Grand Admiral Thrawn

I think ending the trilogy and saga on something other than a Tatooine sunset/sunrise is a win.

vorpalnonsense said:

Sorry this thread has a whole lot of pages and I’m trying to catch up. I see in the first post that some changes have been made since v1 (like vader’s TIE). Has v2 been released? Or is it still in progress?

Still in progress.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

Ngl I definitely do miss having that Palpatine line because of everything it alludes to. Influence the midichlorians to create life (Force-sensitive clones), cheating death (essence transfer).

The problem is that I also like Kylo knowing that it’s a bad idea to kill Palpatine. That threat of the power he has to possess him should be what stops Kylo from killing him.

Could the lines be swapped?

To Kylo: “I have died before. Kill me and my spirit will pass into you, as all the Sith live in me.”

To Rey: “You want to kill me, that is what I want. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. You will be Empress. We will be one.”

Would love a link!

Actually add something to Finn’s character in the movie?! WHAT?!

“Dew it!” - Palpatine

jonh said:

Hello!!! hahaha, personally, I prefer the PHANTOM FOUR version. I have made this version because my best friend asked me for the favor, because he liked having more Jedi !!! but I prefer the original four !!! 😃

Glad you agree! Are you able to provide us with a version of the new take but with the layers for the other ghosts turned off, and Rey with the purple saber? The updates to the existing four are great.

Also, this need to be in this edit.

EDIT: The new ghost effects for the Phantom Four.

That guy is INSANE still waiting for a Shaw version of the Phantom Four. Fingers crossed!

I believe there was a shot of the engines as well. You can cut to the exterior after the shot of Pryde, and then to the shot of the engines to imply they are on their way before it cuts back to Rey and crew.

Hal 9000 said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

We already used the slowmo to fit in Luke’s “We’ll always be with you.” It worked there because it was just a close-up shot of Rey. Not sure if it can work as flawlessly here. I agree with Sherlock.

What do you mean? If it’s right before Rey calls the saber to her at the climax of the film, that wasn’t retimed.

“We’ll always be with you, but this is your fight”

I think it adds more to Jannah’s character to just be ready to help right away. She OBVIOUSLY knows they are not First Order. If she’s familiar with the Resistance that’s good enough

3PO -> Horse Man™ -> Rey -> Jannah

I think “Ally” line V2 works best for this scene. CaptainFaraday’s order seems like it would flow best.

The “highly trained resistance spy” line just seems like it would fit sooooo much better on the Star Destroyer when he is being interrogated by the Trooper while wearing all of Chewie’s gear.

It could be cut to say “It appears I am a highly trained Resistance spy” which works for that moment as C-3PO still doesn’t know much and he’s assuming he is this master spy because he’s wearing Chewie’s gear.

Spy line during the dagger heist Chewie rescue.

Ally line during the scene where they make an ally

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dzabdehat said:

I’ve found some more C-3PO files from the VR game that may also be useful and uploaded to the same link:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13z1OFidEJJ8LjGAjEbyvTFfEF_9Ap5t-?usp=sharing

One includes an “it appears” fragment, which I incorporated into the other line, so 3PO can now say:
“(You needn’t worry), it appears I am a highly trained resistance spy” - I think it would fit be a great fit for the scene with Jannah.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1p8VMqCJQJQEdt3N5i4bJOYUt5Ec2iSDu/view?usp=sharing

I think the highly trained spy line would be better for the stormtrooper scene when he is wearing all of chewies gear

YES. Never been a fan of the current dialogue. That would have made me laugh out loud in the theater. A welcome change!

Troop: “Wait. Who are you?”

3PO: “I am a highly trained resistance spy.”

Troop: “This job is a joke."

We can’t have the blade say there are 2 Wayfinders. Because Rey doesn’t realize there are two until she is with Luke.

"The Emperor’s Wayfinder is hidden from the light.

Heir of the Sith, embrace the darkness within and this blade shall tell."

I like the idea that Palpatine planted clues for his “Heir” to find Exegol and continue what he started.

That is why something simple would be best like everything else in this movie. A clear enough message to tell that the Wayfinder is on Endor AND a setup that Rey needs to use the dagger to let it guide her.

“The path to rebirth begins where our Emperor died. Embrace the darkness within. Only this blade tells. Let it guide you.”

Looking great so far. Is the plan for this to replace the Rogue One shot? Or extend the “Mustafar Minute” into two?

Here is why I think this translation could work if we are changing the context of the dagger:

“The path to rebirth begins where our Emperor died. Heir of the Sith, embrace the darkness within. Only to you will this blade tell.”

• “The path to rebirth begins where our Emperor died.” - C-3P0 would/should immediately know this is Death Star II, which remains are on Endor.

• “Heir of the Sith, embrace the darkness within.” - Calls upon Rey to go to the dark and further conflict her in the movie, when she goes into the vault she sees what that darkness would lead to i.e. Dark Rey

• "Only to you will this blade tell.” - The blade will only show the path to the person that is the Heir to the Sith. This could work for Rey Palpatine or Rey Nobody. Rey Palpatine, there is a blood connection to Palpatine. Rey Nobody, only someone who embraces the dark side can use it.

jarbear said:

Something on the lines that when the words are read, since it is a sith language, then the dagger is “activated to the heir/chosen one/whatever” since it is in sith language, not just a random person can pick it up and it will do stuff.

“Heir of the Sith, embrace the darkness within. The path to rebirth begins where our Emperor died. Only to you will this blade tell.”

Or if the Sith Cultists like Ochi were that obsessed with Palps…

“Only the place where the Sith died does the path to rebirth become clear. Embrace the darkness within, only this blade tells.”

Would it make sense to be more vague and allow our characters to figure out that it is Endor?

“From the southern shore of the forest moon, embrace the darkness within and the path becomes clear. Only this blade tells.”

“From the southern shore of the Endor system, embrace the darkness within and the path becomes clear. Only this blade tells.”

Hal 9000 said:

It’s hard to imagine that really working in practice from a fan editing perspective.

I get it. I swear this film is like a house of cards. Try to change one thing and the whole rest of the thing falls apart. Maybe just having Rey drop the lightsabers and collapsing after defeating Palpatine would be fine.

(Maybe it will help to remove the weirdness of the Force theme hitting its peak as Pryde gets flown through a window, maybe replace with Rey’s theme?)

Rey’s still “alive” and Finn senses her death and then the next time we cut back it’s the shot of her lifeless on the ground with her eyes open.

Would it make sense to try restructuring the end of Exegol?

• Palpatine lightings the ships
• Rey hears the voices and ghosts arrives
• Poe says this is our last chance we need to hit those cannons now
• Maybe use the quote from the trailer: “Let your death be the final word in the story of Skywalker” as it has more impact with Luke and Anakin being there
• Rey protects herself with the lightsaber
• Cut to Finn and Jannah blowing up the cruiser
• Poe’s happy because the command ship is destroyed
• Rose says Finn didn’t board the ship
• Rey takes down Palpatine and rocks smash everyone, Rey drops the lightsabers
• Cut to Finn getting on the Falcon and the Star Destroyer smashing into the planet
• Rey falls and “dies”
• Finn reacts
• Ben saves Rey

Not saying this is ideal but it does flow better when Rey dies immediately after the duel. It would just suck losing Finn’s reaction

Can we get back on topic and move the Lando debate to another chat?