Although I’m not sure what version of III you’re watching, since I’m not done yet…
The answer is: INSTANT CASSETTES
Interestingly the “Close the Blast Doors” phrase was there from the beginning in the German Dub. At least my 1990 VHS TV Rip contains it (“Schließt die Panzertüren!”).
Seems every time there’s an anniversary we all get our hopes up and then… (insert Vader-esque “Nooooooooooo!!!” here)
We should create a [Crushed OUT Hopes Memorial Thread]. Imagine the discussions about the OUT in 60 years: “You know what, STAR WARS’ 100th anniversary is coming up. Oh well, since McDonalds bought Disney after the Third World War we should get our hopes high that we will finally get the OUT.”
Am I really the only person who liked the first 3 seasons of Enterprise and hated the last one?
No, i’m totally with you. ENT Season 4 was/is a major letdown.
A feature on Lazy Padawan and the PTAS crying as people overflow second hand DVD shops with their 2011 Blu-Rays?
A three hour documentary could be interesting how the SWPAS cult mourn over how Disney & Kathleen Kennedy totally betrayed & disrespect Lucas’ vision and how they vow never to buy a Disney product again.
Prequel Stunt Coordinator Nick Gillard gives insight on an alternate way how Obi-Wan was supposed to defeat Anakin in ROTS …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciBzvY4m0mA
… but George didn’t like that, so we got the “I have the high ground!”/ “You underestimate my power!” scene.
Das wäre super, falls das klappen würde. Meinerseits besitzt leider nicht das technische Know How irgendwas dazu beizutragen, aber eine Weiterentwicklung auf V2.7 würde ich sehr gerne sehen 😃
Kellythatsit said:
To simply highlight one as a rehash or some kind of fan service seems wilfully dismissive.I find the whole “anakin skywalker is dead” to be ridiculous. It is and has always been supposed to be a metaphora. Vader says I am your father. He has always recognized himself as Anakin Skywalker.
Hmmm … Return of the Jedi?
Luke: I have accepted that you were once a Jedi named Anakin Skywalker, my father.
Darth Vader: That name no longer has any meaning for me!
When Kylo Ren says to his father: [Han Solo. I’ve been waiting for this day for a long time] some of you might argue that this quote is clumsy fan service, because Vader said that to Obi-Wan.
Did Vader say that?
I think you mean “I’ve been waiting for you Obi-Wan, we meet again at last.”
Similar but different enough. I wouldn’t consider it fan service though, maybe an echo or a soft reference to the earlier duel.
This is actually the first time I’ve associated those two lines as having some kind of relationship to be honest.
It aren’t exactly the same words, but Kylos phrase definitely mirrored Vaders phrase.
The answer to the question Are the Prequels that bad? is to list the things what is memorable about them.
- virginal birth of Anakin Skywalker
- the prophecy of the Chosen One
- Midichlorians
- Jar Jar Binks
- Anakin/Padme romance dialogue
- Darth Vaders NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
- rigid blue screen cinematography
- 85% CGI Effects vs 15% Practical Effects (that’s just my guess)
- (feel free to continue the list)
In the end, the things that are memorable about the PT are mostly the dissapointing (=bad?) things.
Let me enhance my first post to provide additional calmer air in this thread.
So, i said the PT is memorable for mostly the dissapointing stuff. Of course the PT contains some good stuff too. But to me the dissapointing ingredients are just too overwhelming to fully appreciate the PT as entertaining movies. Because of Lucas’ creative shadow, the PT became a melodramatic space opera and not a fun space adventure with likeable characters what the OT is. That does not mean the PT is BAD. A BAD Movie is (imo) somewhat like Highlander 2, Jaws 4 or RoboCop 3. ROTS is an okay movie and as far as i’m aware of the creative whereabouts, i can honestly give Lucas some credit that he put more serious (filmmaker) effort into his last prequel movie (cut down Jar Jar, throw out young Han Solo, throw out Palpatines fatherhood, tighten the focus on Anakin’s arc within Editing & Re-Shoots).
As for the so called fan service in TFA & R1: i can give TFA a free pass with its easter egg (negatively spoken: fan service) elements because it was the first Star Wars movie after 15 years of Special Edition/Prequel melancholia and none of them interfered with the story. But R1 on the other hand, should have been more confident with its own story material rather than rely on (imo) too much easter egg (negatively spoken: fan service) elements. Just an example: the presence of Tarkin & Vader diminished the the story/character impact of Krennic. Tarkin and Vader had no reason to be in this movie. Just do a quick hologram cameo - that’s it. Don’t undermine the main villain!
