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#305279
Topic
Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/305279/action/topic#305279
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You inspired me to check something out.

Your movement of the entering of the Jedi Temple actually coincides with an omission in the score.

If you compare the film to the cue "Lament," that EXACT placement is where a pretty hefty section is omitted.

I tried fooling with it myself to see if I could emulate what you've done and you know what I found, the movement of the entering of the Jedi Temple nearly perfectly fits that omitted moment, and then the return to Kashyyk and the music there is exactly how it should be.

Only problem is, the music doesn't quite feel right which may partially by why its changed in its placement.

The other thing is that there are obviously two different performances of the same cue. Lament on the album omits a segment and at first I thought it was an edit, but I'm noticing that the whole performance starting at that omitted moment seems to be slower on the album than in the film.

but anyways... I'm sure you've noticed the omission of the score... but anyways, thought I'd chime in.
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#305243
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/305243/action/topic#305243
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Originally posted by: adywan
Well for that scene the mix was rebuilt from the ground up. Only the original center channel remains from the 2004 5.1 mix. I used the soundtrack Cd for the music. I was also able to enhance the soundtrack CD by using the 24-bit crystalizer that is part of the mixer of my X-FI fatality soundcard. I had to record the whole soundtrack by using "what you hear" because unfortunately it can only be used for listening to the audio and not able to use it as a filter on existing tracks but it has given it a slight sparkle to the mix. Most people probably won't even be able to hear the difference. To give the music a little more clarity i also overlayed the score to the original DVD mix L&R channels at a low volume with high frequencies enhanced by the equalizer.
Originally posted by: GoodMusician
Also... I noticed that the sound warbles in and out of tune... it's driving me crazy... do you all know why this is?

Is this on my clip? can you explain a little more?

Well its all going great at the moment. Only a few shots left now. I've just finished all the hologram shots for the rebel control room table during the battle that had plagued me for months. They all just suddenly fell into place after having the X-mas break so i'm well chuffed. If all goes according to plan you should see the XVID & DVD-5 barebones appear within the next couple of weeks with the DVD-9 & the NTSC versions appearing a few weeks after (if not sooner)

Happy New year


Well, as you can tell, I have reaaaallly sensitive ears. I can hear the changes you made in the clarity. Being an instrumentalist and being both an audio-phile and williams enthusiast, I could tell IMMEDIATELY how much clearer this was. I've been trying to do it myself... and yes, I'm very familiar with the "record as you go" method hehe...

I might have to test my sound cards abilits for that too although there is a slight loss through the analog ... oh well.

Anyways, What I meant about the warble isn't really like... profound... but there are certain moments where certain pitches don't seem right...

Like after the string shuffle... at about 4 seconds, the pitch is almost a half step off..

wait...

Hang on...

Are these clips in NTSC or PAL? If it's in PAL than that explains the difference.

And out of curiosity, do you guys have the Lucas Sound Effects Library?

I really like the edits your doing, but I think they could be tweaked just slightly more.

Like, the opening to the Mos Eisley is great and all, but after the speeder speeds away, all that's left is music. If they're entering a huge city, you should be hearing more than just the non-digetic music... hell, you could put some of the Episode I digetic music in, or even just put some city sfx crowd noises, things of that nature.

Also, you mentioned this is in 5.1, this is obviously a down mix right? Will the 5.1 have a bit more sfx work in it?

I'm curious becuase I have the Lucas SFX library and I also have a rather large library of Star Wars SFX and if they could be put to use, I'd be more than willing to do what I can to help an extrememly worthy project.

edit:

You know, there is one cut I don't like...

As the troopers pass by the table with Han and Chewie, it cuts to chewie, and then Han gives his little talk about needing that money.

Then you cut to them running outside, and then it cuts back inside.

I wonder if it wouldn't be better to place the cut after the cut to chewie, but before Han talks?

Sort of have the troopers pass by, cut to Chewie looking at them, wipe to Luke and Obi-Wan outside talking about selling the speeder.
Then cut to Han telling chewie to get the ship ready or something... I guess that would still be awkward. It's kinda hard to say. Maybe you could insert a shot and then cut to them talking, or even cut them talking at all... just jump to Han leaving and running into Greedo... the fact that he needs the money isn't something he has to state since it becomes obvious in the next moment...


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#305163
Topic
STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/305163/action/topic#305163
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I'm having trouble with a few of those downloads but I'm watching the extra clip and I have to say, the music sounds phenominal! It's so clean and crisp. I've been working to clean up the 2disc release and Mine sounds only slightly better which says a lot about the mix. What did you do?

Also... I noticed that the sound warbles in and out of tune... it's driving me crazy... do you all know why this is?
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#305011
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Help Wanted: Not sure which version of ANH hope I have here
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/305011/action/topic#305011
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Well, there is one cue re-scored yes...

