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Haarspalter

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#1032521
Topic
ROTJ is the best Star Wars film... discuss!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1032521/action/topic#1032521
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Alderaan said:

TV’s Frink said:

It says that we understand there’s no way a bunch of Ewoks should be able to take down an entire Legion of the Emperor’s best troops.

They should have had blasters and just helped buy the Rebels some time. Would have worked a lot better.

But … the Ewoks did that, right? I mean they kept the Empire busy due to their guerilla (home field) advantage and at least one Ewok …

f

… had a blaster 😉

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#1030172
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1030172/action/topic#1030172
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Darth Cracker said:

Seems every time there’s an anniversary we all get our hopes up and then… (insert Vader-esque “Nooooooooooo!!!” here)

We should create a [Crushed OUT Hopes Memorial Thread]. Imagine the discussions about the OUT in 60 years: “You know what, STAR WARS’ 100th anniversary is coming up. Oh well, since McDonalds bought Disney after the Third World War we should get our hopes high that we will finally get the OUT.”

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#1030016
Topic
4K restoration on Star Wars
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1030016/action/topic#1030016
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lovelikewinter said:

A feature on Lazy Padawan and the PTAS crying as people overflow second hand DVD shops with their 2011 Blu-Rays?

A three hour documentary could be interesting how the SWPAS cult mourn over how Disney & Kathleen Kennedy totally betrayed & disrespect Lucas’ vision and how they vow never to buy a Disney product again.

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#1028669
Topic
Are The Prequels That Bad?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1028669/action/topic#1028669
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Mithrandir said:

Kellythatsit said:
To simply highlight one as a rehash or some kind of fan service seems wilfully dismissive.

I find the whole “anakin skywalker is dead” to be ridiculous. It is and has always been supposed to be a metaphora. Vader says I am your father. He has always recognized himself as Anakin Skywalker.

Hmmm … Return of the Jedi?

Luke: I have accepted that you were once a Jedi named Anakin Skywalker, my father.
Darth Vader: That name no longer has any meaning for me!

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#1028566
Topic
Are The Prequels That Bad?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1028566/action/topic#1028566
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Kellythatsit said:

Haarspalter said:

Haarspalter said:

When Kylo Ren says to his father: [Han Solo. I’ve been waiting for this day for a long time] some of you might argue that this quote is clumsy fan service, because Vader said that to Obi-Wan.

Did Vader say that?

I think you mean “I’ve been waiting for you Obi-Wan, we meet again at last.”

Similar but different enough. I wouldn’t consider it fan service though, maybe an echo or a soft reference to the earlier duel.

This is actually the first time I’ve associated those two lines as having some kind of relationship to be honest.

It aren’t exactly the same words, but Kylos phrase definitely mirrored Vaders phrase.

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#1028539
Topic
Are The Prequels That Bad?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1028539/action/topic#1028539
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Haarspalter said:

The answer to the question Are the Prequels that bad? is to list the things what is memorable about them.

  • virginal birth of Anakin Skywalker
  • the prophecy of the Chosen One
  • Midichlorians
  • Jar Jar Binks
  • Anakin/Padme romance dialogue
  • Darth Vaders NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
  • rigid blue screen cinematography
  • 85% CGI Effects vs 15% Practical Effects (that’s just my guess)
  • (feel free to continue the list)

In the end, the things that are memorable about the PT are mostly the dissapointing (=bad?) things.

Let me enhance my first post to provide additional calmer air in this thread.

So, i said the PT is memorable for mostly the dissapointing stuff. Of course the PT contains some good stuff too. But to me the dissapointing ingredients are just too overwhelming to fully appreciate the PT as entertaining movies. Because of Lucas’ creative shadow, the PT became a melodramatic space opera and not a fun space adventure with likeable characters what the OT is. That does not mean the PT is BAD. A BAD Movie is (imo) somewhat like Highlander 2, Jaws 4 or RoboCop 3. ROTS is an okay movie and as far as i’m aware of the creative whereabouts, i can honestly give Lucas some credit that he put more serious (filmmaker) effort into his last prequel movie (cut down Jar Jar, throw out young Han Solo, throw out Palpatines fatherhood, tighten the focus on Anakin’s arc within Editing & Re-Shoots).

