GoodMusician

you guys should all refresh your index cookies again.

I've updated it. Every link should work and send you directly to the correct files.

If something doesn't have a link, then it's not up yet.

 I'm reworking TLW.

Gotta have patients. I haven't so much as uploaded any of these sets in ...months...maybe a year. The fact you all are getting them at all right now should be a surprise and delight..

I have to redo them because I was able to figure out what I did wrong last time.

The IOA tracks were stereo recordings from mono speakers. I didn't realize it right away, but when I did, I went back and recorded agasin from the other speakers and once layered together, they create a very very nice sounding mix. So I need to remix that all

I haven't uploaded JP3 up yet. Hense why they show as file not found.

I'm uploading now.

You don't see what posted?

If you have cookies of the old index, you'll have to refresh them because it'll still show up as the old index But it's there.

I havn't posted any of the star wars nor have I said I would yet.

GoodMusician said:

Guys, keep a look out here:

 

http://www.pietersmods.s31clan.com/GoodMusician/index.html

 

that's where I'll be posting it

Unless space runs out, then I'll have to get back with heileman about uploading it

 

thanks

What I posted One page ago. 

This Index has everything I uploaded and will soon have more as I get more up.

-B

You sound like me lol

I have all three discs up, the index doesn't show if but if you change the link to 2 or 1 instead of 3, you'll find them

I'll update the index when I get up. I'm so tired lol

because it's been changed about 4 times...try the link I just posted lol

As for JP... Disc 1 is the score edited to how its heard in the film.

Disc 2 is extas... if you really want disc 1 I can upload it, but I'll definately get disc 2 up

I could reupload them. I only reuploaded Disc 3 because I redid it.

Disc 3 has mostly everything ...Disc 2 would be the only thing with extras but I can reupload them

I've been meaning to get more stuff up

I'm nearly finish with Indiana Jones: Temple of DOom, and Raiders of the Lost Ark

good question... the Tomlinson mixes were the best things... they still existed in about half of the cues for ESB, so they simply used those...

As for the music mixes for the films themselves, not the music only masters, no idea...

Guys, keep a look out here:

http://www.pietersmods.s31clan.com/GoodMusician/index.html

that's where I'll be posting it

Unless space runs out, then I'll have to get back with heileman about uploading it

thanks

hey adywan, it's been a while, are we working on the music yet (as in each ascene as you go along) or are you waiting until the end?

Just seeing if I can be of help yet  heh

Yea... I actaully had almost forgotten... I'd moved on a bit because GGCTUK had been doing such a great job...I've been hearing a lot of great edits around these days too... I :sniff: feel... like I'm no longer needed lol...

I have gotten my FTP updated recently, so I can start posting things on it again.

I PROMISE I'll get these up as soon as I can guys. Thanks for being patient. I just do want them to be "the best."

Holy Crap...G E i was inspired to came back to this forum because I ran into the trailer you uploaded becuase I'm already subscribed to you and you put out a notice. I had stepped away because of life and had all but lost a great deal of excitement and just figured I'd come back at a latter time.

Then I saw Ady's trailer and was like "shit! I've obviously missed a lot!"

If you're looking for an accolade I can think of none greater. And yea, the aspect ratio throws me, but Ihave issues with it all the tim with my uploads...

a more radical cut? Oh you mean like completely restructuring the films? Yea... I've seen some... I guess I'm just the kind of guy who prefers something a little more...cinematic.

Oh you're talking about the lost Joseph Williams Jabba the Hut source music... yea... that's on that film... I ripped from it once... it's how I got some of the material for Lapti Nek when I recretead that.

You're the second person to ask me that. I had honestly never intended to. But I mean, if people like it enough, I could always go back and redo it again...

In a way, I'm posting this because I want to spread the ideas I'd had about editing Episode III.