Also "The Little People" should have been playing through the scene as R2 travels through the mountainous terrain and gets caught. It also has a few small edits as well as a few small sync edits in the taking over of the tantive IV

Those are the bigger ones. Also the unused "Trash Compactor/Dianoga" music.
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#304848
Topic
Star Wars Read-Alongs and other exciting audio stuff.........
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/304848/action/topic#304848
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I was wondering what sort of music is used on these...

Do they use music from the film which they are reading about? Does ROTJ include the deleted sequences from the final film like the opening with the force talk between Luke and Vader?

I was curious about hte music to see if there were any unreleased parts or even alternate takes and it might also be worth including in a set with the soundtrack edits I do.

I'd like to help with re-mastering if you'd like... I know that LP rips can be clear but might have pops and tape's will have a great deal of hiss. If you'd like any help, let me know

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#302058
Topic
Is there a 2001 reference in AOTC?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/302058/action/topic#302058
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I know that the original intent for Star Wars was somethign Similar to 2001. The problem was he wasn't Kubrick and didn't have the money and studio so it was very difficult. Things fell away and were streamlined and broken apart.

Even the idea of using a film score was not Lucas'. It was Speilbergs. Lucas originally wanted to use classical music such as Mars from Holtz The Planets and such, similar to how even though 2001 had a score by Alex North, Kubrick only had him compose music because the studio forced him to and he used none of it. Only classical.

But when Lucas heard Williams score he opted for using it.
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#301807
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Ewoks complete project (Completed)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/301807/action/topic#301807
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This may show my own stupidity, but what is missing from the ewoks dvd's currently released?

I don't blame you for being a completeist... I mean, I am with music... down to the last unused timp hit, but lol... just curious.

I actually have never watched the Ewoks cartoons... Is it nostalgia that really drives you or are they good? With Star Wars' track record for bad spin offs, I've been afraid to buy the set and watch them..
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#301697
Topic
Episode 3 - Editing Back in Progress (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/301697/action/topic#301697
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I like the Padme and Anakin edits... a bit rough but nothing that can't be fixed...

I think you should, however, remove that fanfare before the cut to Palpatines office... just start with the "dun" with the subdued music... or maybe find some way to cut to it... maybe place that unused shot of the outside of his office at sunset from the deleted scene or something...

Otherwise kinda cool. I love the subtle editing of the conversation with Anakin.

As far as the actual fight goes I like it... the sound is rough but that can be fixed... the use of Darth Vaders music there is ok... but there are better choices...

I like it though... overall it's good
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#300820
Topic
Info: The Making Of Jurassic Park
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/300820/action/topic#300820
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Hey, got your pm.


Yea, that one with James Earl Jones narrating is on the DVD...

If anyone has it on VHS still, I would only ask if they could transfer the end credits. on the DVD, they cut off the last few seconds... and that's an unused/unreleased cue called "Raptor In the Shed" which then leads into the track most people call "Clever Girl" which IS in the film (although the ending is substituted with tracked music) abut in actuality, these two are one cue... and I wonder if someone who ahs the DVD and the VHS, could compare the last few seconds and see if there is more music than whats on the DVD... if so, I'd love to have it...

otherwise, I don't think there's much point in transfering it.

The feturette on the special other disc is kinda cool too but I don't know them ever putting it on VHS... I never knew it existed till I got the disc...


not much extra music there unfortunately.
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#299903
Topic
Mark Hamill &quot;ready to evacuate&quot; his Malibu home.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/299903/action/topic#299903
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I just imagine someone from this forum hearing this and saying

"But if the wind could blow the fire towards Malibu... that would lead it to his... home..."

Them driving up to his house, jumping out of their convertible

Running up to the front of whats left of his house...

"Mark?! Mark Hamil!"

::shot of his badly charred body lying outside of door::

They look away, wind blowing their hair...

::music swells::

::cut to Lucas Ranch::
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#299585
Topic
Star Wars Prequels/Original Trilogy: The Complete Scores (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/299585/action/topic#299585
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got the pm...

as for the episode II... things came up.

I decided to try something else for the moment.

I found that I can, quite easily, remix the A New Hope files and make them sound really clear and crisp... almost as if they were recorded today... no more of that 1970's icky tape sound lol

Also, I'm collecting all the alternate takes that have leaked over the years and have been released by accident. I'll let you all know how that comes.
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#299370
Topic
Humourous Rant about Lucas on MSNBC
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/299370/action/topic#299370
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I still maintain that the PT lost a lot in the editing room. Far too much to editing. all so the movies could be shorter. I'd pay to see the movies (especially AOTC) 30 minutes longer with the material that should be in there, back in, and maybe some of the unnecessary material cut out... like a bit of the fighting on Geonosis.

The difference between Lucas 70's and Lucas 00's is two big people who crowded his vision: Ben Burtt (a SOUND designer) and Rick McCallum.