One more attempt though:
(off-screen) “Long have I waited, the last Skywalker failed my test."
(Cut to Palpatine on-screen)
(back to off-screen) “But now you have come, (on-screen again) Empress Palpatine. You will take the throne. It is your birthright to rule, here. It is in your blood, our blood.”
After today’s episode though… I am 100% confident Sabine will return without Ezra, finding out he escaped on his own. Sabine goes back to Lothal confused and upset, and Ahsoka and her part ways. There will be a time jump and Ahsoka will arrive again when she has a lead on Ezra.
These are NOT the same scene.
#AhoskaTheWhite
Different clothes and her staff. Filoni isn’t that dumb to mess up his own canon.
EDIT: Plus with Filoni being funny about when this scene takes place… I could see it being the closing scene of S1, setting the stage (with more context) for S2 or his movie.
Even simpler but made clearer…
Emperor Palpatine: “Long have I waited, for the strongest to rule, Empress Palpatine. You will take the throne. It is your birthright to rule here. It is in your blood. Our blood.”
I think this could work. Restore the line about her coming home, as Palps could have been hopeful that his bloodline was stronger than the Skywalker’s.
Emperor Palpatine: “Long have I waited, for my grandchild to come home! I never wanted you dead. I only wanted the strongest to rule, Empress Palpatine. You will take the throne. It is your birthright to rule here. It is in your blood. Our blood.”
Ooooo. I like that idea.
Fair enough! I was initially thinking of a way we could help clear up Palpatine changing his target from Kylo to Rey. But then that spawned a whole other idea down the rabbit hole.
Maybe if possible, still try to add a small line in the scene with Palp and Pryde to better clarify that he doesn’t want Rey dead now?
Palp: “…disrupted my plan… come to me on Exegol, General Pryde.”
Pryde: “As I served you in the old wars. I serve you now.”
Palp: “Spare the girl. The Final Order begins. She will come. Her friends will follow.”
Pryde: “Yes, my lord.”
Apologies for the incoming long post, but I was brainstorming and here are some ideas to help better sell Palpatine’s new plan in Ascendant. I think a lot of the original Palpatine lines can be restored and some others can be adjusted very slightly (if the AI voice is possible for Palps). I know this may be a little radical for V4 of this edit, but I think it could warrant a discussion given the new AI breakthroughs and the initial struggle of clearing up Palps plan for this edit:
RESTORE:
CHANGE:
CHANGE:
CHANGE (or potentially REMOVE SCENE):
CHANGE:
CHANGE:
RESTORE:
RESTORE:
Vader’s plan in the OT was never to kill Luke, but to turn him to the dark side for Palpatine, another TROS logic fail. But, I think if these few changes are able to be implemented it would definitely help clear up Palpatine’s plan and allow for some content to be restored.
Palp’s plan:
Kylo:
Rey’s struggle:
I like the line, but the reading seems a little too high-pitched and doesn’t really match his cadence in the rest of the film.
Also, here’s the ancient text line in context. Sounds pretty good! https://drive.google.com/file/d/1au_fzjCMYIkOholtONUhSEokGnu2hqJX/view?usp=share_link
I would nix “She still trained me.”
I’d agree, doesn’t really make sense in that context, does it? At that rate, the beginning of Luke’s next sentence needs to go too. I think it is a good concept, but we should just leave as is.
JEDIT: As much as the final lesson would be nice to include, I think the scene is more personal without it. And Luke’s 3 lessons were why the Jedi needed to end. He went back on that, no need for a lesson three or final lesson. And who knows, Luke may show up in the Rey movie as a force ghost to depart more wisdom, so it likely won’t be the final lesson in canon.
Luke: “What are you most afraid of?”
Rey: “Myself.”
Luke: “Because you’re a Palpatine? Leia struggled with her bloodline too.”
Rey: “She didn’t tell me.”
Luke: “Rey, final lesson, some things are stronger than blood…”
What if it isn’t the “dark” that Leia struggled with, but her bloodline and relation to Vader (which is canon I may add)? I think it makes Luke’s final lesson hit a LOT harder too.
Well, if we are revisiting it yet again, does this read better?
Luke:
“She was quick to learn in our training, but Leia was wary of the shadow that had turned our father. She felt she could better serve the galaxy through diplomacy, as our mother once did. She surrendered her saber to me and said that one day, it would be picked up again, by someone who would finish her journey.”
On the plus side, there is a big gap between sentences in the film. If you think of the scene without the flashback Luke and Rey are just awkwardly staring at Leia’s saber without speaking for a good 30 seconds. Maybe this fixes that LOL 😄
But overall, I love how we have it now and don’t think this is necessary dialogue to include.
I feel adding more to the line is overkill and not needed. Don’t need to turn Luke into Basil Exposition after all!
I think the whole Leia sending Ben away to train with Luke was explained enough as is in TFA and TLJ. Leia wasn’t a Jedi, Luke was. Leia sends Ben to get force help from a Jedi.
JEDIT: Plus, it makes Leia look like an even shittier mom knowing the darkness her son is struggling with and pawning him off on someone else.
I honestly shut Star Wars edits mostly out of my mind when this stuff first started popping up because the possibilities were just too overwhelming.
For the sake of sanity… I think it would be wise for faneditors with pre-existing edits to ONLY revisit ideas that were like 98% completed towards what they wanted it to be, to help give it that extra 2% to complete their vision. And for any new edits, to only rely on AI voices to help implement a greater change elsewhere.
Otherwise, it’ll just be a crapshow where half a movie will be AI dialogue and it will lose the DNA that made it unique.
Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Consume you, it will.
Ahh gotcha. Sorry bout that!
Wasn’t the line: “But Leia felt…” ?
Done!
Wizard
First:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qNb_f7AwetG9cXlU6aFv3A3gIrOu6TbK/view?usp=drivesdkSecond:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iprhwpzpLeXs0St1Duk91IN9v4cWOm3a/view?usp=drivesdk
Option 2 sounds a little bit fuller/better to me on my headphones. Option 1 seems to have a slight AM radio-like effect to it.
A mockup of the Force Healing illustration:
That looks incredible! I do wonder if there can be some “>” arrows added on the line to better illustrate the person with his hand on the other is actually sending energy over, not draining it.
I think the family line works for Leia.
Leia tells her she is family.
Palpatine tells her she is family.
Rey has to decide if she chooses light or dark.
Palpatine’s line in the movie:
“They don’t have long. No one is coming to help them. And you are the one who led them here. Strike me down. Take the throne. Reign over the new Empire, and the fleet will be yours. Only you have the power to save them. Refuse, and your new family… dies.”
The longer line about diplomacy is not 100% seamless when baked in and having another real Hamill line right afterward, but sounds very good.
@JarJar, could a few different takes of the longer line help to alleviate this?
Worth cleaning up Rey’s new line when she fights Palpatine at the end?
Palpatine: “A scavenger girl is no match for the power in me!”
Rey: “I… I’m a Jedi.”
Hal:
“V3 is done. I only have a few small updates to my other edits and I am retiring from fanedits for now.”
@RogueLeader:
Innovates the AI line readings using a new method
Hal:
Interesting! That’s awesome.
Also, not sure if I missed the explanation, but how were y’all able to substantially improve the quailty of the AI voices pretty much overnight from V3 being released?
