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#128136
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***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/128136/action/topic#128136
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Originally posted by: Wesyeed
I'm having trouble with this pm system.


Wesyeed, PMs are disabled here by default so all you need to do is enable them. Simple process, just go to your profile settings and turn 'Allow Private Messages' on and click the 'Update Profile' button down the bottom of that page. From then on you can PM any user with this icon - http://www.originaltrilogy.com/forum/i/icons/toolbar_privmsg.gif, as it shows who does and does not have PMs enabled.

Hope that helps you in the future.
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#128149
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Lord of the Rings Extended versions
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/128149/action/topic#128149
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
To be honest, I think the extended versions were what turned me off to Lord of the Rings. I was only casually into it to begin with, but I've seen so many different versions and packagings and box sets that I just decided to forget it. And that's really the problem with most movies nowadays is that there are all these "UNRATED!" or "EXTENDED!" versions. Damnit! I just want to buy a movie! I don't want to have to choose door number one or door number two! At least George Lucas waited 20 years before he started throwing out special editions.


I'm with TheSessler, not entirely sure what you are complaining about. I presume you had nothing against the Fullscreen/Widescreen versions so I wont include them in my tally... That leaves two versions, Theatrical Two-Disc and Extended Four-Disc.

It definitely isn't what I would call flooding the market and in fact each release was specifically targeted at different markets. The two-disc was just for casual fans (or collectors who must have everything and who would only complain if they didn't have multiple versions to collect) and the four-disc was for hardcore fans or those very interested in filmmaking. I would have hated it if they didn't release the huge amount of extra material found on the four-disc set, but Joe Average would have also hated paying $30 instead of $15 for each movie just to receive a whole bunch of stuff he doesn't care about.

So Joe Average never had to make any decision, it was two-disc all the way (and likely Fullscreen), cheap, smaller package for the DVD shelf, no disc change and no wait. Did they disservice the fans by having two versions, the second released a couple of months later? I don't think so. For starters they always made it quite public that the second version was coming and what would be on it. Secondly neither version contains any of the same material as the other, different cuts and different extras so collectors both get something to collect, but don't have any of that annoying overlap.

Now, there was a third way to get the movie, in a special collector's box much like Star Wars, Spider-Man and The Matrix has done. These all contain the DVDs available in cheaper packs but in a big box with other material. These packs included books and/or sculptures/busts/bookends, stuff that only hardcore collectors cared about and stuff only hardcore collectors could afford as they were usually twice as much as the regular versions. The LotR sets did include a fifth disc, but most of the material was already covered on the other discs sufficiently, were available separately or most people didn't care about! FotR contained a National Geographic documentary (available separately and seen on TV), TTT contained a disc about Weta Workshop and how they created the Gollum statue in the pack (which if you don't have the statue I'd doubt you'd care) and RotK contained a disc about the LotR Symphony that toured around for a while. None of the discs have much to do with the making of the movie so I don't care about any of them.

But really, two versions for two very different markets. This isn't like all those other movies that get release after release with very few changes to the extras at all like The Fifth Element or.... Star Wars!

[edit]Hehe, I knew I shouldn't have left my computer mid-post! Now there was this response....
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
I don't mean that. I mean the regular release, the special release, the different box sets, the ultimate box sets, the leatherbound-looking box sets... just too many different ways to buy.

That really is still only the two and a half versions. There is zero difference between the individual discs and the box sets except that they are in a cardboard box and slightly cheaper. I don't get your point as obviously they originally had to be released individually as the movies were made (much like the Star Wars prequels), and of course they will give you the option of buying the set together, everyone in every industry does that, the Star Wars OT, the Star Wars prequels and entire set when Ep III comes out, tons of other movies and TV series do it, books are in sets, music CDs, games, etc, etc. Simply the cheapest way to buy any product.

Would you prefer if all series were only released separately? This means more expense, more chance your local video store will be missing one or two discs (either unordered or sold out, as I keep on running into with the Superman movies) and no box to put them in which the collectors will just love. OK, obviously that doesn't work, so lets not release individual movies and only release box sets. Well, if I only liked A New Hope, The Matrix or Superman I and II and hated the rest of the movies in those sets then I'm stuck, I have to buy the whole set. Or if I liked The Phantom Menace I would have to wait six years to get it! OK, so I also like Indiana Jones so I go to buy the movies. Unfortunately they aren't available as they are working on a new movie in the series. Fast forward a couple of years... but I still can't buy them! Apparently there is the slightest possibility of another sequel as the last was popular. No plans for a sequel, but you never know! Well, George, Steven and Harrison are all looking a bit frail, hopefully they will all die soon so that possibility is wiped out!

