Handzzz

brash_stryker said:

Oh my god! You magician! Add a brief closeup shot as the panel opens and it'd be perfect. Wow. Seriously in awe here. You've got to keep this.

And yeah, the red glow on the tip of the saber makes little sense, but you should still illuminate the compartment red, like it's lined with leds.

Yes! I was thinking for the same, becaouse it isn't noticable at first. A slower opening of the canister, and maybe a close up from Anakin looking down from the duel sequence with dooku. Then it will make sense "Do what must be done". Awesome work, keep it up!

chyron8472 said:

Loconut said:

The visor didn't move, it just looks like that:

At first I thought you had a valid point, but upon closer inspection I noticed the grey 'nose guard' (highlighted in red) didn't change place. It's still hanging above his nose, not on it.

One has to keep in mind that in the first shot we're watching from more of a top angle (to his head/helmet) compared to the second shot. This means Luke's eye seems to be behind the top of the visor (like it would if he had the visor on and was being looked at straight).

*sigh*, I'm always struggling to get my images shown....here's a link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/loconut/4931920517/

I hope this explanation isn't too hard to understand, since it's all due to spatial visualization.

doubleofive said:

Yes, looking up and backwards in a helmet like that would push up the visor and leave it up when he turned around. Makes sense to me.

 

hmph... okay look...

here is the shot of Luke right after Dak dies.
his visor is fine.


here is Luke looking over his shoulder
his visor is fine (or so it looks to me)



here is Luke looking forward again
his visor is messed up.



Even if it's messed up already when he's looking over his shoulder, I still don't see when it could have messed up.

You're telling me that if you are wearing (sun)glasses while sitting in a chair, when you turn around your shoulder/the chair will push them up on your face such that they don't sit on your nose properly? I doubt it.

I still say it needs to be fixed.

OMG, what a mistake! lol In filmmaking when taking a shot, it takes 4-6 times shoot the SAME reaction of the actor, to pick the best that put in the film. I think if you look back, the helmet is pushed back a little, and the visor is fixed to the helmet, so when the helmet moves up a little the vison follows it. Try it with a motorcycle helmet. Well it's not fix as this:

http://f00.inventorspot.com/images/top-gun-008.jpg

bobgarcia74 said:

Handzzz said:

bobgarcia74 said:

Awesome transition. :D It means, that there wouldn't be force lightning transition?

 The force lightning transition is gone. There will still be a lightning attack, but I will be reworking the hell out of it.

Yaaaay!!! :) I hate that scene. In the OT there is mystery around Palpatine, and like yoda's character GL copmletly destroys it. The Emperor was the most evil character, masters the force that no one else can, everybody fears him, and in the prequels he's nothing but a politician from any parlament from the Earth. Ridiculous.

Can't wait the final version of the film. :)

bobgarcia74 said:

All I can say is. It's getting there. FX still alittle rough, but it's taking good shape. Pay no attention to the audio at the end. I just tossed it there for fun, unless people think it would work 8)

Bed time.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1eYBqU26Eg

Awesome transition. :D It means, that there wouldn't be force lightning transition?

BmB said:

adywan said:

It goes from the most enjoyable scene to the most pointless scene of the movie just like that.

Most pointless scene? Talk about over exaggeration. This whole scene never sat well with me since 1980. It seemed pretty pointless and unrealistic. The Empire have just turned up and started a blockade around the planet. They are preparing to kick the rebels asses. So what do they do? They see the first transport and 2 x-wings heading towards them, with no other stardestroyers in sight, and just sits there and waits until it flies straight at it. Oh wait, what if it suddenly turned away from the stardestroyer? oh well, that one slipped by. Oh come on. If they are their to wipe the rebels out, which they planned to do with aerial bombardments, they certainly wouldn't have just sat there. They would have tried to destroy the transport and it's escorts. Vader knew Luke wouldn't be on one of those transports so they would have been just cannon fodder.

As it stood originally it just looked like an easy escape. There was no sense of danger apart from one stationary stardestroyer that was doing sod all. It wasn't a surprising victory at all. I never felt that the transport was in any danger of being captured or destroyed. I always wondered why they just sat there and so did a lot of other people.

They never change course, they never "just sit there". The reason they aren't firing is because the ships are out of range obviously. They don't do anything when the transport flies past because they are busy being disabled by the ion cannon. It's an easy escape yes, but only because the empire completely underestimated the power of the ion cannon, which it what makes it so enjoyable. Why should it be a hard gritty trudge to escape when you have such a powerful weapon to back you up? That would just be frustrating to watch.

As it stands it has an emotional place in the battle. With your changes it means nothing and is completely pointless.

