Harmy

Chewtobacca said:

Ha!  You should start capping if anything interesting shows up. :D

I guess my perspective's different because I never watch a film on television these days.  There's always a BD or DVD or some such.

Well, I'm in the same boat, it just irritates me on principle.

And the worst thing is, they even do this on HD stations here - they broadcast a horrible, over-sharpened HD upscale of an old P&S master in pillar-boxed 1080i. I'd understand this with old 4:3 TV shows, but they often do this with older widescreen movies that already came out on BD.

OK, last check. Here's a final version of the nfo:

                                                              
               STAR WARS - DESPECIALIZED EDITION v2.5

 _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
|This is a fan preservation made for culturally historical and educational purposes.                                      |
|Fanedits and preservations must not be bought or sold.                                                                   |
|Please report every fanedit or preservation you find for sale to webmasters of originaltrilogy.com.                      |
|Fanedits and preservations are an artform and to be shared among legal owners of the officially available releases only. |
|Do not support piracy.                                                                                                   |
|_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________|

This is a reconstruction of the 1977 theatrical version of STAR WARS. The original shots were painstakingly restored using
various sources (listed below) and the film received an extensive shot by shot colour correction based on a fade free 1977
I.B. Technicolor Print.

The audio options include all three 1977 mixes in DTS-HD-MA format; the original 70mm six-track was recreated by hairy_hen,
the original stereo mix was captured from LaserDisc PCM and fixed up by hairy_hen and the original mono mix was restored
by Belbucus. Also included is an isolated score track, four different commentary tracks and a British commentary
for visually impaired.

An assortment of foreign audio and subtitle options (listed below) is also a part of this release.

More information can be found here:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Despecialized-Edition-HD/topic/12713/


VIDEO SOURCES:

1) STAR WARS Episode IV A New Hope Official Blu-Ray 2011 (Preliminary colour correction by You_Too)

2) STAR WARS 2006 Bonus DVD (sourced from the 1993 Definitive Edition Laser Disc Master - upscales by Dark Jedi, You_Too and Harmy)

3) Star.Wars.Episode.IV.A.New.Hope.1977.720p.HDTV.x264-DON (2004 DVD Version)

4) STAR WARS 1997 Special Edition (Reivax DTV capture)

5) Custom mattes, 35mm and 70mm film cell scans etc.

6) Team Negative1 35mm LPP print scan of the Mos Eisley sequence

7) Puggo Grande (1977 16mm print transfer)


Technical Specifications:
________________________

CONTAINER: MKV


SIZE: 18 GB


VIDEO: 1280x720p H264 23.976 fps


AUDIO: (Special thanks to hairy_hen and Belbucus)


TRACK  1) 5.1   DTS-HD-MA   [English]        (1977 70mm six track mix)

TRACK  2) 2.0   DTS-HD-MA   [English]        (1977 35mm stereo mix)

TRACK  3) 1.0   DTS-HD-MA   [English]        (1977 35mm mono mix)

TRACK  4) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English]        (1985 Laserdisc mix)

TRACK  5) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English]        (1993 Laserdisc mix)

TRACK  6) 2.0 Dolby Digital [German]         (1978 dub reconstruction)

TRACK  7) 2.0 Dolby Digital [French]         (1977 dub)

TRACK  8) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Spanish]        (1977 Castilian dub)

TRACK  9) 1.0 Dolby Digital [Spanish]        (1980 Latino dub)
 
TRACK 10) 1.0 Dolby Digital [Portuguese]     (1980s Brazilian dub)

TRACK 11) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Japanese]       (1978 Dub)

TRACK 12) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Italian]        (1977 dub)

TRACK 13) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Polish]         (1995 Voiceover)
 
TRACK 14) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Czech]          (1992 dub)

TRACK 15) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Hungarian]      (1984 dub)

TRACK 16) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English]        (1993 LD Audio Commentary - silence filled with 1993 LD 2.0)

TRACK 17) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English]        (2004 DVD Audio Commentary - recut to fit this release)

TRACK 18) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English]        (2004 starwars.com Audio Commentary - recut to fit this release)