Many feel that the prequel trilogies are below par, which in a way they are, but at the same time, there's still a lot that can be done with them... and honestly should be without sacrificing the films to the hutts gods. lol

I wasn't truly planning on putting these things here... so I never really looked as deeply as you all are so acustomed to when it comes to these (a la Adywan's edits).

Frankly I hated the voices too. The videos did serve a duel purpose though, to show off how the music was meant to be in the film, and then also satisfy my personal curiosity for editing the sequences down.

So it becomes kinda uneventful when people post these threads here becuase there are so damned many… but I figured I should add to this list because of how much people online have liked my sets.

Anyway… Lets preface this with the reason for my edits.

I personally had never seen the OT of Star Wars until the Special Editions… I mean,I had them on VHS, but I never watched it. Then the SE’s came out and I saw what became Episode IV in theatres opening night (stepfather won tickets). I remember the highlight of the night being that they had the poster for “The Lost World: Jurassic Park” in the lobby lol…

Anyway… the movie was amazing. I remember really liking it.

Fast forward to when the PT started. I remember watching the first ever TV mega trailer for Episode I and being so stoked. I HAD to see it.

I bought the album to Episode I immediately and half the books and toys that were available. I was a HUGE fan. My friends and I would use the toys at the YMCA and during play time just make up our own stories with the Toys.
 

Anyway… I preface it with this to say… I loved Episode I. I still love Episode I.

Frankly, I feel Episode I was a masterpiece. The way it was shot, the way it was done… there is very little I didn’t like. Granted… it had moments that looking back I go “really?” but not many. It was so artistic…which to me was one reason I loved it so.

Now, lets move on to Episode II. Things have changed. The script was bad… and the film was cut back denaturing the more elegent and touching moments. We loose a sense of who the characters are as they seem to exist in this vacuume.

Episode III was a mass improvement on Episode II but I remember before it came out having debates with friends about seeing Vader. My friends were soooo excited about Seeing vader.

I wasn’t.

I felt that it seemed to bely the reality that was portrayed in Episode V and VI… the biggest plot twists in Cinema history are just painted over in broad strokes… and I wasn’t pleased.

I liked the film… but I wasn’t pleased with it.
 

So I decided to edit my own version…removing any mention of Anakin as Vader… returning the mystery. Cutting back on the birth to show only Luke. Then I further changed it by adding Qui-Gon to the film… and so on.

I felt that Vader, like Dooku and Grevious could be a bad guy that seemed to appear out of the void. Who was the big bad guy of the OT and we’re left asking “where’d he come from?” and then suddenly… it all makes sense… we’re hit with this…oooOoo! moment …preserving the same feeling, and perhaps even expanding upon it by this.

I also resolved to cut back on extranious moments. THings that didn’t need to be said or seen or done.
 

This is the pieces, the big ones, to my Episode III edit… how I felt it should have been:

(I recommend watching these all in HD)
 

Landing in the Hangar Bay - Death of Dooku

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlQG7f68l48

Edits:

1. The video starts out with the proper syncing of the music used moment earlier in the film version.
2. The complete “General Grevious” cue is reinstated.
3. Cut the Battle droids entering the hangar.
4. “The Elevator Sequence” music is synced (the alternate percussive track to be precise)
5. Obi-Wan and Anakin exiting the elevator to see Palpatine is shortened as it was way too long.
6. Cut Obi-Wan and Anakin’s lines about “taking him together”
7. Removed most of Dooku’s back flip.
8. Reinstated a shot of Dooku igniting his saber and changing it’s placement.
9. Re-syncing the music
10. Cut Palpatines preposterious “yeah!”
11. Shortened the shot of Anakin swiping at Dooku to make it more abrupt
12. Cut the sequence so that Obi-Wan falling and Dooku pulling the platform down were faster
13. Resynced the music
14. Added Anakin screaming after the “don’t use them” line to show that he’s let go.
15. Make it seem like Anakin has lost it and kills Dooku
16. Cut the conversation of Anakin and Palpatine to make it seem like Palpatine was more insistent on changing how Anakin feels.
17. Put Palpatines line over the tusken raider SFX
18. cut a preposterous amount of Anakin sitting next to Obi-Wan
19. Added music to the battle and near fall from orbit
20. Cut slightly to make the video fit the new music.
21. Made it seem like Obi-Wan was still unconscious until after they fly out of the elevator shaft.</span>
     

