Ghostbusters

I took back the a-hole quote, forget I said it.

I love Cameo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4fkI6Wg06I

Is against the forum to post pictures of people without their permission? I would like to post this image of Adamwan from his Myspace, but idk if that is against the TOS.

Could you link me to the talk about Adamwan being a pedophile? I remember seeing that somewhere, but I didn't read it very thoroughly. i thought he was just joking. Now that you tell me that I feel kind of dirty sending him an email. I'm afraid the return email will be "soiled" by him.

Oh are you guys talking about Ingo Sucks, didn't he turn out to be Zigfried?

Warbler said:

Ghostbusters said:

Apparently he is 35 years old, I would have thought he was 15 the way he posted. I really liked Adamwan though and I hope he is still here. He was funny.  

this makes suspect that you are Adam.   

Ghostbusters said:

 I've never heard of Ingo before.

it is interesting that you've never heard Ingo, yet you know of Zigfried and Adam.   very interesting. 

I learned about them through TV's Frink Classic LOL moments in OT history. Now that I think about it I do remember seeing Ingo.

Bingowings said:

I think someones already done MS Paint for the iPhone.

LOL, no this idea is actually really good and quite original, although it would have been a lot more valuable 5-6 years ago. I would tell you what the idea is, but I'm afraid you will steal my idea. I need to start developing it. I wish I had time to program this app, but my damn collage is holding me back.

Where do you guys come off thinking I'm Ziggy or Ingo? I've never heard of Ingo before. I think I might have seen his name on here a few times. Was he a troll that got banned? I highly suspect Zigfried is still here as a sock and Adamwan too. I found a profile he made on Myspace.

http://www.myspace.com/adam_wan_kenobi

Apparently he is 35 years old, I would have thought he was 15 the way he posted. I really liked Adamwan though and I hope he is still here. He was funny.  

I have an idea for an app that I think will make me millions so I don't need to go to sckool.

TV's Frink said:

Ghostbusters said:

I skipped class a lot. I would go to the bathroom a lot during an hour I didn't like and take a dump (I trained myself to take a dump that hour).

So it was all the school's fault?

When did I say it was all the schools fault? But their methods forced me into isolation in the bathroom during classes I didn't want to go to.

TheBoost said:

I'm not arguing with this, I'm just saying there is a confidence and gift factor involved.

People seem to think education equates to money, but I disagree. I find that most of our most innovative people learned these skills outside of the classroom. They're gifted, you can't teach gift. And I don't think innovation get taught in the classroom either. I learn ways on how to deal with my assignments a lot better now thanks to the internet. I don't need to meticulously read through things, I can just read summaries of it on the internet, or use an internet calculator, or ask for help on a forum, see what google and even youtube has to say about it. Watching instruction through video mode is a lot faster, effective, and intuitive way to learn than reading in text. There's people with PHDs who are still working for minimum wage because they can't find a job. If you have a PHD you should have to look for jobs, you should be able to invent jobs. It just shows  that schools make you think inside the box.

I don't know how I ever graduated. I failed math almost every time in high school. I only passed Geometry my freshman year and then after that I don't think I ever passed math again. I don't even remember what I took junior and senior year and if you asked me then I don't think I could tell you then either. I skipped class a lot. I would go to the bathroom a lot during an hour I didn't like and take a dump (I trained myself to take a dump that hour). The school got so fed up with me about math it was like they quit trying. 

I think a mistake that a lot of schools make is they teach you to be a diligent person and don't worry about anyone else. Schools should teach us to worry about other people and want to educate everyone, not just ourselves. Most jobs in this country are formed out of laziness and ignorance. For example, a lot of people are too lazy to fill up their own bottles with water so bottled water is a multi-billion dollar industry. I have a water filter system at home and I have these glass Sobe bottles and Calypso bottles that I continuously refill and put in my fridge so I don't ever have to buy bottled water. Sure the water filter system may cost more money initially, but within a few years I have more than paid for it in not buying bottled water. Not to mention plastic bottles cause a lot of pollution. Same goes for a lot of things. I think schools teach you that you are better off "keeping up with the Jones's" just running from one event to another mindless consuming than to actually slow down and conscientiously think about your consumption and find ways to minimize it. I know this doesn't sound like an answer to education, but for some reason to me it does. Think about textbooks, how many people actually read those from cover to cover? Most people read a few articles in them and then put them away and never look at them again. Is that really an effective way to distribute information? Instead of having kids carry around books that they will hardly read why not just forget about the books altogether and just have printouts of the article and have kids reuse them. Or have public laptops that students can rent if they don't have their own and require them to have laptops in class to access the articles they go over.