When I saw the film my impression was, that the fleet didn't even noticed, that there is an ion cannon on the surface. And the rebels I think have enough IQ to hide that weapon. When you hideing from someone, you always prepare an escape plan, so the rebels. The imperial fleet is arrogant, like "We are here to stomp on some Cockroaches". They think they are soooo superior, that they go dumb.

INVAR said:

BmB said:

That would be the transport escape scene, I always look forward to it and I always get a thrill from it, it's one of the few small victories for the rebels in the movie, and as such is so much more enjoyable. Apart from looking incredibly fake in the trailer, having one x-wing shot down like that complete destroys that moment of victory.

It's probably going to be one of the few, if not the only change in the edit that might keep it from replacing GOUT for me.

 

I guess I don't comprehend how you could come to that opinion.

Adywan's addition in this incredible sequence adds the weight of peril and gravitas that was only merely hinted at in the original.  It showcases the desperation the rebels faced in that cell being able to escape an Imperial blockade, and how impossible it would have been without the Ion cannon.

Plus, Adywan's addition gives Reikkan's concern later on in the battle, much more weight when he says "I don't think we can protect two transports at a time".  The fact we see one escort obliterated by Imperial fire in Adywan's edit explains the risk the rebels faced by trying to send two transports at once to escape.

Also, logically, after the commander says "Good, our first catch of the day" - why is the Destroyer NOT firing at the escaping transport and escorts?  Adywan fixes that logical omission.

That an X-wing pilot is lost in that opening salvo of the Battle of Hoth is PERFECT.  The victory is in ESCAPING the Empire, the sacrifices adding to it's cost, and importance.

Totally agree. The rebels are the symbol, that a few clever and creative solider far more superior, than the brainwashed and robotic imperial troopers.

Who cares the blu-ray edition of Star Wars? The dumb parts will be remain in from the Special edition, and a Star Wars Revisited DL DVD version is sharper than a regular dvd on an LCD TV and the coloring is better for the eyes, so I don't care.

Rogue Leader said:

For all we know being a royal of Alderaan means you are trained in military tactics and doctrine along with politics. Makes sense.

Alderaan is peacefull planet of pacifist, I'm not sure they trained for military tactics. I think she's there to rally the people like Joan of arc. It is an emergency, and have not enough fighter to escort the ships properly.

In the world war there was pilots who was 20 yo, and commanded squadrons, it's not depending age, but experience and ability.

Cheers.

DIP said:

In Russian. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnkbYMAtDUg&feature=channel :)

I have done for Revisited Russian dubbing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23pPCqquwjg&feature=channel .

And ESB: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd0lO5sgfRM&feature=channel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAaYCLSroN4&feature=channel

Good work DIP! The trick is tahat the conversations is in the center channel, so you must replace it. I had unfortunatly stereo dub for star wars (D*ckhead Lucasfilms nidn't allowed to put on the dvd), so carefully added the sound moving frame-by frame. The music is in the same timing, so it didn't "echoing"

Here are the results:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS7gMwZTFg0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu8iSbJZJ-I

You can use Ady's 5.1 soundtrack, for the best result, but when echoing (like in the Death star coundown), that can't be remove to damage the    quality. Wery promising, keep up the good work. :D

And damn Russian dubbing for C3PO is much better than the Hungarian. :D

adywan said:

Something like Red Giants Magic Bullet Suite is probably the way to go to achieve this

http://www.adobe.com/special/premiere/redgiant_descrip.html

Thanks Ady the tip, it seems that always can count on you, who is lost in the ways of film editing. :) Respect! :D

Rogue Leader said:

Handzzz said:

Rogue Leader said:

Handzzz said:

Rogue Leader said:

Handzzz said:

Rogue Leader said:

There's changes for the sake of improvement and then there are changes for nothing more than flash. You may not care about the EU and that's fine but there are many holes we can all poke in this battle and not everything needs to be explained... Like Ady said, maybe when the walker tripped the neck portion breached or cracked and the rebel pilots aimed for that weakness. Simple as that... 

In the radio drama is there anything Luke says that indicates the neck becoming a weakness after the walker drops? If so then all that's needed is to add the audio, or some other pilot saying something like "Target the neck breach" the cutting to Wedge "whoaaaa!!!!! That got him!"

That's not so wierd idea, in WW2 there were doctrines to the soliders, how to take down the Tiger down effectively. Guess the director's inspired the ww2 tank battles.

http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/ttt_tigervulnerability/ttt_tiger_vulnerability.jpg

Ah! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law has been used! This conversation has gone too far. Error 404!