General Grevious Flees

(This is pretty much the same sequence but I added the music which to me changes it so much that I would consider this as being very similar to how I’d do it)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-YwXDpcLDM
 

Dialogue with Mace - I am the Senate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1nf0swhT_I

Changes:

1. Omission of “[I Think] he is a sith lord.” You just stated he was, why say “I think?”
2. I changed the sequence of shots as the convoy flys away (trying to fix continuity of shadow/placement/ etc.)
3. Moved Anakin flying ship to save Palpatine latter and added a new establishing shot
4. Recut the first few shots of the fight.
5. Moved Anakin leaving the Jedi temple (rather tan arriving at the Senate offices building) here
6. Moved Anakin arriving to the senate offices a bit latter.
7. Removed Anakin running through the hall with the overly dramatic music for him simply skipping through it
8. Cut some breif moments of Sidious saying “Help me!” and such during his fight with mace (better fits the NEW music).
9. Sped up the actual attack on Mace by Anakin by removing Palpatines shot (leaving line layered in) and cutting a bit latter to anakin cutting his hand off.</span>

Lament (There is one error where I leave in “Vader” by accident)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwJLaXftzNg
 

Most of these are subtle edits-

1. Removal of the naming of Vader
2. Cut to the battle on Kashykk and shortened the establishing of this battle (Redid Music)
3. Cut a few moments of Obi-Wan being shot at.
4. Show Obi-Wan and the animal falling but not hitting water, making it seem for the moment they have the same demise as the rest of the Jedi.
5. Added more SFX to Plo-Koon exploding
6. Rebuilt the SFX/Music for the next Jedi’s death to continue the music.
7. Extended the “Lament” sequence by placing Anakin entering the Jedi Temple where it was originally (within the Lament).
8. Rebuilt the sfx/music
9. Replaced the original music of Bail leaving the Jedi Temple.
10. Rebuilt the SFX for the boy Jedi fighting to escape</span>
     

Obi-Wan talks to Padme about Anakin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJJICINf9zg

A Partial List of the edits:

1. New Establishing Shot of Padme’s Residence
2. New cut from Obi-Wan leaving Padme’s Residence to Padme sitting in grief.
3. Wipe to Padme leaving Courescant rather than a cut to Anakin.
4. More time is shown passing after Padme leaves Coruscant to Mustafar (an outer rim planet which in the film takes a matter of moments)
5. Replacing a computer screen showing Padme arriving to Mustafar
6. Cut back to Coruscant after we see Anakin.
7. The Yoda/Sidious conversation is streamlined to remove Vader but also to highten tension.
8. Padme’s Landing on Mustafar is SEVERELY cut short. Lucas loved shots of ships landing way too much.</span>
    

Padme and Anakin Talk on Mustafar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWJKyHk6JxE

Edits

1. I replace the shot of Anakin after Padme says “He wants to help you” so Anakin isn’t seen smiling like a teenager
2. I quit cut from Padme falling, to Obi Wan looking, then to Anakin’s line rather than having a needless shot of Padme lying there for 10 seconds.
3. The Conversation between Obi-Wan and Anakin is changed slightly. Anakin responds to Obi-Wan being for democracy that he is “[his] enemy.”
4. Cut the line “Only a sith deals in absolutes” as it’s an oxymoron.</span>
    

Battle of the Heroes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0fAqbw4p0Q

Here I removed a lot and edited a lot. Also worth note is that I fully rebuilt almost a lot of the sfx.