My last year at college felt exhausting when I was almost going full time. I feel like I am constantly on the go from one thing to another and I hear all these lectures and read all this information and I wonder, is all this really necessary? How much of this information am I going to remember? Why do I have to document so many things? I'm not even going to look back at my documentation even if I do document it. Why does life have to be so complicated? At the end of the day I felt empty because even after all this time doing things I don't feel like doing, I still feel like "I'm not keeping up with the Jones's." I used to think that I was in the minority of people about not liking school and finding boring, but then  I started to realize that a lot of people don't like memorizing facts and reading boring material over and over again. We all just do it because we were taught that is "what is normal".

TheBoost said:

Ghostbusters said:

TheBoost said:

I'm curious what his schools test scores were? What was the graduation rate? How many went on to 4 year uiversities? Drop out rate? What percentage of students were ELL? Transient populations? What was the AYP or API scores?

Very good and still is.

 ? ? ?

So you went to a very successful school that had great results across the board? That seems counter to your OP.

Well it is a suburban school district, most suburban schools do well. Just because their scores my say they are good doesn't mean they really are a good school. 

TheBoost said:

You are aware that public education varies greatly district to district, and is actually organized by the states with the exception of certain standards and requirments for federal funding? If you plan on condeming all of American education with the brush of your own unpleasant high-school experience, feel free to condemn the rest of the Western-world as well. They tend to start fairly early in the morning too.

I am aware, maybe I should have titled this thread: my high school experience sucked.

TV's Frink said:

My response to the OP: you have to do a lot of shit you don't want to do if you want to survive in this world, whether it is in regard to a school, a job, a family, a relationship, or what have you.  You don't like homework or getting up early?

I just saw Ferris Bueller's Day Off, I think that is what inspired me to type this thread. This thread is not about shaming me, it is about how much American schools suck.

TheBoost said:

I'm curious what his schools test scores were? What was the graduation rate? How many went on to 4 year uiversities? Drop out rate? What percentage of students were ELL? Transient populations? What was the AYP or API scores?

Very good and still is.

http://www.loc.gov/film/

http://lccn.loc.gov/96501520

These links were in my browser and I have no idea where they came from? I'm guessing they came from here in somebody's post linking them and I clicked on them without looking at them. I just like to keep track of everything I browse so I feel in control.

Most of you on this forums are Americans, but I do know that an handful of you are not American so this post does not apply to your schools but you may be able to relate to this thread.

I hear on the news how our schools in this country are becoming so bad. Drop out rates of high school students keeps going up around the country. I read articles a lot on why this is happening, most blame it on lack of funding. Some claim it's the teachers unions. Some claim it is the rising rate of learning disabilities etc. I think it's a little bit of everything.

Inequality:

I feel what I experience in school is what a lot more students are experiencing today. I think the core of the problem is inequality. I feel like I have learned a lot more in the last 5 years out of high school than I did in high school (yes it took me an extra year).

For one thing, I learned that when other people are in charge of things for you, you tend to be complacent about it. It's not that you don't appreciate it or care, it's just certain parts of the brain don't become engaged until you are responsible for things. People like to shame you for taking things for granted. But I have learned I like being in charge of things because it makes me feel in control. School teaches you this attitude I think that you are not good enough for things you don't know, but now I like to know as much as I can. For example, I didn't care about money because my mom was always in charge of it. I just thought of it as this infinite fund (subconsciously) that was always there every time I need it. When  I became in charge of my own money it became apparent why it is important to learn credit terms, taxes, history of our economic system, because the more you know the more money you can make.

Early Bird Attitudes:

Another issue I had was this attitude schools have that you're a piece of shit if you don't wake up at 5am everyday. I was never a morning person, I always had a hard time getting up and I like to stay up late. That has never changed and it never will. Almost every time I try to go to bed at 10pm I am restless and can't fall asleep until 1-3am.