TRACK 19) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English]        (2011 BD Archival Interviews Audio Commentary - recut to fit this release)

TRACK 20) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Isolated Score] (Compiled by hairy_hen)

TRACK 21) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English]        (Commentary For Visually Impaired)


SUBTITLES: (Special thanks to CatBus)

English (en)
English SDH (en-sdh)
Mandarin, Simplified (zh-cn)
Mandarin, Traditional (zh-tw)
American Spanish (es-419)
American Spanish Forced (es-419-forced; only with dub)
Castilian Spanish (es-es)
Castilian Spanish Forced (es-es-forced; only with dub)
Arabic (ar)
Russian (ru)
Brazilian Portuguese (pt-br)
Indonesian (id)
Japanese Forced (ja-forced; only with dub)
French (fr)
French Forced (fr-forced; only with dub)
German (de)
German Forced (de-forced; only with dub)
Turkish (tr)
Korean (ko)
Italian (it)
Italian Forced (it-forced; only with dub)
Polish (pl)
Romanian (ro)
Croatian (hr)
Dutch (nl)
Hungarian (hu)
Czech (cs)
Greek (el)
Swedish (sv)
Bulgarian (bg)
Finnish (fi)
Danish (da)
Norwegian (no)


Unverified subtitles (may need significant improvements):

Mandarin (Simplified), American Spanish, Arabic, Russian, Korean, Turkish, Romanian, Croatian,

Greek, and Bulgarian.


All subtitles are from "Project Threepio v6.4"

More info here:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Project-Threepio-Star-Wars-OOT-subtitles/topic/13794/


If you want to watch with subtitles, take your chosen subtitle .srt file from the

"Subtitles - Project Threepio" folder, copy it to the folder with the .mkv file and

rename the .srt file to the same name as the .mkv file, while keeping the .srt extension.


So for example, if you wanted to watch with Bulgarian subtitles, you would copy the file

"SW-bg-full.srt" from the "Subtitles - Project Threepio" folder to the folder with the

"Star.Wars.Despecialized.Edition.v2.5.mkv" file and rename the file to

"Star.Wars.Despecialized.Edition.v2.5.srt".

 

Disregard the formatting - it gets screwed up by the forum.

Oh, absolutely - I'd be first in line :-)

I really hope Disney doesn't pay much attention to what we're doing...

Well, to be honest, I just changed the title of the thread, so it would look better pasted into the nfo file, and I do plan to change it when v2.5 is out.

As to more bonus stuff, yes, I'm definitely not ruling it out.

And I already have all the sound files, so you can expect a release today, but later.

I wish they didn't. I see why it may be desirable for the preservation projects, but otherwise, it makes my skin crawl, when I see a movie that came out on DVD in wide screen like 15 years ago, still being broadcast in 4:3 - and it happens all the time in my country.

Well, I'm going to sleep now. Just a little warning, I'm gonna have a lot of real world stuff to do tomorrow, which is why I tried to get as much done today as I could for the MKV but it is possible depending on when h_h sends me the links to the remaining audio files and when I finish my real world work, that I will be uploading tomorrow over night and the final release won't be until Monday morning, but we'll see how it all works out.

Well, you see, this project is finished and about to be released tomorrow, so there's no point discussing new sources, which would at best be a marginal improvement. Plus from what I've seen, that LD suffers from pretty bad analogue video artifacts, which is by no means meant as a slight to the effort of it's preservation but with a few possible exceptions of heavily smeared shots (for the majority of which I already used non-GOUT sources anyway), it probably really wouldn't be a better source.

And as to the myspleen issue, please read the first post, would you?

Not 1980, but 1980s, which is what bttfbrasilfan said.

I'll put all the info in the track names as well.

As to which subtitles are verified, I have no idea.

