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#254408
Topic
George Lucas interview - 29th October 1979
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254408/action/topic#254408
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The only "evidence" we have is Lucas says he was thinking about numbering the movie but decided not to for the initial release. It's first hand testimony. Obviousy there is further evidence that he thought of it at some point, because he ultimatey did retitle it Episode IV A New Hope before Empire came out.

The lack of -further- supporting evidence certainly doesn't disprove it.

Lucas was saying that both he and the studio had decided that it would confuse the audience to number them for the initial release.

I imagine it going a little something like this:

Lucas: I think we should subtitle this thing: Episode IV A New Hope...

Executive: Are you crazy? Nobody will understand that!

Lucas: You have a point. Note to self: destroy all evidence that I ever thought of this.
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#254380
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Jedi as ninja
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254380/action/topic#254380
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I really don't see how you could say that. The only thing Ben said was that they were the guardians of peace and justice in the old Republic.

The Prequels showed how they acted as diplomats, being sent in to peacefully "settle" conflicts. Then they show how they were perverted into generals leading attacks of all things. We see how they related to the Goverment much more specifically, that they had a council, how the council operated. We get glimpses into how they view politics through Obi-Wan and Anakin's conversations in Episode II and III.

I just don't see how you could even say Obi-Wan told us more about them in that hut dialogue.
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#254307
Topic
Jedi as ninja
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254307/action/topic#254307
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Well I think once you see how they lost in the end (well for the most part) the question becomes "why did they lose" and as you dig deeper into that line of thinking, you can compare how Obi-Wan and Yoda act in the classic trilogy.

One of the things I really admire about Star Wars is how little it holds your hand on these things. Instead of telling you what to conclude, it lets you figure out your own perspective.

I think that's one of the big reasons people tend to talk about Star Wars as much as we do. Because there is so much room for interpretation that hearing other points of view can become almost addicting.
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#254277
Topic
George Lucas interview - 29th October 1979
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254277/action/topic#254277
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Reading comprehension? He says the "situation" between Luke and Vader will be resolved.

Vader turning back to the good side and joining forces with Luke resolves their situation.
He is saying that the actual concept of the third trilogy itself, not its plot or any specifics but the actual notion of the possibility of them existing in any form was a fabrication of the media. Clearly its not though. I think this boils down to it feeling that way to Lucas since he never had any real plans or attachment to the third trilogy, and in Bantha Tracks May 1980 even admits to adding it only because of the success of Star Wars.
See I don't remember him saying all of that. You guys are so bent against Lucas, that you assume your assumptions are the cold hard truth, and it's really pretty ridiculous if you ask me.

I say he meant he never did come up with more story than what we got in the 6 film cycle. That originally the story would have been extended so that Anakin and Luke take a whole trilogy to beat the Emperor once Anakin turns back to the good side.

Sometime during the production or post production of Empire, he decided he woudn't live long enough to make 3 trilogies, so he cut the story down into 6, and he took the final resolution of Anakin and Sidious biting it, and put it on the end of ROTJ.

Therefore, there is no longer any more story to tell in a 3rd trilogy, and the idea that Lucas has 3 more films planned out just simply isn't true.
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#254192
Topic
Star Wars most inconsistent plot point, in my opinion: Star Wars Lethal Alliance game
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254192/action/topic#254192
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With their "hierachy of canon" perhaps it's canon by default, since the films, the scripts, the novelization and the radio drama do not directly contradict that.

I don't know I think it's up to us as fans to personally decide what stuff isn't contradicted that just sucks.

If Lucas puts that scene into the film, then there isn't much we can do, aside from hold on to our previous versions.
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#254181
Topic
Jedi as ninja
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254181/action/topic#254181
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I really don't mind that. To me it's more important that they think about all this stuff just so when we do happen to see all this EU stuff about the thought that went into it, there is an obvious consistency to it that is more or less supported by the films themselves.

One really cool thing about leaving the bulk of the clone wars to the EU and more specifically the new CG animated series in the works, we may see more of this ligthsaber methodology born out in a more visually immediate way.

Another example of extra thought that isn't explained by the films would be things like the battle raging outside during the Anakin/Obi-Wan DuKoo duel in ROTS. Someone actually planned out the entire battle sequence outside, from their goals to the defense manuvers to the final resolution they are heading to. None of that is important to the duel, but it lends more authenticity to everytyhing to have that kind of continuity thought out in advance, rather that just pasting a bunch of ships flying around to suit each individual shot.