Socializing:

I spent a lot of time in school in counselor's offices discussing various things from my attendance, academic deficiencies, to just being socially inept. They treated me like a dog about the issue though, they would give me free line passes for lunch for attending school on time and getting homework done on time, but I hated to go to lunch early because I hated sitting in the lunch rooms and I liked standing in line as long as possible so I spent less time sitting. It was just one thing after another in the lunch room. I had an identity crisis trying to figure out where to sit and where ever I sat it seemed like someone always had to give me a hard time. I think reasons like this is why kids are dropping out of schools more than anything. I think kids get fed up with feeling alone in school and leave because they just can't stand it.  

Lazy Teachers:

Although I agree teachers should get paid better, I do think there are far too many lazy teachers out htere that just get away with doing as little as possible. I think the standards for the profession are pretty high though, so  I am always baffled when  I see how terrible some of the teachers that get let into the system are. My Mom is a teacher and has moved around to many different schools in her district so I have some insight into what's like. If the profession did get higher paying it would attract better people too.

Old fashioned homework:

The days of assigning assignments in class and expecting them done the next day is boring and obsolete in this day and age. I never liked classes assigning things in class that should be done tomorrow. Teachers always like to do that but  I find that having them start assignments in class and finish it out is a lot more effective than having that part of class completely separate from what is done in class. Homework should be something that is introduced in the classroom as well as outside. Schools should be fully engaged with the internet, posting assignments due and should be done completely electronically, we shouldn't have paper involved in anything anymore. The internet has become completely superior to paper based information.

Private schools suck even more than public:

I went to a private school for one year and I found it even worse than public schools. I found that private schools play a lot of favoritism and don't really care if you show up as long as you pay your tuition. They're not concerned about you education and just want your money to make themselves look good so they can appeal to richer people to give them more money. At least in public schools I felt more of a sense of accountability for everyone.

That's all I have for now, I will add more later.

ChainsawAsh, I know you ignored me, but if you are reading this I would like you to unignore me because there are still a few technical things about film I would like to talk to you about. 

TV's Frink said:

Ghostbusters said:

I will buy the blu-ray set on ebay or download it or something, my money is not going directly to Lucas, he can kiss my ass.

Oh good, you're a pirate.  Congratulations!

I will download it from a legal site of course.

Fang Zei said:

Ghostbusters said:

I don't understand why LFL wants such a hefty price for these blu-rays when they don't even include the OT, something millions of fans want, but they include a crappy version we already have in higher resolution. Maybe if LFL would give us want we want, they wouldn't have such a problem with tracking down bootlegs/illegal file sharing. 

Yeah, but then they wouldn't be able to quadruple-dip the spending masses. "OMG, Star Wars on blu-ray! What? It's not the original versions? Oh well, it'll do." Why give everyone what they want when you can bait and switch?

That said, I really will be surprised if LFL doesn't eventually do a proper restoration of the original versions at some point, even if it's not until 2017. I dunno, it just seems like it keeps getting built up and built up and after this recent "no comment" from LFL after they got asked for the umpteenmillionth time about the original versions, you'd think they would, I dunno, TAKE A FUCKING HINT.

I just really don't see what Lucas would be accomplishing by never getting around to it. I mean, is he hoping that after he says "no" for the umpteenbillionth time we'll just give up and stop asking? Maybe then he'll convince himself that people really don't want the OOT and it's not even worth the time and effort to restore it and press out the discs because no one will buy them (okay, that sounds a little too Howard Hughes).

Waiting to release it for the sake of double-dipping and making money is annoying, but that's business, I get it. These are some of the only movies LFL owns the rights to and they happen to be the most successful movies of all time. Not to sound jaded and cynical, but if you were LFL wouldn't you be milking these movies for all they're worth?

I'd be willing to wait for a proper blu-ray of the OOT, even if they are the last three movies released on the format.

Refusing to ever release it at all, on the other hand, is just pure lunacy.

He ain't getting my money with these blu-rays. The only versions I have bought retail so far is the 2004 DVDs. I'm not buying another version retail until the OT gets the respect it deserves. I will buy the blu-ray set on ebay or download it or something, my money is not going directly to Lucas, he can kiss my ass.

I do feel like this is the jock community of star wars, or at least as close as it is ever going to get.

I don't understand why LFL wants such a hefty price for these blu-rays when they don't even include the OT, something millions of fans want, but they include a crappy version we already have in higher resolution. Maybe if LFL would give us want we want, they wouldn't have such a problem with tracking down bootlegs/illegal file sharing.