GhostAlpha26

lordjedi said:

But as they get older, they become much more responsible.

 

AA also has a pretty low success rate.  Something like under 10-20% if I'm not mistaken.  That means 80% of the people that try it fail.  Programs that teach people how to consume alcohol in moderation have much higher success rates.

Besides, I never said everybody drinks responsibly.  I said people CAN drink responsibly.  But I guess it doesn't matter that the majority of the population isn't involved with AA.  If a huge portion of the population were going to AA meetings on a regular basis, it would be pretty newsworthy.

 

Um the success rate was not the point. The fact is that according to you, people are “much more” responsible as they get older (with nothing but anecdotal evidence to back up your claims). Yes as people get older they mature, but I don’t know of much objective evidence between getting old and drinking responsibly, as is noted by AA clubs and Programs that you brought up that teach people to drink in moderation, which by the way just further enforces that people have trouble drinking responsibly and that there are many adults having these issues.

 

Yes you have said that people CAN drink responsibly (and were so happy you can :p) , as I have said, my point was that you can be responsible today and reckless tomorrow. Just because you become an adult does not guarantee you step away from the realm of irresponsible drinking. You have stated to the effect that anything in life can go wrong while doing anything, expect to a person who drinks responsibly because apparently someone who can drink responsibly can never ever drink irresponsible one time and in that one time nothing could possibly go wrong. Someone stating that I know how to be responsible I have gone through my plastered drinking stage and I now and forever know how to drink responsible and I will never be irresponsible while drinking and even though I could never ever ever be irresponsible when drinking a future time, nothing unexpected could occur due to my irresponsible drinking one time even though I would never be irresponsible, ever. No your right thats not foolish to think at all :p hahahaha

lordjedi said:

It's usually the other way around.  It's usually reckless today (read: young and stupid), responsible tomorrow (read: older and wiser).  Yeah, sure, I know a few high school people that can drink responsibly, but those are rare.  But I know a fair share of adults that can drink with no problem (cousins, aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters, friends, coworkers, etc, etc, etc).

I'd even go so far as to say that most people don't start out drinking responsibly.  But as they get older, they become much more responsible.  I can honestly say that I'm one of the few people I know that didn't drink through high school, yet I still got hammered on the weekends after I turned 21.  I got wasted off my ass, but I was still smart enough to not go driving anywhere or be on 2nd story balconies.  And as I got older, and had more responsibilities, I became a more responsible drinker.

 

Hmm more anecdotal evidence :) That group they have oh whats it called oh yeah AA, that has nothing to do with adults and its member population is truly tiny, probably only a couple hundred :p

Tiptup said:

You continue to amaze me with your ability to completely misinterpret what other people say. Congrats. :)

And its still ridiculous how much the Internet affects you  :p

Well not only does the game feel like a let down from what Ive played but the Wii and PS2 versions were developed by a different company (Krome Studios) and do not have the new "revolutionary" technologies in them, DMM nor Euphoria. However the Wii has a "Duel Mode" which is not on any other console and has an extra number of levels compared to the PS3, 360 and PS2, so it seems the PS2 really got the short end of the stick.

skyjedi2005 said:

So Force Unleashed sucked huh?

I hope nobody buys it and it is a wake up call for Lucas.

Fat chance at that since he lives in his own little dream world where the prequels were so much better than the original trilogy and truer to his vision, LOL.

 

Clone Wars sucked and now Force Unleashed sucks.  So when is that Indiana Jones game coming out and will it be better than the crystal shit.

 

For lack of a better word it did. It looked promising but it really was a let down from what I played in the demo. I think I may still rent it to play through it but its definitely  not worth purchasing.

I cant believe Im saying this but I didnt think Clone Wars was terrible it wasnt anything special but for what it is ( a kids cartoon movie) I thought it was alright. Sky did you not like the entire movie or were there a lot of small things that you didnt like about clone wars?

A demo for The Force Unleashed came out today for Xbox Live and Playsation Network. The force powers are fun but theres no dismemberment (loss of limbs)... The gameplay felt pretty bland. The new technologies DMM and Euphoria were pretty cool but the "chaos" felt muted.

vbangle said:

ah I see now, making friends and influencing people is what you do here.....very nice. Keep up the good work.

Nanner Split said:

Okay, I'm going to say this again: it is IMPOSSIBLE for someone to become physically dependent on marijuana. It is possible to become psychologically addicted to it, as it is possible to become psychologically addicted to just about any consumable substance. It is also IMPOSSIBLE to overdose on weed (I assume this is what you meant by "the small stuff"?).

