lordjedi said
I guess laying there and not moving just wasn't enough then. I guess he had to say something like "Groan, that hurt." Yeah, that would've made that scene so much better :P
Ok well Ill get the ones we’ve discussed out of the way first
The SWAT member riding shotgun making terrible comments throughout that entire chase scene
Shock...horror! A no name actor gets the worst lines in the movie! I'm shocked, shocked I tell you!
Fox having a problem helping Batman locate Joker, using the technology he created and when his morals have been at best questionable with what else he has done for Batman.
Uh, no. Fox had a dilema because Batman suddenly wants to invade EVERYONES privacy in order to find one criminal. This is probably the one scene in the entire movie that could be compared to our current government (not getting into it here). I don't think anything else he had done until that point had been questionable at all. Everything he did to that point involved helping someone that actually had the money and abilities to catch the bad buys, to actually catch the bad guys.
A yellow school bus driving out of a bank covered in rubble and everyone acting like that was a normal thing.
I thought it was funny actually. I'm sure everyone did freak out (the shot wasn't exactly a close up) and I can imagine the calls to 911. "A school bus just drove out of a bank". So the cops would end up looking for a school bus and they'd find all those buses driving somewhere (maybe). And that then assumes that Joker didn't simply drive it a couple of blocks and then unload it.
The whole scene recreating the fingerprint from a fragmented bullet was completely and absolutely absurd.
Much like almost every episode of CSI, right?
Making the convict out to be a “good” person by having him throw out the remote. I guess their trying to show not everyone is as messed up as the Joker, sorry the guys already in an orange jumpsuit…failure.
Or maybe they were trying to point out that the convict realized "I've had my chance. I screwed up. I need to pay my debt." Just because you're in an orange jumpsuit, doesn't mean you have to be evil and take out a bunch of innocent people. It seemed to me like he was willing to serve his time or even accept the fate of being blown up rather than take out everyone else. In fact, a friend of mine said it would have been really fun if both detonators actually blew up the convicts anyway. I think it would've been funny if the detonators had blown up the boats they were on. I think that would've been classic Joker.
Batman not being Batman. Not attempting to stop Rachel and himself from falling. Not attempting to get the drop on The Joker in the building when he knew his exact location. Batman walking straight up to Two-Face when he had a gun to the kids head. Batman just walks around in broad daylight, so much for his secretive nature.Batman basically getting his butt kicked by The Joker and only accidently beating him.
Yeah, because Joker had been so easily surprised before. And he didn't exactly "walk up to Two-Face". If I remember correctly, he lept at him and it actually was a surprise.
Batman saving The Joker.
As others have said, this was perfectly within character. If he had really wanted to kill him, he would've run him over with his motorcycle.
The Joker making a deal with the mob to get their money when he cares about nothing.
Others have already pointed this one out. Joker only cared about chaos. By burning his half, he made the mob realize how insane he really was.
Batmans longest and most physical fight was with the SWAT team. He couldnt have incapacitated the first group, grabbed one of their comms and informed the entire team? Nah it was better for him to have fought all of them, that made more sense. I mean don’t have him fight the criminals/enemy for the last big fight scene.
Um, no, because they were no longer listening to him if you remember. They were taking orders from Gordon only. What would've made some sense, if Gordon had been willing to listen to Batman, would be if Batman had radioed Gordon and told him to have the SWAT team stand down because the "criminals" were just a bunch of kids all tied up. But then that would've taken the dramatic element out of it and it would've meant that Gordon still trusted Batman when it was becoming apparent that he didn't.
The Jokers convincing of Harvey into becoming a cold blooded murder.
Yeah, I'm sure it was hard for Joker to do after Batman saved him instead of Rachel.
The Joker blowing up the hospital. (I have my reasons for that, I don’t wish to explain)
Um, ok.
Putting The Mayor out in an area impossible to control and extremely visible after a hits been placed on his life.
Maybe to draw the bad guy out? I don't really know nor do I care. It didn't really jump out at me as a bad thing.
Just in case you missed it at the top, because you apparently did from the original post.
And Im very proud of ya, you did just what I figured you would do.
Did you even see this movie? He walks right up to him and starts conversing with him. Only after revealing that he was there and getting shot does he leap at him. Selective memory much?