As for the so called fan service in TFA & R1: i can give TFA a free pass with its easter egg (negatively spoken: fan service) elements because it was the first Star Wars movie after 15 years of Special Edition/Prequel melancholia and none of them interfered with the story. But R1 on the other hand, should have been more confident with its own story material rather than rely on (imo) too much easter egg (negatively spoken: fan service) elements. Just an example: the presence of Tarkin & Vader diminished the the story/character impact of Krennic. Tarkin and Vader had no reason to be in this movie. Just do a quick hologram cameo - that’s it. Don’t undermine the main villain!

When Kylo Ren says to his father: [Han Solo. I’ve been waiting for this day for a long time] some of you might argue that this quote is clumsy fan service, because Vader said that to Obi-Wan. On a secondary level that phrase is clearly an Episode IV reference (negatively spoken: fan service element). But on its primary level - [THE NARRATIVE] - the phrase works perfectly for the character of Kylo Ren. He dreaded to see his father again for years (Snoke hints that too) and Kylo Ren probably played through a potential reuinon hundreds of times in his mind. He said that specific phrase to make himself feel strong and to distance himself from the potential overwhelming emotions in that particular situation. It is a reused quote from Episode IV, but it serves perfectly the story/character drama.

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#1028143
Topic
Are The Prequels That Bad?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1028143/action/topic#1028143
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HP. Lovecraft said:

Honestly I don’t recall Rouge one having allot of fanservice. Force awakens on the other hand. Well, let us see
dialogues lifted straight from the OT. Check
Things from the old films being shown for a second or so for no other reason then to remind us that the movie takes place in the same universe as the OT and to get the ‘‘hey I remember that’’ reaction from the audience.Check

Rouge one has none of these problems as far as I remember.

You mean like:

Tarkin: “You may fire when ready.” CHECK
Darth Vader choking an Imperial Officer together with a sarcastic verdict. CHECK

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#1027955
Topic
Are The Prequels That Bad?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1027955/action/topic#1027955
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Ryan-SWI said:

TV’s Frink said:

Ryan-SWI said:

I’ll give you interesting characters for R1, but TFA’s characters are about as deep as a puddle.

This is literally the first time I’ve seen someone express this opinion, even here where every single opinion possible is expressed.

TFA being a disappointment to a lot of people isn’t news. I’m sure the people who just wanted fan-service were more than happy and more power to them, but I want more from a Star Wars film than [Insert Iconic Trade Mark Visual Here #72479], over an interesting story or characters.

What are you talking about? R1 is cluttered with fan service on highly distracting measures.

Please, tell me the difference between the fan service in TFA and the fan service in R1.

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#1027395
Topic
Are The Prequels That Bad?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1027395/action/topic#1027395
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The answer to the question Are the Prequels that bad? is to list the things what is memorable about them.

  • virginal birth of Anakin Skywalker
  • the prophecy of the Chosen One
  • Midichlorians
  • Jar Jar Binks
  • Anakin/Padme romance dialogue
  • Darth Vaders NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
  • rigid blue screen cinematography
  • 85% CGI Effects vs 15% Practical Effects (that’s just my guess)
  • (feel free to continue the list)

In the end, the things that are memorable about the PT are mostly the dissapointing (=bad?) things.

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#1026511
Topic
Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1026511/action/topic#1026511
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Haarspalter said:

My 1st impression of ROGUE ONE:

It is an entertaining movie. Solid, but nothing more. I wasn’t really emotionally invested in the characters and the story. TFA was much, much better. The Vader stuff was nice to see (especially his castle). CGI Tarkin looked interesting and almost convincing. CGI Leia looked awkward and stiff. The soundtrack was okay, but not memorable.

7/10

At least the movie is a nice gathering point for all Star Wars facets (OT, PT, Clone Wars, Rebels).

So, after my 2nd viewing of ROGUE ONE, i’m still stuck at 7/10 for this spin-off. It’s just a solid action movie with mostly uninteresting characters, prequelish narrative (we knew they would get the plans in the first place, right?) and distracting fan service elements.

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#1024927
Topic
Krieg der Sterne - Despecialized Edition 2.7 (German) (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1024927/action/topic#1024927
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Moth3r said:

You do not need to publicly announce that you have sent a PM. An update to a private topic is indicated to participants by way of the icon in the top right of the screen.

I understand what you mean. My [PM sent.] postings were supposed to be a helpful indicator for other forum members that these link requests were taken care of. I simply wanted to prevent that a new forum member gets confused by multiple Private Topic invites. Maybe i was too ambitious in that case. I’ll stop these [PM sent.] postings asap.