1. Cut extraneous and duplicate shots of Obi-Wan and Anakin fighting. In the film, they do the same moves THREE TIMES, from THREE angles, played one after another. If you look Closely in the real film, Padme dissapears after the first run. I fix this by cutting it down to one time.
2. I began “Battle of the Heroes” with the choir from later pitch shifted, edited, and layered over the film music.
3. I remove the shot of Anakin kicking Obi-Wan as it’s a near duplicate of one later and it kills the tension.
4. Cut back to Yoda and Sidious
5. I cut back to Obi-Wan and Anakin, removing some extraneous moments.
6. I link up the sequence of them in the control room
7. I replace the shot of Anakin destroying the console with a similar shot of him doing the same latter.
8. Anakin kicks Obi-Wan near the face and we cut faster back to Yoda and Sidious
9. Yoda Evading the Senate chairs is re-edited to strengthen tension of Yoda in peril.
10. Cut to Obi-Wan and Anakin on the heat dissipator with new layered music.
11. Cut back to Yoda and Sidious
12. Made the shot of yodas cape landing on the pole more important.
13. Cut to Anakin and Obi-Wan fighting further.
14. Allowed the tension to dissipate slightly by adding a new establishing shot of the senate and cutting the Vader line.
15. Cut most of Yoda in the tunnel and synced up what was used.
16. Cut back to Mustafar quicker with new establishing shot.
17. Cut some extraneous lava explosion shots and cut to the action faster.
18. Synced the arm falling in the lava to the actual battle in the lava flow.
19. Cut some of the extra moments of the arm falling over the clif and Anakin and Obi-Wan jumping to safety on the pads.
20. Edited some of the conversation to truly make Anakin seem Evil.
21. Cut the part of the line that was “[From my point of view] The Jedi Are Evil!” As it was obviously his point of view.
22. Cut to them fighting again faster
23. Cut most of the flip Obi-Wan makes (we see it from three angles again)
24. Cut most of Anakin jumping and some beats of nothing to make it faster

25. Changed the sequence of the conversation (Kept most of Obi-Wan’s lines together)
26. Made the exchange harder with “I love you”/ “I hate you”
27. Made it seem this final line made Obi-Wan leave Anakin.</span>
     

Finale

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiQlDHxIJxY

1. Cut Padme regaining consciousness and had her simply moan to make it seem like she was more hurt.
2. Added a new shot of the skiff leaving Mustafar and pull out of an establishing shot.
3. Flipped the shot of Obi-Wan in the skiff thinking to how it was theatrically
4. Cut to the asteroid
5. Minimized the robots converastion to simply that she’s dying.
6. Let some time pass by having Yoda go to meditate.

Meditation Sequence:

1. Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon making the pact that Anakin must be trained
2. Yoda nearly conversing with Qui-Gon in a way through this.
3. Jump to Anakin in the future
4. Showing that Yoda knows about the conversation Obi-Wan and Anakin had and how Anakin died.
5. Yoda and Qui-Gon converse about the profesy.
6. Yoda see’s Padme dying/ That Anakin is alive/ and that there is a “New Hope”
   –
7. Cut to Yoda being interrupted.
8. Yoda’s eyes open slowly as Qui-Gon fades
9. Move to the birth.
10. Cut all of Anakin being rescued.
11. Show only birth of Luke
12. Show that some time could have passed for Leah’s birth
13. Padme speaks the line that Luke remembers for the rest of his life.
14. Replace the music.
15. Various new cuts of reactions.
16. Iris in on Padme’s face to show the arrival at Naboo.
17. Funeral sequence re-edited to show mourners in sequence (some errors here in the cuts)
18. Iris in on the gift Anakin gave Padme and move to Alderan.
19. Rebuilt the sfx/music
20. Most of the Conversation is cut and is now present on Alderan.
21. Some small seconds are cut in Yoda and Obi-Wan’s conversation to stream line it.
22. Iris from 3P0 to the first shot of Episode IV
23. Move to the finale as seen in the film.</span>

Now this spans pretty much the whole film… so you can kinda fill in the spaces…

Hope you guys enjoy it as much as I did making it! I learned so much!