Hehe, so yeah, all I'm really saying is I still don't get why this situation has made you dislike LotR! [/edit]
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#127529
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Citizen's Aspect Ratio Calculator Tool for your browser
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/127529/action/topic#127529
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Originally posted by: Karyudo
Blue skying a bit for a second:

Imagine a sort of "AviSynth for Dummies" automatic script-generating page, where a nearly-non-user of AviSynth could enter the dimensions of the source and desired output, click on a few checkboxes to pick stuff like sharpening or smoothing or saturation increases/decreases, and have a pretty much full-blown AviSynth script magically appear in a box at the bottom, ready for cutting and pasting.

I'm in no way suggesting you *should* or even *should want to* put together something like that. I'm just sayin' it would be cool, and it was inspired by your already-cool AR calculator makin' life simpler.


Sounds like a great idea, if I had some experience with AviSynth I'd put my hand up for the job right now.

You could even skip the copying and pasting stage and just have the script generate the .AVS automatically, though then newbies wouldn't learn if they never open the file up.

I know you didn't specify an online script (which is all I'd be capable of), but I wonder if a regular GUI could be created for AviSynth. Maybe even something node based like Shake so orders of filters could be easily specified and multiple sources could be used in the right order. That could end up being both a learning tool for newbies and and easy tool for advanced users that simply don't like to 'code'. Add a side panel with the actual code so you can both see what the program is doing plus manually edit it.

Hmmm, I wonder if I could convince one of my younger friends to work on it...
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#127511
Topic
Star War, Episode III - Backstroke Of The West (part-finished release?)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/127511/action/topic#127511
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Originally posted by: TheSessler
You are indeed correct, Reverend.

Forum Posting Rule #57:
Read the whole post before you act like a jackass/dumbass while "schooling" the original poster.


Maybe you should practise your own rule. I was referring both to the fact there was already other places discussing this AND that it had already been requested in those threads.

Of course then I would have to follow my own tips and not continue picking option C!
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#127496
Topic
Star War, Episode III - Backstroke Of The West (part-finished release?)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/127496/action/topic#127496
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When encountering someone's lack of forum etiquette do you:

A) Ignore it and simply help out the original poster, thus providing a good example for other forumers.
B) Consider that they possibly may be quite ill and acting out of character and proceed to option A.
C) Draw attention to the mistake by making a post dripping in sarcasm and generally act like a jerk.
D) Simply help out the original poster, and briefly mention to the offender what could be done next time.

You had pretty good odds there, only one option was wrong.
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#127493
Topic
***The "Darth Editous" Episode IV DVD Info and Feedback Thread*** - a partially "de-specialed" DVD
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/127493/action/topic#127493
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Originally posted by: Darth Editous
Is it supposed to have fallen just as Luke walked in front of it?


Yup, that's what's meant to happen, although hopefully people won't come to the conclusion that it just fell off, because with any luck they won't notice it at all.


Unfortunately it never worked for me, I actually find it the most distracting edit (but that is mostly because the others are sooo good!). It was the only case where I thought the problem was less of a distraction than the fix, especially since the cloak ends up back on the wall in following shots.

Actually, just looking at the original again, I guess it is pretty jarring since it is the same angle, just closer. I think it would be a case of had the edit not been mentioned here most would not have noticed it and it would have worked fine. Hehe, that's the problem with both wanting to make an invisible change and wanting people to know what you did!

In the end I guess we just have to explain it away as Ben's Magic Hut, since all his other ornaments appear, disappear and move around the room (most notibly on his centre table)!
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#127488
Topic
Citizen's Aspect Ratio Calculator Tool for your browser
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/127488/action/topic#127488
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Originally posted by: Citizen
Would be nice to have a realtime update when you enter in the source x,y numbers but I don't know if Javascript can do that and I don't know Java.


Yep, Javascript is capable of that, in fact the automatic updating of data is sort of the 'big thing' in the world of web design at the moment (most famous examples would be Gmail and Google Suggest). If you really do want to add that capability then just Google up AJAX as that is the name most people have started calling the now more popular method.
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#127362
Topic
Dr. M's Reinventing The Wheel Edition (PAL to NTSC+) (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/127362/action/topic#127362
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Originally posted by: pupil
Just playing in SoundForge, to pitch shift up by 4.096%, you need to increase the pitch by 69.5 cents, and to pitch shift it down by 4.096%, you need to decrease it by -72.4 cents. In my mind they should be plus and minus the same value, but Sound Forge doesnt seem to think so, I'm going by the transposition ratio at the bottom of the window, either up to 1.04096, or down to 0.95904.


That is easily explained, and probably should be done before other people make the same mistake!

Take this example. Our film source is 100,000 seconds long, we make that faster by 4.096% which leaves us with a PAL version at 95,904 seconds. Now if we slow the 95,904 version down by 4.096% we end up with a copy that is 99,832 seconds long, not 100,000 seconds. The reason is that 4.096% of 95,904 is obviously less than 4.096% of 100,000.

