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#254528
Topic
Official Star Wars newsletter from 1978
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254528/action/topic#254528
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Clairfying a misunderstanding about things he or people from his own organization said in the past makes him look bad?

There was at least one interview where Lucas was talking about how he was thinking about doing 9 films, and the interviewer offered something to the effect of: You could probably even do 12 films, and Lucas agreed to that possiblity.

Again I don't think Lucas is actually denying talking about doing more than 6, I think he's just saying he never came up with more story than what we now have in the 6 film cycle.
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#254526
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Link to history of OT scripts
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254526/action/topic#254526
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Well it was dubbed with the new title after the initial release, I am not sure how that would indicate wether or not Lucas had thought about dubbing it that for the initial release.

According to him, he was thinking of doing that, but then they decided not to in case they didn't get to make it's sequels. Then as soon as it hit big, the first thing they decided was to implement the numbering system for ANH and it's now eventual sequels.

I personally am not convinced either way either. I admit there is a chance Lucas could be lying about this. My point is there really isn't anything to prove he is lying, so I give him the benefit of the doubt and refuse to accuse him of lying in this instance.
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#254509
Topic
Link to history of OT scripts
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254509/action/topic#254509
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I don't see any reason why we shouldn't trust him when it comes to things he says he was thinking inside his own head.

It's not like he -ever- came close to saying all that crap you just put into his mouth. All he said was the subtitle for Episode IV was something he thought about putting on before initial release, but ended up deciding not to until he re-released it in 79.
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#254501
Topic
McCallum on Jar Jar & Kids before TPM came out
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254501/action/topic#254501
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I dont' see how your perception of me was ever in my hands to begin with.

Look, I do challenge the negativity here towards Lucas, but I do conceed points when they are backed up.

I'm just not going to be jumping on the "Lucas is a lying hack" bandwagon on assumption and innuendo alone.

I don't think that's being unreasonable of me.

Either you guys feel like backing up the wanton negativity or you don't That's enitrely up to you. Certainly you do not have to provide proof for anything you guys say if you don't want to.

I just figured with the way so many of you act like it's a cold hard fact that Lucas is lying, you wouldn't mind supporting those claims.
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#254485
Topic
Jedi as ninja
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254485/action/topic#254485
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They were acting as diplomats in the beginning of TPM, although the Niemodians weren't interested in negotiating.

The fact that Yoda talks about how a Jedi should only use the Force for knowledge and defense -never- attack is indicative that their acting as Generals leading "pre-emptive" attacks on the Separatist as a perversion of the ways of the Jedi.

The link between the Jedi and the Old Republic government wasn't explained in excruciating detail, just more than was ever indicated in the classic trilogy alone.

At least they conveyed a whole lot more to me anyway.
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#254482
Topic
George Lucas interview - 29th October 1979
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254482/action/topic#254482
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I was just asking for proof that Lucas didn't think of the subtitle Episode IV A New Hope before releasing it to the theaters originally.

As for how many movies Lucas "always planned", I am contesting the idea that he was actually talking about how many movie he was talking about doing, and instead suggest that he is talking about how much "story" he originaly came up with.

I believe that when Lucas says that the idea he had anything planned beyond episode 6 was a "media myth", he is talking about the fact that he tied up the whole story he had in mind for 9 films within 6. Instead of having the resolution of Vader and Luke thwarting the Emperor in the 9th episode, he pushed that up to the 6th episode, therefore the story has come full circle, and Lucas hasn't come up with anything beyond that resolution for the story.
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#254478
Topic
George Lucas interview - 29th October 1979
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254478/action/topic#254478
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The idea that Lucas needs proof that he thought of this before he wrote it on the scripts is ridiculous.

You are the one contesting his claim with no evidence to support it beyond the -lack- of evidence for it.

His claim is supported by both his first hand testimony, and the fact that by 1979 it was written on the scripts. Logic dictates he has to think about something before he can write it down somehwere.

Bringing up the scripts isn't proving Lucas wrong.
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#254474
Topic
George Lucas interview - 29th October 1979
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254474/action/topic#254474
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I am just asking for people to back up their claims in a tangible way I can't refute.

Is that so much to ask?

I didn't nay say the scripts, I merely said that all it proves is that Lucas didn't write down "Episode IV A New Hope" on any of them until 1979.

It doesn't prove Lucas hadn't thought of that before that point in time.

So what if i give Lucas the benefit of the doubt? I just personally don't feel right in accusing someone of something based soley on the cynical assumptions of his detractors.
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#254467
Topic
George Lucas interview - 29th October 1979
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254467/action/topic#254467
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I was parodying you guys for assuming Lucas couldn't have thought of the subtitle Episode IV A New Hope, unless he wrote it on all the paperwork he had for the movie. Sorry I should have said ROTJ. Either way it was meant to sound asinine, so I don't see the problem.

I know you don't like me very much, I was just hoping one of you guys would actually produce the "other" Lucas quote that some of you claim contradicts the one Lucas quote presented here so far.

If you want, you can derail this thread into yet another witch trial, but it's a pretty transaprant attempt to avoid adressing my request for proof that Lucas is lying here.