Whaaat? I didn't mention Hitler, what are you talking about? I wanted to point out that sci-fi inspires real historical events, or meanings. Are you speaking in Newspeak?It's history, bro. Tiger tank not equal to hitler. Anyway its a russan military article, so I don't get it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

Godwin's lay just states that the longer a conversation goes the more likely some kind of WWII comparison will be made and Tiger tanks were used by the Germans in WW2. Or maybe I just made that part up... ah well. Either way, I just wanted to bring up Godwin's law cos I think it's funny. ^^

Am I committed a thoughtcrime? lol The Tiger is a war machine, not ww2, or nazis. Anyway I sent a PM.

The tiger tank was a machine of war used in WWII by the Nazis... It was also used as a comparison for a topic that was getting rather lengthy and thus Godwin's Law just stats the longer a conversation goes concerning a controversial topic the more likely it is that a comparison to something from Nazi Germany comes up. I just think it's funny when it does happen, in what ever form it appears, albeilt distant. ^^ 

Never mind... Anyways, how drastically will change ady the battle of Hoth? Will be like in EP4 Revisited endbattle? Its awesome that is but I can't imagine how awesome would be. Interesting conversations happens here, just curious. :)

Hi,

I want ask a question, that you're really know how to manipulate/edit videos. So, here it comes: how do I recreate this color to a video? Witch color cerrection sowftware do I need? If it is a standard RGB picture? I'm an independent filmmaker, and need my technichian to know it, thou he not really speaks english, so I try this forum, beacouse you guys talented in this.

Rogue Leader said:

Handzzz said:

Rogue Leader said:

Handzzz said:

Rogue Leader said:

There's changes for the sake of improvement and then there are changes for nothing more than flash. You may not care about the EU and that's fine but there are many holes we can all poke in this battle and not everything needs to be explained... Like Ady said, maybe when the walker tripped the neck portion breached or cracked and the rebel pilots aimed for that weakness. Simple as that... 

In the radio drama is there anything Luke says that indicates the neck becoming a weakness after the walker drops? If so then all that's needed is to add the audio, or some other pilot saying something like "Target the neck breach" the cutting to Wedge "whoaaaa!!!!! That got him!"

That's not so wierd idea, in WW2 there were doctrines to the soliders, how to take down the Tiger down effectively. Guess the director's inspired the ww2 tank battles.

http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/ttt_tigervulnerability/ttt_tiger_vulnerability.jpg

Ah! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law has been used! This conversation has gone too far. Error 404!

Whaaat? I didn't mention Hitler, what are you talking about? I wanted to point out that sci-fi inspires real historical events, or meanings. Are you speaking in Newspeak?It's history, bro. Tiger tank not equal to hitler. Anyway its a russan military article, so I don't get it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

Godwin's lay just states that the longer a conversation goes the more likely some kind of WWII comparison will be made and Tiger tanks were used by the Germans in WW2. Or maybe I just made that part up... ah well. Either way, I just wanted to bring up Godwin's law cos I think it's funny. ^^

Am I committed a thoughtcrime? lol The Tiger is a war machine, not ww2, or nazis. Anyway I sent a PM.

Rogue Leader said:

Handzzz said:

Rogue Leader said:

There's changes for the sake of improvement and then there are changes for nothing more than flash. You may not care about the EU and that's fine but there are many holes we can all poke in this battle and not everything needs to be explained... Like Ady said, maybe when the walker tripped the neck portion breached or cracked and the rebel pilots aimed for that weakness. Simple as that... 

In the radio drama is there anything Luke says that indicates the neck becoming a weakness after the walker drops? If so then all that's needed is to add the audio, or some other pilot saying something like "Target the neck breach" the cutting to Wedge "whoaaaa!!!!! That got him!"

That's not so wierd idea, in WW2 there were doctrines to the soliders, how to take down the Tiger down effectively. Guess the director's inspired the ww2 tank battles.

http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/ttt_tigervulnerability/ttt_tiger_vulnerability.jpg

Ah! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law has been used! This conversation has gone too far. Error 404!

Whaaat? I didn't mention Hitler, what are you talking about? I wanted to point out that sci-fi inspires real historical events, or meanings. Are you speaking in Newspeak?It's history, bro. Tiger tank not equal to hitler. Anyway its a russan military article, so I don't get it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

Rogue Leader said:

There's changes for the sake of improvement and then there are changes for nothing more than flash. You may not care about the EU and that's fine but there are many holes we can all poke in this battle and not everything needs to be explained... Like Ady said, maybe when the walker tripped the neck portion breached or cracked and the rebel pilots aimed for that weakness. Simple as that... 

In the radio drama is there anything Luke says that indicates the neck becoming a weakness after the walker drops? If so then all that's needed is to add the audio, or some other pilot saying something like "Target the neck breach" the cutting to Wedge "whoaaaa!!!!! That got him!"

