In any event, I’m saddened to hear this news. I’ve always been an admirer of her Singin’ in the Rain and in her other films. Her role in film preservation also struck a chord for me. She and her daughter are missed.
They’re still sleaze.
Five years ago, I’d have laughed at anyone suggesting the 80s/90s were simpler times. Then 2016 happened, and I’m not sure what happened.
If my avatar hasn’t made it clear, I like Star Trek a bit. I’d be interested in seeing this.
I don’t think I could take a CGI Fisher die in front of my eyes, that’s the epitome of tastelessness for me.
When the highlight gift is a six-pack of Pepsi, you know this Christmas was pretty understated.
Make sure you’ve selected the right audio track, there are several. Sometimes it defaults to the isolated score. I’d need more info to really help you out.
The prequels for one. Great soundtracks. But mediocre films.
Tron Legacy…
Tron Legacy is also a great soundtrack, but I happen to think it’s a very good film as well.
Yeah!
Superior to the original in many ways, actually.
NOT YEAH!
Don’t get me wrong, I think Tron is good…but it also hasn’t aged very well.
Tron Legacy is aging faster than light speed.
Oh gosh, that’s what Tarkin will look like in 6 years. I’m not ready.
I got some slightly-too-big clothes this year.
A friend I introduced to Star Wars has finally seen the Special Editions and now understands why I showed him the Despecialized Editions. Very neat stuff.
If what I read online is true and Hartnell broke the 4th wall to wish the audience a happy Christmas, then I really wish Dalek’s Master Plan would show up someday. It’s nigh impossible for hardly any lost episodes to ever be found though, yes?
Unfortunately, the episode where Hartnell wished us a happy Christmas was episode 7, “Feast of Steven”, the only 60s Who episode that wasn’t telecined, so the chances of its recovery are zero. Fortunately every other episode was, so there’s at least the possibility.
I didn’t get any impression from the score, I expect the tight deadline had something to do with that over anything else. It was serviceable, not awful, but didn’t leave an impression.
Palpatine is one cameo that I would have really disliked. Enough of his signature on every damn film. A one-dimensional character with no place in this tangent story. Same for a Hayden showing. Also super glad he wasn’t part of this. As an original fan, I’ve been bombarded with prequelisms for nearly twenty years. Glad they threw me a bone and let me enjoy the 1977 story again.
^Yeah, there were a few prequel influences here, but I’m glad they didn’t go overboard with it.
You also think Phantom Menace is the best of the prequels, which is awesome in my book.
I wish I could write well enough to write a full-on story, but I tend to use the same phrases over and over again.
They also call VCRs, VHS players, and it bothers me.
Are they not interchangeable terms? Always thought so.
But who calls them that? They were always called VCRs, nobody called them VHS players. Hell, most people didn’t even call them VHS tapes, it was just a tape or video, Betamax tapes were Beta, nobody got confused. It just sounds stupid.
What really cracks me up was when I had a young guy correct me from saying VCR to VHS player. That’s just wrong.
Generation X made and raised most of millennials. When an atrocity is made, you naturally blame the perpetrators, not the atrocity.
Not exactly true, Millennials were mostly made and raised by the Baby Boomers. Gen-X is responsible for the Plurals. They overlap like that.
They also call VCRs, VHS players, and it bothers me.
Most millennials I talk to don’t know who Humphrey Bogart is, therefore Casablanca. What a sad world. Meanwhile I don’t know anything they talk about, but I’m physically repulsed by a lot of it.
Did anyone get a good enough look at the recycled 77 footage to determine what master it came from?
Officially, they said it was archival footage of unused takes they digitally scanned in and matted into new cockpits just for this, so no new master of the OT.
http://screencrush.com/rogue-one-unused-star-wars-footage/
Merry Christmas! I only post every once every couple of months, but I read the forum all the time, so felt I should wish you all a Merry Christmas here.
I am surprised that only one point I had against the film has been the focus here. The main sin Rogue One commits is that it’s just boring to me.
Fan film and fan service, etc., are slurs only in the case of a huge feature film. We generally expect different things from something from a fan than from filmmakers. It goes along the same line of thinking where in response to people saying the Despecialized Editions should be official, Harmy saying he’d be outraged. Because he expects better.
Star Wars
Empire
Force Awakens
Jedi
Rogue One
Everything else
(If you want to know, Phantom Menace > Holiday Special > AOTC = ROTS > Clone Wars; Have not seen the Ewok films but they’d probably be around the Holiday Special)
Hi again, first chance to chime in about Vader again despite the topic having kind of shifted from that. So if that’s an issue I apologize.
In regards to the Bespin duel in ESB, comparing that to Vader going apeshit isn’t really the same. There’s so much context to that duel, so much feeling, so much shifting motivations, how Vader just toys with Luke for awhile and then goes all out by the end that it’s not even a fair comparison.
That’s not the point of the comparison. The point of the comparison is to prove Vader can be brutish sometimes. You’re looking too deep into it.
My point was that it’s not the same. Glad I’m able to look too deep into things.
In the new one, he just goes apeshit to a level only seen in something like The Force Unleashed
Starkiller was turning people into ash and crushing AT-ST’s with the Force so no.
It still looked like a video game, and might as well have been as ridiculous.
and it’s the only time he pulls out a lightsaber for anyone not wielding the same, calling to question numerous times he could have done so in the original films.
Well, I’ve been calling this into question for years so this seems more like a personal problem.
It’s entirely a personal problem, it’s my opinion isn’t it? 😛
The end of ESB shows Vader does have limitations, Luke was still incredibly inexperienced, why couldn’t Vader just lift him up at any point like he does the Rebels? Why does Vader suddenly seem so much more limitless in what he’s capable of doing with the Force in Rogue One and come across as sort of a putz in the original by comparison? His line in ESB, “Bring my shuttle”, shows just how much rage he was just trying to keep in after having his plans foiled. That’s not the same kind of guy who would just go apeshit to no-name rebels.
For one, Vader was facing against regular beings and not Force Sensitives. Secondly, he seemed just as imposing in ESB especially considering that Luke was a somewhat trained Force sensitive
The execution in Rogue One was still ridiculous, you can read my responses to luckydube56 for more on why that is.
In this way, the use of Tarkin was much more faithful to the character, he never does anything we wouldn’t expect him to. But Vader has changed from all the video games and the prequel films reframing his character since the OT that it somehow influenced how he is portrayed right before the events of the original film. It doesn’t mesh. Why would he be okay with sending in the troops onto the Tantive later on when he could just deal with them himself much more effectively? Why wouldn’t he use more effective means to torture the rebel commander on the ship, instead of accidentally kill him clumsily?
We should have gotten a scene like this in the OT. I don’t think Rogue One should be scolded for the OT’s mistakes. Also isn’t it a little more than implausible to assume Vader has never done something like this before?
I think DominicCobb said the same thing, but I wouldn’t call it an OT mistake and more Rogue One not doing enough to mesh with Vader’s portrayal there.
Anyway, most everything I had to say about it has already been said in the following posts. What did you think of those?
In the end the movie would have worked just as well without Vader, and for me personally, it would have benefited from it.
Harmy’s Respecialized Edition is probably your best bet for an HD 1997 ANH. I think Adywan did a 97 reconstruction for ESB with the DVDs and there are a few HD upscales of the LaserDiscs out there, but I don’t think there’s anything that’s absolutely the definitive must-have for those yet.