This DVD with the isolated ROTJ score isn't an official print is it?

I'm sorry Iv'e dissapeared guys... things come and go and stuff.

I do have some news, I'm still working on the set...and plan to send some over to a friend for some tinkering and hopefully a soon release.

I had to step away because of life things and time and computer issues... but I'm wanting to get back and finish this set... I got pretty far and I'd hate to just leave it almsot done.

To those of you who are Jurassic Park fans though, I've completed my score edit of that. I did one years ago which, ironically, if you look anywhere online, My edit is the one you will find. It started as a three disc set and is usually cut down to a two disc set (disc 1 and 3 are nearly identical except 3 is the "complete" score and 1 is the score as heard in the film).

Anyway, I used the conductors score to replace missing moments and to fix certain cues... I have it up now...

But I'm gonna try to get back into this soon

I had to step away guys but seeing that the trailer has now been posted, I've been drawn back! It looks...Amazing Ady...Absolutely amazing...

I'm not sure if I'm needed anymore... if my thread with the list of improvements is needed, but if you need aynthing ady, let me know...

I would ask that if you decide to remix the music... when you go to do that... maybe pen me a quick letter... there's a lot I can tell you about where to go to get what...and for what reasons. The SE will be your undoing if you simply cut and paste it into the film as it's horribly wrong.

Great job so far man...great job

Sounds like a Bumpter sticker campaign lol

Agreed.... he and I talked and perhaps we may team up on some of this ;-)

Its cool...  no issues.

A little update. It took me until TODAY to fix "Duel of the Fates (Unused)" Its still not PERFECT... but damn it's better than what I had lol

Things will move along a lot faster. That one track was taking a lot of time.

Imagine my surprise...and THEIR surprise when I say "I made that. The artwork is made by so and so, and the tracks are edited this way...I made that!" lol

oh well... It's my own fault in a way. I stepped out of the fandom a couple times after I made the sets and stopped patroling Ebay...

lol... being a little over dramatic aren't we?

Look...I'm not gonna play this game that your playing.

I've worked too long and too hard on making these sets. I made my Phantom Menace set some...5-6 years ago... and it was the most radical thing to have EVER come from the fandom in that respect. A complete reconstruction of the score including unused music and alternate takes. No where in the history of Star Wars had a fan done that...

Then I find my sets for sale on Ebay... and people contacting me trying to get me to buy it from them...Even still I have people contacting me saying "I found this set! You should get it!" and then I have to argue that it's MY set... that I made it... And I know this because of the track titles, the way it's set up... even with some omissions made, it's still the set I made.

And then you have people who come along and used my research, which mind you is exactly what it was... and then pilaged it and made a name for theirselves in the community.

I'm sorry if it's shitty of me to get angry over that but I do. When you have to dig through 36 Gig of badly compressed MP3 files, sfx, video game dialogue, and all the rest... and FIND everything possible... and not make a cent off of it... but put it out there for everyone becuase it is EVERYONES music...

Yea, I think I have a right to get pissed when people sell my sets... try to sell ME my sets... or use my research to get a big name in the star wars fandom.

I don't mind when people use the sets to do what they want... change music in their games, or make their own "film" edits or what have you. It was meant to be a resource...

But when it becomes "I'm gonna take your set, duplicate it almost exactly, and make a name for myself!" Yea... that pisses me off.

I'm interested in your sets and frankly would love to have them but I havn't had the time. With "melty" as we've not called it, I havn't been able to contact you about downloading them.

I just think it's kinda shitty to pop into someone elses thread and talk and advertise your own work like that...

I hold no hard feelings and frankly would love to hear what you've done...

I'm just being honest here.