Hal did confirm he will be releasing wider-canon cuts for Revenge and Phantom. I believe Revenge is up next and then Phantom as @TMWNN is working on an improved color correction and some effects fixes that Hal intends to use in the next version of his edit.
The fact that Disney had the whole OG cast involved and did not write one scene where they are all together will forever torment me until the day where I am one with the force.
Looking back, it appears that @Nev said the first 2 paragraphs are locked in for him, so I would recommend this as the final crawl for the next version.
The only issues I see with the current paragraph 3 is that we need to better establish why the Resistance exists. Their goal in the movie isn’t really to find Luke, but they are the Rebels 2.0 because JJ needed Empire vs Rebels again. I took paragraph 3 from the existing edit and the ideas in the thread to make an updated version.
Eagerly awaiting an update on this project as well. I’m curious to see how we can use some of the AI line suggestions that were made to finalize this edit!
EPISODE VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS
It is a time of despair.
Luke Skywalker, sworn
to rebuild the legendary
Jedi Order, has vanished.
With the Jedi now facing
extinction, agents of the
evil FIRST ORDER have
risen from the shadows
of an Imperial fortress
to claim supremacy over
countless worlds beyond
the fragile New Republic.
A covert RESISTANCE,
secretly armed by the
Senate to counter this
emerging threat, has found
a clue to the last Jedi’s
whereabouts, determined to
restore the light of hope
to the darkening stars…
FYI:
Just wanted to let anyone know that I’m planning to watch season 2 of Andor one episode per week despite the release schedule, so I won’t be in this thread until July 9th.
There is another version of this likely coming, just need to give it some time.
I think it’d be silly for me to dedicate any time to this until after we see Andor Season 2, but there may be enough to do at that point.
Hal coming back to this thread:
Would you be able to do textless versions for the movies?
I’d need VII-IX, Rogue One and Solo in a 2:3 format.
I’d love to use these on my Plex server and have had zero luck finding good textless art for the above in the 2004 style. I’d even argue your versions look better than the ones you found.
Maybe a remake for those ones?
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Will do! Thanks!
Is it really a bump in this thread without a new crawl rewrite? 😄
The Last Jedi establishes that Luke did have his own Jedi Academy. I think it is stronger for Luke’s character if it is clearly established that he did bring back the Jedi Order, but it was destroyed. If this was the case, I feel his story arc in The Last Jedi would have been responded to better: Luke did bring the Jedi Order back, it all went to shit, so he went into exile. Instead of it seeming like he only had a few students.
However, I could see people complaining how Order 66 part 2 was in a crawl instead of the movie itself.
“I guess it is time, for the Jedi Order to end.”
EPISODE VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS
It is a time of despair.
The legendary Jedi Order
has been slaughtered.
Luke Skywalker is missing.
Emboldened by the Jedi’s
absence, agents of the
evil FIRST ORDER have
risen from the shadows
of an Imperial fortress
to claim supremacy over
countless worlds beyond
the fragile New Republic.
Wary to condone any action
that could lead to war,
the Senate has secretly
commissioned the pilots
of a brave RESISTANCE
to find the last Jedi and
restore the light of hope
to the darkening stars…
Would you be able to do textless versions for the movies?
I’d need VII-IX, Rogue One and Solo in a 2:3 format.
I’d love to use these on my Plex server and have had zero luck finding good textless art for the above in the 2004 style. I’d even argue your versions look better than the ones you found.
Maybe a remake for those ones?
Gotcha!
Grabbing it now. Didn’t realize only the larger encode was affected. I thought you had to rerender all of them which is why I was making some last minute suggestions.
All good though! Happy to have this edit. Thanks again for all the work that you do!
I enjoyed the new maximalist AOTC. The upscaled footage looks much better than before, and putting the younglings scene in didn’t bother me. I did see 2 small errors during my watch.
The black bars in the kiss scene are light black and when it transitions to Kamino they turn back to dark black. You can also see the transition swipe in the black bars. It’s a lot more noticeable watching it compared to the picture below.
In this scene there’s a thin white stripe that appears for a few seconds.
Has this been reissued yet?
Maybe its not my place to say this but I feel like maybe y’all should hop off Hal. He’s voiced that he wants to be done with the Prequels. The fact that he’s made all these alternate versions of his edits is a courtesy. He doesn’t really owe anything, it’s his own passion project made mostly for his enjoyment. While I’m the last one to criticize someone for making suggestions to other editors (especially because the editor might want and like feedback), with how much Hal has voiced wanting to move on, at this point, make your own (like I will eventually, even if it takes eons lol).
Fully understandable!
I believe he is reissuing Episode II to fix a technical glitch so I figured I ask before he locks it in. He has the “wider-canon” cuts of TPM and ROTS coming still, which will be my preferred versions when released (I like the OG titles).
I’ve been around since V2 or V3 of his prequel edits. It’s come a long way for sure… but after a while, I’m sure it feels like people nagging to change a Krayt Dragon yell for each version because of reasons I guess. We all owe Hal a great debt for these, especially since it is all a labor of love with no rewards except the glory. Gotta put it to bed at some point!
All good Hal! Appreciate your efforts as always!
Looking forward to ROTS, and hopefully @TGWNN to finish his TPM fixes for you to include in the wider-canon cut.
That’s been my biggest issue with the prequels is Anakin having issues with the Jedi from the beginning and being aware he’s the “Chosen One”.
I think it makes for a better story that he’s not aware of this and why the Jedi are making sure that they help him. They are not “holding him back” like Palpatine suggests, he is supposed to be the “best of them” and they are carefully making sure that is the case.
The first time Anakin should ever know about the prophecy is when Obi-Wan is yelling it to him while he burns to a crisp.
I’d have to prefer GAT’s version, if it were spruced up, personally.
