Harmy

Well, I did. Whatcha gonna do 'bout it?

Yeah, it is a 97 change, just checked ;-)

Yeah, I didn't check but I'd suppose so. Anyway 005 already updated his comparisons with it and it says 97 and I'm sure he checked :-)

Those are really nice Coov :-)

I will of course be making my own covers but I might recycle some design features of the PDE covers (basically the whole back I guess).

EDIT: As stated bellow, I decided against this later ;-)

Well, I was thinking about using that shot (I actually composited in the 97SE lightsabre there) but I wanted to keep it consistent throughout the whole scene, so I don't know.

I'm working on fixing the pink-purple flashes now and it's a bitch, there's so many of them...

Yeah, again, I used Ady's AVCHD for those Falcon shots and he did make it bluer than in GOUT but I think I'm just gonna leave it that way, because it looks good and it definitely beats the 04 green sabre.

I also tried to revert the wire model of the trench back to blue during the briefing but I did it straight in PD, so I'll have to wait until the next workprint is encoded to see how well it worked.

I did a few more cosmetic changes, like fiddling with the levels to get rid of some garbage mattes and I think I'm nearing completion.

I'll wait a few more days for any other suggestions you guys may present, then I'll render a final workprint, watch it, fix the last few things and I'll be good to encode. So if everything goes well, this should be finished within a fortnight :-)

fffffff said:

I am really blow away by all this hard work you are doing.  Here is something really picky.

There is a couple of frames where one of the Tie fighters  is missing. Do you plan to leave it in or take it out?

I don't know why I do these things to myself, cuz it took way more than just five minutes (although it was actually pretty easy) but here it is :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0QHAz_gLe0

Yeah, it's true, I'd also never noticed it until it was blatantly pointed out to me in that doc.

Well, if you look at the GOUT in the corner, the slowed down one fits the GOUT better and I'm quite sure that's how it originally was as they scanned that whole scene from an original 77 print, so the slowed down one should be more theatrically accurate. But I'll still go with the delayed one because slowing a footage down after the fact like this leaves a stammering effect behind and although it's minimal in this case, it's definitely there.

Happy birthday :-)

That's what I thought.

Guys, does anyone know what the hell is this about?

@ DJ: Don't mention it, man. I owe it to you, you helped me loads by sending me those clips from your Blu project :-)

@Radion: Maybe you're missing some codecs? Try instaling KLM codec pack :-)

Try MPC, it worked perfectly well for me. It looks great, btw.

Good to hear it's updated :-)

Just a little nitpick, the shot when Han destroys the tie-fighter actually has the tie missing for the 1st 2 frames.

EDIT: I thought it said 1st frame but I see it actually says a few frames, so ignore me ;-)

Oh, and the Luke hologram in ROTJ is still missing commentary.

And it would be awesome, if ILM actually got back to you. But yeah, I wouldn't really expect them to :-(

They could have very well just used uprezed LD for it. Would it look like shit? Yes. Would they care? No.

I just went through the whole doc looking for potentially useful shots the other day and there are very few that look just slightly better than GOUT and there are some that look decisively worse. And those few that are better than GOUT aren't complete and they could have been scanned for the THX WOW LD or some older docs. There is a lot of shots that seem to be from 97SE and there are anamorphic transfers of that.

hairy_hen said:

As long as the three paragraphs of text and the reveal of the planet synch with the music cues as they did in the '77 crawl, I'm cool.  ;)

BTW, I'd be interested in seeing the workprint as well to offer input about the colouring and such.

I'm still going to get you those subtitles, as well.

I'm glad to hear that, I was wondering whether I should start making my own subs :-) Anyway, PM sent.

@ tim: Yeah, I know what you mean, I'm gonna use the delayed one.

There it is, nice and simple :-)

Yeah, that would be perfect even if it was less cleaned up than the SE, which is a bit too clean anyway.

I'm glad we're getting to understand each other. We don't have to agree, just understand. And I disagree with but perfectly understand you view.

When you look at it as just a movie you want to enjoy, recomps can't bother you or can even enhance your experience. But I want to appreciate the film for it's historical value as well, and so I can't accept a version that's been tampered with. Clean up is something else, because in a restoration, you're trying to get rid of what wasn't originally there such as scratches and dirt but preserve everything that was such as unconvincing matte paintings and matte-lines, which definitely were there, on every single print.

But a new version with enhanced FX definitely has it's merits and I would probably enjoy it, as long as the actual original was preserved alongside it.

Yeah, of course, they had to make compromises but the FX were still awesome and most of them still hold up very well.

Yeah, I mean, of course the re-comps that keep it exactly as the original (and not all the SE recomps do) don't really alter experiencing the film and it is partly a matter of principle, although like I said, I greatly enjoy the aesthetic of an optically composited effect but that's just my personal taste.

And the over-all picture quality wouldn't have to be compromised but if it was slightly worse than the SE (which is debatable because the PQ of the SE isn't that great either but in a different way) I'd accept it - but only to a point: it would have to be actually restored. Similarly to Blade Runner - the FC footage was given a more in-depth, expensive and time-consuming restoration (and I mean prior to any alterations being made) than the other versions but the other version are restored to a state of looking great - that's how I want SW restored.

Well, like I said, that's exactly what I'm afraid of happening and no, I couldn't accept it. It would be better than nothing but it definitely would not satisfy me. If anything, it would piss me off because if they marketed it as "original" it would be a fraud.

I think that's only in 04SE STAR WARS but yeah, that one's definitely noticeable.

Yeah, exactly. And if there's a version with polished effects released alongside it, I have no problem with that, what I'm afraid of is a fake "original".