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#1427909
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Episode III: The Eyepainter Fanedit (Released)(Trailer online)
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That line was referencing a deleted scene in which Obi-Wan talked to Padme about his worries about Anakin (which would’ve actually been a great scene from what I read in the script had it been left in; the dialogue is actually fantastic, you can read it on Internet Movie Script Database), not Obi-Wan and Padme having an affair.

In the novel that delves into what Palpatine made Anakin think what was going on, it wasn’t an affair either: he was trying to convince him that the Delegation of 2000 and the Jedi were teaming up to overthrow the Republic.

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#1426151
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Star Wars - Episode IV: The Heir of Skywalker (V2 Released)
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I highly enjoyed this edit. The color grading was fantastic, I love that the blaster bolts were updated to match the prequels, and the lightsabers were also vastly improved. A lot of the other new visuals, too, were great (especially the new atmospheres and suns to the planets; the old atmospheres look absolutely terrible on the Blu-Rays and really bug me, they legit just look like big blue lines). I loved the new destruction of Alderaan and every cut/rearrangement worked for me. A lot of the new music was great, as I love prequel music. One part I especially love is the choice for both scenes with Vader when the Millennium Falcon arrives on the Death Star and the scene with Vader telling Tarkin he senses Obi-Wan, it gives this great feeling of mystery and made it much more ominous while also making them feel like more powerful and significant moments. The choice for the Millennium Falcon’s arrival is actually quite brilliant, as it’s from the part in Attack of the Clones on Tatooine (which relates to the fact that they talk about Mos Eisley) while also having the Imperial March in it which works because Vader is in the scene, and it’s music from the last time Vader was on Tatooine. The Imperial March being added for Vader’s entrance and the ending of the scene on the Tantative is also excellent. I quite enjoyed the music added to R2 being captured by the Jawas, and I never knew how well Jar Jar’s theme works with the scene with the droids when they first arrive on Tatooine until now.

However, there were times in which I either found the music choice odd (like the conference scene; I think the first track felt out of place and too loud and the second theme I feel like should be designated for the Separatists; I would’ve chosen “Palpatine’s Teachings” like Adywan did, I think the really eerie part of that piece works incredibly well with the part when Vader chokes Motti) or felt like it was overbearing (the “set your course to Alderaan” scene; music was too loud and I don’t feel like it fit). There were also a couple weird audio moments (the music can be heard when Luke says that Anakin was “just a navigator…”, and some of the audio transitions during the trimmed Mos Eisley entrance were jarring, though the visual cuts were great), and while I love the idea of having the guy who tells Tarkin that the rebel base isn’t on Dantooine being a hologram, you can still hear the door opening and Vader is clearly looking at where the guy’s supposed to be. Hologram looks great though.

Still, this is probably my favorite version of ANH released thus far. It’s a great modernization and feels much more at home with Rogue One and the prequels for me.

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#1424329
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Idea: OT Edits to Fit the PT and/or the Larger Saga (A Resource Thread, Hopefully)
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That was when he lost me. The fact that the people he was afraid of losing were both women is a coincidence. He was born without a father and Padme is his wife so of course he’s afraid of losing her. He was also concerned for his children too, which he did not know for sure was male or female. It’s not that they’re women, it’s how attached he was to them.

It’s as if he completely forgets about Palpatine, who was just as responsible for Anakin’s fall. Just like how he forgot that Leia wasn’t the only one of Luke’s friends he was concerned about.

His whole channel is overanalyzing things in the search for misogyny where none exists.

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#1424097
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Idea: OT Edits to Fit the PT and/or the Larger Saga (A Resource Thread, Hopefully)
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But starting Jedi training young has important narrative function. They do that so the younglings don’t have a chance to form attachments to their parents (or anybody else) and be taught from the start to not be attached. The reason why they said Anakin was too old to be trained was because he was attached to his mother.

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#1418934
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The <strong>Original Trilogy</strong> Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Peter Pan said:

I don’t really know where to put my question, so I decided to drop it in here.
Does somebody know of a fan edit of ESB that does a decent job at removing Han’s predatorily behavior towards Leia?
And if not and if somebody has ideas to work around this issue with their romance, I would love to hear and discuss them, because its something I thought of sometimes without getting anywhere really.

What exactly was predatory?

What’s actually going on is that Han knows Leia has feelings for him and it’s obvious, but Leia is denying it.

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#1417253
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RocketJump's Video on Star Wars &quot;being saved in the edit&quot; is Literally a Lie <em>(*no, it is not)</em>
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oojason said:

1h 48m 40s into that 2 hour video you plugged on here.

He never bashes the fan restorations though, right after RJ brings up the restorations he just goes and comments on how some fans want to take away all of Lucas’ accomplishments because they were dissatisfied with the special editions and prequels.

oojason said:

De Palma? He is also on record as saying the crawl didn’t make any sense at all - ‘gibberish’ (?), kidding Lucas about the Force etc, what’s going on around here, that he didn’t understand the story, who are these people, who’s the hairy guy, etc’. “But you have to understand, we used to look at each other’s movies in order to be helpful. We might say some things that weren’t nice.” - De Palma also admits his harsh criticisms didn’t always go down well for some, yet Lucas never took offense to his remarks about the movie.

Isn’t the audio footage used by RJ from the HBO doc on Spielberg? Spielberg actually doing his De Palma impression? (it has been a long time since I watched it; I think it is - though could be wrong).

So, no… the RJ video did not lie.

He gave an impression that the rough cut was universally hated when De Palma was the only one with problems.

oojason said:

They simply quoted Richard Chew, from ‘The Making Of Star Wars’ book by Rinzler, as saying:-

“In the first five minutes we were hitting everybody with more information they could handle. There were too many storylines to keep straight: the robots and the princess, Vader, Luke. So we simplified it by taking Luke and Biggs out”.

This is quite strange… as apparently ‘The Making Of Star Wars’ book by Rinzler is a trusted and “peer-written published material” for you… yet now it is a lie? Huh, interesting that.

So, no… the RJ video did not lie.

The Making of Star Wars isn’t a lie nor is that quote, and I never said it was. What happened is that RJ conveniently left out parts of that quote that come immediately before and after it that prove that it was Lucas’ decision to cut those Luke scenes, not the editors. Nerdonymous literally shows the full quotes in his video.

oojason said:

they lied about the reasons the Death Star scenes were moved later

The conference scene on board the Death Star? What exactly is your reason for claiming that RocketJump ‘lied’ to be?

Seems it simply made more sense to the story to re-arrange those scenes, yes?

If you watched the video you would know that it’s proven through The Making of Star Wars by Rinzler that the reason those scenes were rearranged was not for story purposes, it was strictly for the reason that Scorsese thought there was too much exposition in the beginning. It wasn’t because the original arrangement made no sense.