Yeah, I threw it together in like 10 minutes. The audio needs to mesh a little better and maybe cut off a few more frames before it cuts to Anakin sitting down. Maybe a little foley for the garage and some crying sounds for poor Ani and it would be golden.
Up to Hal though! I think it would be nice to include like you said though because it is really the only time Padme gives any feels back to Anakin before the arena scene.
That’s where mine is different. Anakin is more questioning of himself not being able to fix things. He only carries his anger inward, not towards Obi-Wan or the sand people. It is more nuanced, which Padme then picks up on and consoles him about it.
The nice bookend is then Anakin promising to his mother that he wasn’t strong enough and he won’t fail again.
It’s funny how including only that first snippet and the aftermath, plus the words to his mother, help reframe that Anakin thinks he is a failure as a Jedi and he blames himself for being weak, not everyone else for holding him back.
Then with Hal’s Episode III edit, Anakin’s fall comes about more from a distrust of the Jedi holding things back from him. Here Anakin is thinking the Jedi are teaching him all these things and then it turns out, or at least he is led to believe, that the Jedi fear him and are holding him back which causes him to go off the rails.
I don’t want to sidetrack Hal’s thread though if he doesn’t plan on adding any of the garage scene back. I did go through the edit again and this would be the logical ordering for it:
Carrying Shimi -> Garage -> Obi’s Message -> Funeral / Viewing Message
In Attack of the Clones, after receiving Obi-Wan’s message and speaking with Mace Windu from Tatooine… Anakin and Padmé just steal C-3P0 from the Lars family and leave without notice.
Not sure how exactly the ads generate revenue, clicks or just them paying to exist on the site, but AdBlock add-ins are awesome and I haven’t seen one since it was added to the site 😬
True, I just thought a more slimmed down version could help the relationship a little more in the movie. It is pretty redundant though.
Hey Hal, another suggestion to add to along with JarJar’s since you are hopefully making some small tweaks/fixes on the wider-canon Episode II cut, I mocked up a shortened version of the infamous garage scene that I think would be nice to add in. Basically, it removes the cringey whining lines and red flags about slaughtering a village, but it still keeps Anakin confiding in Padme that he isn’t strong enough as a Jedi and her comforting him afterwards.
It was pretty quick to mock up and I just recycled some music from before with Anakin and Padme. If anything, it maybe needs a little bit of foley added for the garage.
What i can’t get over is the housing moving me into an apartment complex knowing this woman is nuts and makes false complaints and they’ve moved her around but won’t throw her out of the neighborhood. She made false noise complaints to them all last summer and the did not listen because she is a crank, so she calls cops on me when I’m asleep in bed.
And they had the audacity to move me here from my comfortable apartment down the way and lie and say my new neighbors were nice.
They put me in a situation where i can’t live or make any noise. They take my rent money more than i can afford every single month, they hardly seem to care.
Like they don’t care their own irresponsible movers stole important documents of mine, stole and committed theft of expensive items and destroyed valuables. As well as family heirlooms.
I’m ranting i know. But i condemn the entire lot of fools and condo board who bought this neighborhood. Ever since sketchy people work for them come at all hours and the things they allegedly fix they make worse, construction is always going on. The so-called landscaper’s landscape like criminals, i used to landscape i now how to do it properly. You don’t mow a lawn with a weedwhacker.
The people who paint don’t know how to paint looks like someone did it with a blindfold on. They come to fix your doors and windows give you no new screens, and make sure your door closes worse than did before you complained. And not only is your shower impossible to turn on its impossible to turn off, and leaks water into the hallway if you don’t put beach towels or spa size towels in front of it.
The last year has been a nightmare.
I’m determined to somehow hack out an existence even in the mist of high inflation and tariffs. And nothing in the world being constant anymore or making a lick of sense.
Not sure if you live in the United States or not, but if so, I’d suggest doing some research into the “Fair Housing Act” as well as filing complaints. Landlords or management companies do not have a legal right to forcibly move you from your residence if you are in good financial standing based upon fraudulent complains from one troublesome neighbor. They would need multiple complaints from several neighbors as well as concrete proof of a problem to even begin discussions of relocating or termination of a rental. It sounds like you have a very overbearing situation, and they would not have any legal footing to stand on if you threaten it.
I just watched this again today. I’m not sure if Spence will ever consider a V4 of this. But here is my feedback:
As mentioned above, there is a technical glitch at 1:29:49.
Another technical thing that is a bigger undertaking… replace the source files with HQ rips from the 4K release. Colors are much better and this will help greatly with artifacts and crushed blacks from the Disney+ rip
The musical cue when Leia is taken is a bit overdone. Maybe silence is better here? Some quieter echoey stings perhaps?
There needs to be some explanation as to WHY Vader doesn’t continue pursuing Kenobi after their first fight. An AI line could help here, but what the reason is, I’m not sure. Maybe an AI line for a Stormtrooper stating that Reva has Leia and then Vader says something like: “Kenobi will come back to us.”
Palpatine. This scene is essential to explain why Vader stops hunting Obi-Wan. It should go between the final Leia goodbye scene and the scene of Obi-Wan packing up to go meet Luke.
Not sure if this has been posted, but in the current version it goes completely black at 1:29:49 for about half a second.
I threw together a quick poster for my Plex server, figured I’d share!
See Threepio in the prequels speaks with a Jamaican accent for the prequels and only adopts the fussy butler persona after his memory is wiped in Episode 3 when his memory is wiped again in episode 9 the accent comes back.
This should be in the best edit ideas thread.
I threw together a quick poster for my Plex server, figured I’d share!
There are far too many of you wasting your time and expertise on resurrecting a dead Sith because you lack the will to simply omit him from episode 9. The judgement on this is as poor as the original tRoS movie was.
