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#237453
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General Batman Talk
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237453/action/topic#237453
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Originally posted by: theredbaron
Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
How about 'Batman Continues', Batman's Back!!' or 'Batman: The Caped Crusader'?

EDIT: Oh, and can everybody please stop referring to them as the 'Burton/Schumacher' films? Whatver you may think of Burton's movie, they don't deserve to be lumped in with the pieces of shit that followed.


I echo that sentiment, although I am pretty sure that Burton was the producer of Forever. *Pretty sure*, but not definite...


He did.
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#237328
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Silly Pics
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237328/action/topic#237328
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Maybe, but most of those images are just stupid and immature. The only one that looks like a lick of effort was put into it was that gif of the woman grabbign the plane wing at the same time Superman does.

What movie is THAT from?


I know they're stupid, but they're supposed to stupid in a funny sort of way. Does this mean we need a separate thread - "Stupid Pics"?
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#237258
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Silly Pics
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237258/action/topic#237258
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
I'm guessing some folks didn't like the film....

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7571/lexluthor00d3ei3.jpg

I might point out in the first Superman film, Lex wore a wig as well.


That's the idea - it's meant to poke fun at Singer and his slavish devotion to the first Superman film, which ultimately remains more entertaining than SR.
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#237257
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General Batman Talk
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237257/action/topic#237257
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Originally posted by: greencapt
Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones

Maybe they'll change it before the release.

I'd make a "General Superman Talk" thread but I figure nobody would bother with it at this point.


Well *I* still like Superman, and dissing 'Superman Returns'!

I forgot to say, HSvIJ, that I DID really enjoy Batman: The Animated Series! If the Burton/Schumacher films made *that* possible then their debt to society was paid for in full! I saw 'Mask of the Phantasm' in the theater as well and what a great film that ended up being.

I also saw "Mask of the Phantasm" in theaters. Great feature. Ironically, the love interest in that film was voiced by Dana Delany, who later did the voice of Lois Lane on Superman: The Animated Series and guest spots on Justice League.
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#237228
Topic
General Batman Talk
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237228/action/topic#237228
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Originally posted by: Lord Phillock
I wrote "Batman: The Dark Knight" not "Batman Begins: The Dark Knight"

and yes, I think "Batman: The Dark Knight" would be a more logical title.


Maybe they'll change it before the release.

I'd make a "General Superman Talk" thread but I figure nobody would bother with it at this point.
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#237030
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General Batman Talk
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/237030/action/topic#237030
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Originally posted by: greencapt
Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
After all, it was just a set, not a real church anyway.


"...its *only* a model!" heh heh.

Actually as we are in confessional mode of sorts let me chime in. NONE of the Burton/Schumacher moved me in any way, shape or form. Now I know that many people have profoundly moving experiences with the first two films and define their Batman experiences by them and I can understand and appreciate that. But for my tastes... meh. Now in '89 I was in about the height of my comic collecting and had been a Batman fan for some time. I even drove a batmobile- a blue '73 Buick Elektra with huge yellow bat-symbols painted on the driver's and passenger's doors. I like many people was stoked about the first film. What I wasn't excited about was the casting. Like many people I was wary about Michael Keaton and I was underimpressed by the idea of Jack Nicholson. After seeing the film I thought that Keaton made a decent Bruce Wayne but I didn't like his Batman. And I frankly hated Nicholson as the Joker.

Yes I know... blasphemy! But there were a couple things going on in my way of thinking:

1) By this time in his career Jack was not *acting*... Jack was being Jack. Nic Cage has the same problem right now. There's no technique involved... they just do their own thing which is what everyone expects from them. I never saw 'The Joker'... I saw Jack Nicholson being himself but with a horrible prosthetic mouth extension
2) The Joker of the comics was a skinny psycho. Jack was a tubby middle actor that everyone recognized. They should have gone with an unknown.

Actually until I sat down to re-edit 'B&R' I had NEVER watched any of the four Batman films more than ONCE completely through. I saw each on opening night in the theater and that was it. Yeah I've seen bits and pieces on the TV showings, but I never had any desire to see them all the way through again. Like I said- though I was a comic geek and all they just didn't do anything for me.

I very much enjoyed 'Batman Begins' though. I won't be like many people and say it was the second coming or anything but it was the first Batman film I've had the desire to re-watch and the first I've bought on DVD.

I'll ramble on more later.


Impressive assessment greencapt. I had no idea you felt that way about the first round of Batman films. You should meet my friend Erin sometime.
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#236917
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General Batman Talk
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/236917/action/topic#236917
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan

On the subect of church desecration, it's a question of intent. After all, it was just a set, not a real church anyway. But the point is, they chose to film a pointless scene of Batman desecrating a sanctuary before climbing the bell tower for the actual fight. That's what I had the problem with then and now. It was the intent behind it that I think was less than noble, both to the story and to Christians. I'm no Bible-thumper by a LONG shot, but this always got under my skin.

I was bothered more by the fact that Batman got his ass kicked by a thug who looked like Ray Charles on steroids. It bothered me then, and it still bothers me whenever I watch the film and that scene comes up.
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#236699
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General Batman Talk
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/236699/action/topic#236699
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Originally posted by: theredbaron
At best, Ra's is of ambiguous ethnicity, but generally accepted to be Asian/Arabic from my understanding. I've only read Son of the Demon and Tales of the Demon so far (and waiting on Birth of the Demon) and neither of them provide conclusive answers on the subject (though I suspect, as luck would have it, that Birth provides them all).


Probably done on purpose.

I actually like Val Kilmer's portrayal of Batman/Bruce Wayne. Does that make me a bad person?
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#236201
Topic
General Batman Talk
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/236201/action/topic#236201
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Originally posted by: greencapt
Originally posted by: TheSessler
Remember this bit of eloquent dialogue from All Star Batman and Robin?


I am SOOOOOO glad I took Chaltab's advice and avloided this comic like the plague!

On the other hand, I'm really digging what DC is doing with the new creative teams on 'Batman' and 'Detective'. Good stuff!


"Are you dense? Are you retarded? I'm the goddamn Batman!"...

That's just sad. And horrible. Horribly sad. What were they thinking? It's not even guilty funny like "I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!".

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#234947
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General Batman Talk
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/234947/action/topic#234947
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
Originally posted by: theredbaron


Well, if you're talking about the Frank Miller Batman (who is pretty much THE Batman these days), then he doesn't know who killed his parents (though he suspects it may have been John Corben/Metallo); he has nightmares about the event almost every night; and he dances on the edge of justice and revenge.

I believe Lex Luthor or someone else only tricked Batman into believing it was Metallo, and that was only post-Zero Hour. Even after Batman: Year One and Frank Miller's reimagining of the character, Joe Chill was still the murderer.


So yeah, while it may have been true to most of his history, I'd have to say that the character of Batman was almost untenable pre-80s, particularly from the point of view of making a Batman film today. Read any 70s Batman comic and tell me that it doesn't just read like Spiderman dialogue dressed as Batman. When I read the monologues of DKR, I think finally, someone has found the voice of Batman.


Though he has pretty much lost it now, if "All Star Batman and Robin" is any indication. Batman in the seventies wasn't really bad compared to the past twenty years. That was when they started moving him back towards his darker roots. The fifties and sixties were when Batman was a total doofus.


But he survived the 50s and 60s so be grateful.

So can anyone think of an actress who could play Catwoman in more sequels to Begins?