When Kylo Ren says to his father: [Han Solo. I’ve been waiting for this day for a long time] some of you might argue that this quote is clumsy fan service, because Vader said that to Obi-Wan. On a secondary level that phrase is clearly an Episode IV reference (negatively spoken: fan service element). But on its primary level - [THE NARRATIVE] - the phrase works perfectly for the character of Kylo Ren. He dreaded to see his father again for years (Snoke hints that too) and Kylo Ren probably played through a potential reuinon hundreds of times in his mind. He said that specific phrase to make himself feel strong and to distance himself from the potential overwhelming emotions in that particular situation. It is a reused quote from Episode IV, but it serves perfectly the story/character drama.
Honestly I don’t recall Rouge one having allot of fanservice. Force awakens on the other hand. Well, let us see
dialogues lifted straight from the OT. Check
Things from the old films being shown for a second or so for no other reason then to remind us that the movie takes place in the same universe as the OT and to get the ‘‘hey I remember that’’ reaction from the audience.CheckRouge one has none of these problems as far as I remember.
You mean like:
Tarkin: “You may fire when ready.” CHECK
Darth Vader choking an Imperial Officer together with a sarcastic verdict. CHECK
I’ll give you interesting characters for R1, but TFA’s characters are about as deep as a puddle.
This is literally the first time I’ve seen someone express this opinion, even here where every single opinion possible is expressed.
TFA being a disappointment to a lot of people isn’t news. I’m sure the people who just wanted fan-service were more than happy and more power to them, but I want more from a Star Wars film than [Insert Iconic Trade Mark Visual Here #72479], over an interesting story or characters.
What are you talking about? R1 is cluttered with fan service on highly distracting measures.
Please, tell me the difference between the fan service in TFA and the fan service in R1.
The answer to the question Are the Prequels that bad? is to list the things what is memorable about them.
In the end, the things that are memorable about the PT are mostly the dissapointing (=bad?) things.
This … youtube … … girl (!) seems to know whats wrong with Rogue One:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3gf6qyAHOw
In the end, she makes a bold Suicide Squad comparison …
throws flashbang
runs away
2011-krayt-dragon-call-echoes-in-the-distance
My 1st impression of ROGUE ONE:
It is an entertaining movie. Solid, but nothing more. I wasn’t really emotionally invested in the characters and the story. TFA was much, much better. The Vader stuff was nice to see (especially his castle). CGI Tarkin looked interesting and almost convincing. CGI Leia looked awkward and stiff. The soundtrack was okay, but not memorable.
7/10
At least the movie is a nice gathering point for all Star Wars facets (OT, PT, Clone Wars, Rebels).
So, after my 2nd viewing of ROGUE ONE, i’m still stuck at 7/10 for this spin-off. It’s just a solid action movie with mostly uninteresting characters, prequelish narrative (we knew they would get the plans in the first place, right?) and distracting fan service elements.
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I understand what you mean. My [PM sent.] postings were supposed to be a helpful indicator for other forum members that these link requests were taken care of. I simply wanted to prevent that a new forum member gets confused by multiple Private Topic invites. Maybe i was too ambitious in that case. I’ll stop these [PM sent.] postings asap.
Hallo,
Habe schon Das Imperium schlägt zurück und Die Rückkehr der Jedi Ritter in der Laserschwert Version und bin wegen der Auswahl bei den deutschen Tonspuren schwer begeistert. Tolle Arbeit!
Würde mich auch sehr über Links zum Ersten Teil freuen.
MfG
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Hi,
I wait for this by years… please send me the links for download please…
please for Imperium und Jedi…Greetings from Berlin
chris
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Die Trilogie ist nur perfekt mit dem letzten Teil, kann mir jemand die Links schicken?
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auch hier würde ich mich sehr über die Links freuen. Episode V ist für mich der beste TEil!
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Auch ich würde mich sehr über eine PM mit den Links freuen. Möchte gerne die Ferienzeit nutzen und die Filme nochmal zu schauen!
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People is reporting that she died.
: (((((((((((((
GOD DAMMIT 😦
RIP Carrie
The prequels for one. Great soundtracks. But mediocre films.
Tron Legacy…
Tron Legacy is also a great soundtrack, but I happen to think it’s a very good film as well.
Yeah!
Superior to the original in many ways, actually.
NOT YEAH!
Don’t get me wrong, I think Tron is good…but it also hasn’t aged very well.
Tron Legacy is aging faster than light speed.
CAn somebody please sent me a PM how to get this version?
Thanks
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Stay with us Carrie!