OK, here's the readme, I plan to use, let me know if there's anything you think I should change or add:

               STAR WARS - DESPECIALIZED EDITION v2.5


|This is a fan preservation made for culturally historical and educational purposes.                                     
|Fanedits and preservations must not be bought or sold.                                                                  
|Please report every fanedit or preservation you find for sale to webmasters of originaltrilogy.com.                     
|Fanedits and preservations are an artform and to be shared among legal owners of the officially available releases only.
|Do not support piracy.                                                                                                  

This is a reconstruction of the 1977 theatrical version of STAR WARS. The original shots were painstakingly restored using
various sources (listed below) and the film received an extensive shot by shot colour correction based on a fade free 1977
I.B. Technicolor Print.

The audio options include all three 1977 mixes in DTS-HD-MA format; the original 70mm six-track was recreated by hairy_hen,
the original stereo mix was captured from LaserDisc PCM and fixed up by hairy_hen and the original mono mix was restored
by Belbucus. Also included is an isolated score track, four different commentary tracks and a British commentary
for visually impaired.

An assortment of foreign audio and subtitle options (listed below) is also a part of this release.

More information can be found here:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Harmys-STAR-WARS-Despecialized-Edition-HD/topic/12713/


VIDEO SOURCES:

1) STAR WARS Episode IV A New Hope Official Blu-Ray 2011 (Preliminary colour correction by You_Too)

2) STAR WARS 2006 Bonus DVD (sourced from the 1993 Definitive Edition Laser Disc Master - upscales by Dark Jedi, You_Too and Harmy)

3) Star.Wars.Episode.IV.A.New.Hope.1977.720p.HDTV.x264-DON (2004 DVD Version)

4) STAR WARS 1997 Special Edition (Reivax DTV capture)

5) Custom mattes, 35mm and 70mm film cell scans etc.

6) Team Negative1 35mm LPP print scan of the Mos Eisley sequence

7) Puggo Grande (1977 16mm print transfer)


Technical Specifications:
________________________

CONTAINER: MKV

SIZE: 18 GB

VIDEO: 1280x720p H264 23.976 fps

AUDIO:

TRACK  1) 5.1   DTS-HD-MA   [English]        (1977 70mm six track mix)

TRACK  2) 2.0   DTS-HD-MA   [English]        (1977 35mm stereo mix)

TRACK  3) 1.0   DTS-HD-MA   [English]        (1977 35mm mono mix)

TRACK  4) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English]        (1985 Laserdisc mix)

TRACK  5) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English]        (1993 Laserdisc mix)

TRACK  6) 2.0 Dolby Digital [German]         (1978 dub reconstruction)

TRACK  7) 2.0 Dolby Digital [French]         (1977 dub)

TRACK  8) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Spanish]        (1977 Castilian dub)

TRACK  9) 1.0 Dolby Digital [Spanish]        (1980 Latino dub)
 
TRACK 10) 1.0 Dolby Digital [Portuguese]     (1980s Brazilian dub)

TRACK 11) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Japanese]       (1978 Dub)

TRACK 12) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Italian]        (1977 dub)

TRACK 13) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Polish]         (1995 Voiceover)
 
TRACK 14) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Czech]          (1992 dub)

TRACK 15) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Hungarian]      (1984 dub)

TRACK 16) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English]        (1993 LD Audio Commentary - silence filled with 1993 LD 2.0)

TRACK 17) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English]        (2004 DVD Audio Commentary - recut to fit this release)

TRACK 18) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English]        (2004 starwars.com Audio Commentary - recut to fit this release)

TRACK 19) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English]        (2011 BD Archival Interviews Audio Commentary - recut to fit this release)

TRACK 20) 2.0 Dolby Digital [Isolated Score] (Compiled by hairy_hen)

TRACK 21) 2.0 Dolby Digital [English]        (Commentary For Visually Impaired)


Subtitles: (Project Threepio v6.2) Special thanks to CatBus

More info here:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Project-Threepio-Star-Wars-OOT-subtitles/topic/13794/