I actually fibbed in an earlier post becomes I didn't feel like divulging too much of my personal life to a fuckstick like you, but I changed my mind. I have two very good friends who descended very deep into drugs, one of whom with meth, the other with just about every drug you can possibly think of and then some. The latter ended up having a moderate mental breakdown and had to take several prescription drugs every day to keep his mind afloat (he showed me all the stuff he had to take; it was literally a gallon-size Ziploc bag full of pill bottles). And do you want to know what happened to both of them? They both cleaned up their fucking act, and now they're both sober and perfectly fine. The latter weened himself off of his prescription meds;  he feels better than he has in four years and he is no longer overweight. What I'm getting at is that even though people can and do get addicted, part of it also has to do with willpower, and those that have an addiction can quit if that is what they really want, if they truly want to give up whatever desirable effects the drug provides them if it is ruining their lives.

Hey great story dude, so its kinda like its "whatever it takes" right man? Kinda like whatever it takes to win an internet debate with someone by lying to them initially and in doing so insulting your two "very close friends" for the sake of the debate HAHAHAHAHA 

lordjedi said:

GhostAlpha26 said:

lordjedi said:

Uh, yeah, I'm sure he was "moderately" drunk after graduating.  Most recent grads I've know don't get "moderately" drunk after graduating from anything.

Well now that you have made a generalized statement about something you knew very little about, it can hold up for any situation.

People can  drink responsibly but no one graduating college can drink moderately

Of course they can.  That's the point.  People can drink moderately and responsibly.  Your ridiculous comments suggesting that people can't drink responsibly are totally asinine and are only based on your anecdotal evidence.  There's plenty of other evidence that shows people are more than capable of drinking (and doing drugs) responsibly.

The point is that just because you think "responsible" drinking is a joke, doesn't mean it is.  It just means you've seen some seriously bad shit happen to people that also happen to be drinking.  Bad shit can happen to anyone whether they're walking down the street totally sober or sitting on the couch at home watching TV.  I can safely say that I'm more than capable of drinking responsibly and drink one or two beers 3 nights out of the week.

 

 

What I was pointing out is, Responsible today, reckless tomorrow. Its just that easy at times with drugs. But now its clear since you can be responsible you have anecdotal evidence to back up your air tight defense.

PSYCHO_DAYV said:

SORRY, GHOST, BUT YOU'VE LOST THIS ARGUMENT.

Total disappointment, losing things over the internet, I know how important it must be for you :p

C3PX said:

I think being an ass is a hell of a lot more dangerous than using drugs of any kind. Many more "accidents" happen to asses than to drug users. You act like an ass on the internet, because you think nobody can "accidentally" break your jaw when you are hiding behind a computer screen. But your still an ass, and fewer and fewer people here like you everyday because you insult them and call them names just because you can, or because they disagree with you about a movie or video game. You may not care about that, but perhaps you should. You certainly have nothing to be proud of yourself about.

Because people getting drunk at bars (using drugs) every night act so proper and stuff always goes smoothly at bars, and drinking never makes people act ridiculous, you dont get out much do you? Oh and your right I hear about numerous stories detailing how people have horrible things happen to them for being so out of line on the internet, its a much larger number compared to say Drunk driving deaths...hahahaha. You have so much to be proud of by putting someone in their place online, someday I can only hope to be proud of what I do on  internet forums and lead such a fulfilling life :p

lordjedi said:

Uh, yeah, I'm sure he was "moderately" drunk after graduating.  Most recent grads I've know don't get "moderately" drunk after graduating from anything.

Well now that you have made a generalized statement about something you knew very little about, it can hold up for any situation.

People can  drink responsibly but no one graduating college can drink moderately...youve got it all figured out and its obvious you thought your statements through LOL

You truly are an indignant prick. And a predictable tool as usual :)

There may be a higher prevalence of someone becoming addicted when they start using from a young age but the fact of the matter is that anyone at any age came become highly addicted to drugs. It takes a mere string of bad luck to push some people over from casual user to highly addicted. And older people usually have the means to purchase the hardcore drugs. I also think its extremely foolhardy for people to write off “casual” drug use of socially acceptable drugs as not a big thing. Alcohol being a prime example, has taken more lives than most any other drug out there. But people still think No real harm if people are “responsible” BS. As Ive said Ive known a close person who has gone from the “small,” stuff to the hardcore drugs and ruin their lives, Ive knew a kid from high school who overdosed and died because of it (who was a casual user). I knew another kid from high school who was drinking during his birthday, fell over a railing from a few stories up and is permanently disfigured because of it. A long time family friend who graduated with High Honors from Harvard happened to be moderately drunk one night after graduating, fell off over a balcony and died. So to say that these “causal” drugs are harmless is profoundly stupid to say. It takes nothing more than a slight mishap while drunk or high for some serious bad sh!* to occur, but by all means think of drug use as a casual thing to do, but don’t think you cant be just another statistic because of your “casual” lifestyle, and because you do it “responsibly” Hahanah so ridiculous.

