trying.  Or, alternatively, a more lengthy portion of GOUT for the whole thing if that wouldn't work.  The only other thing I can think of is slowing down the footage to match the original number of frames, but I don't think that would look right at all.

 

Harmy said:

I think I already figured out how to do it using the HD footage only but I'll have to test it to confirm. I want to avoid using the GOUT footage as much as possible but slowing the footage down considerably seems even worse, so if it doesn't work, I think I'll just keep the straight cut.

 

Well, here it is, the latest attempt of removing the Jabba scene as closely to the theatrical version as possible (2006 DVD is in the lower left corner for comparison). It's not 100% accurate but it's as close as it's gonna get without resolving to using 06DVD footage. This clips also contains new version of the "door is locked" shot.

There is also the shot of Luke selling his speeder with the added ships in the background removed. I tried replacing the whole sky bit but the telecine shake on the 06DVD made it stand out like a sore thumb, which is something I am battling constantly (it's a problem present in every one of the rotoscoped shots to some degree) and I'd really love to know how to do something about it. I tried the stabilizing function in AE but it doesn't seem to work too well on it.

Rest assured, I have no intention to despecialize TPM :-)

@Rob: Wow, thanks, you make me blush ;-D

Just a fair warning though: While ESB was like 99% the theatrical cut, SW will only be like 95% and Jedi maybe even just like 90% theatrical cuts, because there were some scenes, which will have to be recut slightly to get rid of most of the SE while keeping it HD quality, unless the GOUT upscales prove to be better than I expect. In Jedi for example I'll have to recut the ending celebration and in SW I'll have to cut around the Luke and Biggs scene before the battle of Yavin. I'm going to do both of those scenes similarly to their PDE versions, which you can see here and here, although I'll try to recut the Jedi ending in a way to keep away from creating continuity errors. And there are other smaller things here and there.

But it wouldn't bother you if it didn't happen?

Ric Olie said:

kenkraly likes both versions.

LOL, Ric, I'm glad you're here to tell us these things ;-)