Harmy

Great news :-)

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You can see the size of the magnifying glass which is being used to scrutinize my project ;-)

Yeah, I seriously think that if there was any other, more advanced home video format, it would increase the bitrate rather than resolution. Many movie theatres have 1080p digital projectors and the PQ is stunning and the studios could use their uncompressed master files made for blu-ray (not necessarily a good thing but the studios would probably support such format for convenience). Even if there were TV screens and home projectors with a 4K resolution, I doubt that at screen sizes that could fit into a reasonably sized living room there would be any perceivable difference between having a true 4K master or an uncompressed 1080p one.

So, I made some further inquiries into that encoding error and made an interesting discovery. Read here!!!

canofhumdingers said:

Has anyone else noticed a glitch during the Death Star battle? ...

 

I just checked and this is present in Adywan's AVCHD version as well, so it's definitely in the original broadcast captures.

So, how does the Puggo Grande monomix compare to Belbucus' one?

It's in the source I used but I could of course fix it using another one but I'm not going to, because it took me two days to encode and upload this.

I'm gonna make a new version of these when the blu-rays come out, so these little things will be fixed then but I'm not going through the whole ordeal of encoding it from the HDTV source just because of something almost unnoticeable like this.

Done :-)

Oh, you watched despecialized, Moth3r? I'm really curious what you thought about it, an old important member such as you ;-) And I'm also curious what you thought about the final version hairy_hen, if you've already watched it?

Preferably in my thread of course :-)

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That I can agree with but in the case of the soundmixes it's also damn difficult to say which one is the real true original. All three would of course be best but that is sadly quite unrealistic.

C'mon man, calm down :-)

I see your point none but if we start demanding the "original" version of the end credits, while the other one was also made in 77 and is pretty much the same and definitely doesn't effectively change the film in any way, we would be totally playing into the cards of those who claim we are lunatics.

I actually believe that if there were two different versions during the original theatrical run, the most true original is the one that was most widely seen.

Oh, shit. Yeah, it's there in the master file as well. But I never noticed it till now and it's really minor.

I'm not sure what source was used for mastering the Aliens Blu-Ray but it is quite common to use an interpositive (a 2nd generation copy of the original negative) for home video masters. Dupe grain is the grain added by making a copy of a film strip by combining the grain already present in the source with the grain in the film strip onto which it is being copied.

theprequelsrule said:

How does the Alien series quad look

I've only seen Aliens but the transfer was amazing IMO. There was some scare prior to its release when Cameron spoke about personally overseeing the transfer and grain removal but the transfer it really nice and there is a lot of grain. If any grain was removed, it was probably just excessive dupe grain.

It would really depend on how much you mind the crushed blacks in the SE transfer, whatever else was possible to do with the colours, the crushed black are unfortunately there to stay. You can check out picture comparisons here and see the tread here.

yotsuya said:

But if you watch The LD Capture (I believe mine is the TR-47) and the GOUT and pay attention to the last frames when C-3PO raises his arm and the sand underneath is connected, it is very obvious that there is color change in the 2004 DVD and not the others. They did some weird things in their color correcting and this is one place where they really screwed it up. It's obvious from the nature of the glitch that they had some sort of selection to color correct C-3PO and didn't omit the area of sand under his arm. It is very obvious on my Sony LCD HDTV. It looks almost looks like a patch of grass.

I watched the shot like 20 times and I'm just not seeing it at all. Could you please post a screenshot of it, preferably with the thing you mean marked somehow.

I'm pretty sure that the refresh rate of the TV itself is always at its highest, what you can switch off is the technology of the TV making up frames that aren't there by combining successive frames - and that is what makes it look like video. If you have a 200hz TV, it will always refresh 200 times per second, the difference is whether the same frame is repeated several times or the TV makes up the frames between those that are actually present in the source - it's an awful thing for movies - when my dad bought an HDTV at my recommendation, he kept complaining to me that films look wrong. I could see it too but at the time I didn't know what it was but in the end I figured out it was the 120hz function and when I switched it off, it looked great.

Sorry, I didn't mean to sound so defensive. But I'm just not seeing it. The Tatooine matte doesn't seem any different from the original and I don't see any green blob in the scene you mention, it looks exactly the same as the original to me (save for the stronger saturation, which is present throughout the whole edit, because GOUT is very undersaturated).

Here are both shots in comparison:

I really don't see much difference. The matte painting is definitely the same as the original and I don't see any green area in the other shot. Or did you mean a different one?

C'mon, guys, there a politics thread in off topic.

@ yotsuyahis : 

The issues you bring up are so minor, that I wouldn't be doing anything about them even if I was to make a new version. In fact I'm not even sure they are actual issues (005, msycamore?). 

As to the soundtrack, you are very far off the track. The sound on the NTSC DVD is hairy_hen's 5.1 reconstruction of the 1977 70mm 6 track audio.

And if you want the mixes that you mentioned, just download the HD version - it has 6 different audios. The S(hit)D(ef) DVD version was never a primary goal of this edit and as such, it can't really be used as a reference point (although Chewtobacca did a great job converting it as usual).