I just feel that there all a waste of time and money. Expensive or cheap (relatively speaking), addictive or non-addictive, socially acceptable or not, illegal or legal, I feel there all worthless. So much more to life and better ways to spend it...I have obviously figured it out being on a forum so much LOL.

Nanner Split said:

when I'm high all I want to do is sit on the couch and eat.

We could argue symantics...but thats pretty damn close to being inhibitied if you ask me :p

Nanner Split said:

 

In all seriousness though, most of the time alcohol is what causes people to lose their inhibitions. Weed doesn't, for the most part (because there are always exceptions). At least personally-speaking; with alcohol I want to wander off and do something ridiculous (I believe I jumped off a friend's roof into his pool once when drunk, although to be fair this roof in particular was quite close to the ground), whereas when I'm high all I want to do is sit on the couch and eat.

You just described the different types of inhibitions people experience from various drugs...Well done hahah

Nanner Split said:

b) I want you to find for me, and quote for me, the post where I said that I used drugs to lose inhibition.

 

You dont have to say you use drugs for that reason, but more so than not that is the outcome, intended or not when using them.

But this should work in any case.

On a typical Friday night I am

or..

b) stinking drunk and doing something that makes no sense

HAHAHAHA

Nanner Split

 

No, I don't know a single person that has done that. At all. Because..

You live in a bubble.  Not saying everyone does know a person like that

Nanner Split said:

anyone with at least half a brain can control themselves,

HAHAHAHA says the teen who uses drugs to lose inhibition

Nanner Split said:

So you've never purchased fruits, vegetables, or flowers for a special someone? Damn, I weep for both your digestive system and your love life. :P

Well when you have at least  half a brain an ounce of something is usually not worth upwards of $50 (Im sure Im way off but I have no doubt you could tell us a more accurate #) :p  Its a shame for the girl whose best date is out to a Fast Food joint cause her guy is more interested in getting high :)

Johnny Ringo said:

For those that weren't satisfied, What sort of stuff were you expecting / hoping for in a follow up to 'Batman Begins'?

I just did that

GhostAlpha26 said:

I would have liked to have seen them go in this direction with the Jokers appearance (more specifically the top two photos).

Man oh man you get everybodys panties in a knot if you dont have sunshine and buttercups coming outta your mouth when you talk about this movie.

Sluggo said:

Ugh.  EU overload.  I was much happier before I knew who Mara Jade was or what yogmash is

Huh funny I feel the same way about Dexter Jettster and midichlorians :p

I would have liked to have seen them go in this direction with the Jokers apperance (more specifially the top two photos). Something about straying away from the comic book style but still having him look like a goofy clown was arkward. 

Rob said:

 

To recap, your a shit eating cave man and a childish retard if you believe in flying men in the sky, the radio is making you dumber by the minute, and America sucks just like all of the other countries on this planet (because people are filthy stupid animals)

You get to live with that much disdain constantly in life as a liberal....where do you sign up hahaha

Case in point....hahahaha

And it makes me happy that I dont use my money on a plant :p hahahaha

You can argue over the stats and the legalization all ya want, I just say its still sad when someone thinks the best way to go through life is to be high for a significant portion of it.

Ziz said:

I'm not so sure about "not enough Imperial presence".  One of the things the films deal with thematically is the Empire's arrogance, that just the fact that they're there should be enough to scare people.  To that end, they don't send everything they've got to every battle, just what they think will be needed for the situation.  All they expected to be escaping from Hoth was a couple of slow, bulky transports, a few fighters and the Falcon.  From the Empire's perspective, the Falcon was the only one that was a challenge - the rest were fish in a barrel.

 

I feel the same way, the SSD was enough "Shock and awe." Put it in any fleet and thats enough presence in my opinion.

Nanner Split said:

GhostAlpha26 said:

HotRod said:

sean wookie said:

and smoke a lot of pot.

 

Truest thing you've ever said man

 

Ahhh..The good ol' days of the Ganja....Man, I miss smoking that shit. But I suppose we all have to take priorities in life when we become fathers.

Still, I do miss my weed!!

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And Ghost man, why you being such a dick...Over at Ady's thread you seem pretty cool, so why you being such an arse over here??

Just F'ing around...having fun :)

 

On another note, It really irks me when people enjoy weed. Being high on life is the best and only way to go :p If you need a substance to be chill/relaxed or to enjoy life more at times, I just feel sorry for those people. Dont mean to put anyone down directly, just on the topic.

 

 

As Doug Stanhope once said, the only people who are anti-drug (anti-weed, more specifically) are those that have never tried it, and those that sucked at doing it. Which one are you, GhostAlpha?

Never used it and proud to be unlike most everyone :) Have you ever had someone close to you become a hardcore drug user after starting on the "small" stuff and ruin their life because of it? I didnt have anything "profound" to ask you that came from a stand up comedian, so I figured Id ask something that I actually experienced rather then use someone elses "life experience" :p