English (en)
English SDH (en-sdh)
Mandarin, Simplified (zh-cn)
Mandarin, Traditional (zh-tw)
American Spanish (es-419)
American Spanish Forced (es-419-forced; only with dub)
Castilian Spanish (es-es)
Castilian Spanish Forced (es-es-forced; only with dub)
Arabic (ar)
Russian (ru)
Brazilian Portuguese (pt-br)
Indonesian (id)
Japanese Forced (ja-forced; only with dub)
French (fr)
French Forced (fr-forced; only with dub)
German (de)
German Forced (de-forced; only with dub)
Turkish (tr)
Korean (ko)
Italian (it)
Italian Forced (it-forced; only with dub)
Polish (pl)
Romanian (ro)
Croatian (hr)
Dutch (nl)
Hungarian (hu)
Czech (cs)
Greek (el)
Swedish (sv)
Bulgarian (bg)
Finnish (fi)
Danish (da)
Norwegian (no)


The subtitles are stored in an external folder, if you want to watch with subtitles, take your chosen subtitle .srt file from the

"Subtitles - Project Threepio" folder, copy it to the folder with the .mkv file and rename the .srt file to the same name as the .mkv file,

while keeping the .srt extension.  

Feallan said:

I'm not sure if that's the case, the list appears to be chronological. "Revival theatres" suggests it's about 1981 re-release. Not sure about the DVD part though, maybe it means 1981 dub was on GOUT.

Does your dub have someone reading crawl text? If yes, maybe the reader says "Episode 4..." in Japanese?

Also, I think your dub is either the first, or second one. 3,4,6 were made for some TV broadcasts, and 5 is on Blu-ray, so it's special edition.

Well, Greedo is dubbed in the one I have, so that means it's either no.2 or no.5 and since no.5 is DVD and BD dub, I guess it's quite save to assume it's no.2, which of course still doesn't conclusively give us a year in which it was made.

EDIT: OK, through some more research, I came to the  conclusion, that it was made in 1978.

Well, they don't but do I understand it correctly, the no.2 dub is the one that was on the Japanese 2006 release and it was done specifically for it? I'm pretty sure the dub I have is from GOUT. CatBus?

I think releasing the bonus stuff as mkv for those who prefer that format shouldn't be much of a problem but we'll see when we get there.

Yeah, I remember they mentioned it on the show on several occasions :-)

Oh, yeah - didn't you know they worked on the prequels?

OK, so here's another little bomb shell for you - I changed my mind about the BD. Seeing as how I can pretty much fill a BD25 with just the film and its audio tracks and subtitles and an animated menu, I decided to leave the bonus material for a separate bonus disc, which will enable me to put more lossless audio on the BD and give the bonus material much more space to breathe. I thought about instead making it a BD50, but doing it as two separate discs should make the authoring much easier and also 2 BD25s are still far cheaper than 1 BD50.

There's no chance I can get it from that.

EDIT: No need actually - if he only dubbed Luke in the TV dub, then it is it, because they do say his name in the credits.

Now, what versions of the Spa and Fre dubs were on the GOUT?

No, I don't think so, unless it's the one CatBus just sent me, but it doesn't say v2.

@h_h: That's great! What are the bitrates of the audio tracks from you, h_h? I'm not sure MPC-HC shows the bitrates of the DTS-HDs correctly, I think it just shows the bitrate of the cores.

@Feallan: Well, that still doesn't really tell me which version is the one I have here :-/

Well, in the end credits the narrator says something about Magyar Television, so I guess it is the first one.

This has been discussed somewhere recently and someone said that they 3D scanned the models into a computer and then used that, at least in Episode 3.

The French and Spanish dubs I have are, I think from GOUT, so whichever version was on there should be it.

I'm not sure where the Japanese and Italian dubs I have came from and then I'd also need more info on the Spa-Lat and Por_Br dubs.

Well, it seems to be different from the one I have there, but the file is named:
SW-hu-1993-2.0-VHS.ac3, which could of course very well mean that it is the 1984 dub taken from a 1993 VHS - can anyone confirm this?

Well, so I guess you could say it's a 1978 dub reconstruction, no? Or  are there some elements that were added in '93?

It would definitely be a good idea, if I had the information for all the tracks, but unfortunately, I don't.

Is it SW-pt-br-1.0-TV.ac3? That's the one I've got.