So the problem was you were thinking in terms of the original source where SoundForge is correctly thinking in terms of the current source. Easy mistake and something I hadn't thought of until you mentioned it! So whenever you are adjusting PAL material to 24fps then if my maths is right then you need to slow it down by 4.2709376043%. Been way to long since I've done that sort of maths!
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#127073
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A word to the Myspleeners.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/127073/action/topic#127073
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Originally posted by: segaflip
I dont see why people care what version the release come in, be it iso, img, video_ts, or any other format that I left out. It is not to hard to go between them.
If you dont like iso use winrar to extract the folders.


I explained exactly why I don't particularly like ISO files for torrents already, so I don't get what isn't to understand. Your 'solution' doesn't solve any of the problems and for me really only introduces new ones (as I find ISOs much simpler to burn).
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#127042
Topic
<strong>The Official Greencapt 'Batman &amp; Robin: De-Assified' Edit thread</strong> (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/127042/action/topic#127042
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Originally posted by: greencapt
May I at least leave the rubber shark????


I think you'll have to otherwise you'd have a hard time explaining how Batman figures out who is behind the crimes...

Commissioner Gordon: It could be any one of them... But which one? Which ones?
Batman: Pretty 'fishy' what happened to me on that ladder...
Commissioner Gordon: You mean where there's a fish there could be a penguin?
Robin: But wait! It happened at sea... Sea. C for Catwoman!
Batman: Yet, an exploding shark 'was' pulling my leg...
Commissioner Gordon: The Joker!
Chief O'Hara: All adds up to a sinister riddle... Riddle-R. Riddler!
Commissioner Gordon: A thought strikes me... So dreadful I scarcely dare give it utterance...
Batman: The four of them... Their forces combined...
Robin: Holy nightmare!
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#126764
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Info Wanted: who no UK PAL LaserDisc Version for a DVD transfer?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/126764/action/topic#126764
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Originally posted by: Darth Editous

Modified how? To play an NTSC disc as PAL? Because I can't imagine how you'd do that.


No, it was nothing to do with NTSC, they wanted to modify a PAL player (the Pioneer CLD-D925 if I remember correctly, the same player Moth3r used for his transfer) so they could receive a better image from the PAL source discs. I think the plan was to bypass a certain filter before certain problems were introduced.

I really should just read back instead of doing all this 'guessing'!

[edit]Well, I can now confirm it was the D925 that they were thinking of modifying, but since the forum search function is useless here I can't find the posts where Laserman and Moth3r were discussing it.[/edit]

[edit2]Still haven't found those posts (in which Laserman tells Moth3r to keep his player), but I believe it is the 3-line 2D comb filter that was to be bypassed to reduce dot crawl. At least this is what I've gathered from Karyudo's posts on the topic as he has the same player.[/edit2]
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#126274
Topic
<strong>The &quot;ADigitalMan Special Editions&quot; DVD Info and Feedback Thread</strong> (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/126274/action/topic#126274
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Originally posted by: segaflip
It has been seeded, I am not stupid, would not request a REseed of something that is not ever been seeded.
I would put a link up to the direct myspleen page but i am not sure if that is ok. \

Currently two people on and no seeds for the torrent.


Hehe, I keep on forgetting about dead torrents!

By the way, what I've gathered from the etiquette of this forum is it is okay to direct link to MySpleen pages, but it isn't okay to ask for reseeds here, only at the MySpleen forum. May not be true, but that is the impression I've got here.

Is that the final version of ADM's ROTJ? I need a new torrent to download and if this is the final version then it may just be it!
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#125942
Topic
ANH running time difference 1991-1995
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/125942/action/topic#125942
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Four options, the first two already mentioned.

1) Credits counted and not counted.

2) Time compression, in the past some movies were sped up slightly to fit on 120min tapes, I believe some of the Superman movies are examples of this. Obviously 121 and 122 minute films wouldn't fit on a 120min tape.

3) One of the copies is NTSC format , the other PAL. PAL tapes were always 4% faster than the film as it is one frame a second faster. If you include rounding in the calculations then that would work with your two runtimes.

4) The box is just wrong, someone typed in the wrong movies runtime.
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#125939
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MagnoliaFan Edits: Ep I &quot;Balance Of The Force&quot;, and Ep II &quot;The Clone War&quot; (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/125939/action/topic#125939
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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
I'm also saving up for a DVD camera so that editing on the PC would be a hell of a lot easier.


If you are after a high quality end result then I really suggest you don't get a recordable DVD camera.

Without getting too technical, basically these cameras record in a lower quality format than regular MiniDV cameras as the discs store a whole lot less space.

I also don't really think they would be easier to edit with, editing the DV through Firewire would be simpler with any decent video editor.
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#125538
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DVD Covers (Eps. I,II,III, V &amp; VI)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/125538/action/topic#125538
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Originally posted by: TheCassidy
I'd love to see what someone could do with this image, sort of a really, really old-school style 80's cover. My photoshop skills are incomplete, but it'd be cool if someone could take a crack at designing a cover that incorporated this design:


I think I might have a go at that if I can find a decent image for ROTJ, I've got a heap of ideas already! Unfortunately I'm going to bed right now, I'll have to see what I can do tomorrow lunchtime.