That's not so wierd idea, in WW2 there were doctrines to the soliders, how to take down the Tiger down effectively. Guess the director's inspired the ww2 tank battles.

http://www.lonesentry.com/articles/ttt_tigervulnerability/ttt_tiger_vulnerability.jpg

My oppinion, that someone makes a movie like this scale, that it's good that someone knows these things.
Basicalli star wars is a ww2 movie, with cool designes ships and characters. For example I like the movie "Battle of the Bulge", but I loled that the Tiger IIB tanks are modified American tanks. It's good that a movie like this has a "historian" if is not real thing or is. Like if in the filmmaking procces, the creators is s***ing to the history that would be a disaster like 2012. Thank god, I'm rather impressed, that in America someone reading books. Or know some books. If you see some other films, not star wars, or some European films, you'll se what I'm talking about, that I'm not living in a native english speaking country,
so I can't explain. The other problem is that Hollywood don't care filmmaking, I don't remember, that in the last few years they produced a film that was worth watching. There are different genres: action, thriller, horror, detective, fantasy, the sci-fi is nothin but these 5
genres puted into the future. So in ESB it starts with little thriller with the ice monster, and continue with an awesome war movie, then it follows
with romance, and so on.
Anyways I'll rather happy, that these guys taking seariusly this Revisited projects, I'm excited and waiting the final product.

Thank you!!!! :)

bobgarcia74 said:

Next possible change, Watch in HD and watch Anakins eyes, if you blink you might miss it.

*Edit, this is just a idea. If I use this, it will be added to more shots of the scene.*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwpTE1ckgEs

Can that shot zoomed in? It's hardly noticable. Just a few second, but it changes the whole meaning of the duel.  It's a great idea, at last something emotional happening in the shot!!!!!

I think something like this:

And sorry the quality, I'm using ms paint, and worked on it 2 minutes. :P

Hi, ady, i'd like to ask a question. How you managed to eliminate the fake shake in the tie attack squence in ANH:R? I like to do a fanedit from the Bourne trilogy, but the most annoying things that the camera is always shaking, and you can't see nothing from the fight sequences. Thanks if you can help in this, hope you watched the movie and understand what I like to accomplish.

irn-bru said:

how about having one in scottish ?

It's up to you! :) Is there scot dubbed version of sw?

bobgarcia74 said:

An update. Last one for awhile. Gonna be buckling down and getting as much of this done as possible. Took a few days break and ready to get back too it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZHXwPWBirw

As again, better the the original. Do you plan to change Grevvius' death? Its annoying to see when Obi Wan torn G's chest plate, and the scene when the bastard moving like a spider.

EyeShotFirst said:

Star Wars was genius, and no matter how highly I think of my self, I ain't no genius.

I really want to tell a good story, but I just don't think it is going to be as fast paced as the OT. I can't avoid leaving the politics out of it.

Star wars wasn't a genius, but it had a good script. You can learn writing scripts, as if you understand the basics. See some real good films, like Leon, the professional, personally I like more than star wars.Or, read some books about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc1KzpMnuX0&feature=related

But is someone listening? I fell that I'm wasting my time.

Hi, becasouse I'm in this for a while, i mean i work in a theatrical company, I can say it is my job creating this things. First of all, if you want to make a good novel, you must understand the basics of scriptwriting. In my language luckily there are many scources, but these are translated from english, so I will find out the books you need, if you want. Avatar is a great example how to write an effective screenplay, if read a few thing about scriptwriting, you will understand in Idiana Jones, and other films. It's quite simple thing, and it is hard to master it.

For a first catch I give you a good book name:

Linda Seger Creating Unforgettable characters. Henry Holt & Company.

Anyway, I imagened that the Republic is so bureaucratic, that anakin must to take law to his own hands. The Clone Wars I think important, beacouse in there, anakin have a reason to change. Anyway, I work it on a bit, writing in english is bit difficult, if I want to write something to you understand. It's not my motherlanguage. ;) Anyways here's a preferable character type to make Anakin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TszuTgFx93U

Cheers.

Rogue Leader said:

Z-95s and fully armored Y-wings should, that and Victory-class Star Destroyers...

Yeah, Victory class SD's are cool. I found some real nice pictures:

http://warlords.swrebellion.com/wp/?page_id=42&g2_itemId=4240

http://warlords.swrebellion.com/wp/?page_id=42&g2_itemId=4214

http://warlords.swrebellion.com/wp/?page_id=42&g2_itemId=4199

Maybe someone will do some mocup? (Angel...?) :D

ZeN said:

Handzzz said

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS7gMwZTFg0

 Vader's voice is funny ... hahaha

Not as good as James Earl Jones, but I like it. :P