Does anyone have a usable Coruscant planet-view image or shot to be added in some space shots (for my Ep.V edit)?
You mean like this?
So Coruscant is going to be in your version of ESB? I’m excited already!!!
That line was referencing a deleted scene in which Obi-Wan talked to Padme about his worries about Anakin (which would’ve actually been a great scene from what I read in the script had it been left in; the dialogue is actually fantastic, you can read it on Internet Movie Script Database), not Obi-Wan and Padme having an affair.
In the novel that delves into what Palpatine made Anakin think what was going on, it wasn’t an affair either: he was trying to convince him that the Delegation of 2000 and the Jedi were teaming up to overthrow the Republic.
I’ve just realized, why is it that when the Millenium Falcon enters and leaves the Death Star, the shield is still on? I love that the shield was added for continuity and it looks great, but shouldn’t it turn off when the Falcon enters and leaves?
Edit TPM so Shmi says Watto is Anakin’s father
I highly enjoyed this edit. The color grading was fantastic, I love that the blaster bolts were updated to match the prequels, and the lightsabers were also vastly improved. A lot of the other new visuals, too, were great (especially the new atmospheres and suns to the planets; the old atmospheres look absolutely terrible on the Blu-Rays and really bug me, they legit just look like big blue lines). I loved the new destruction of Alderaan and every cut/rearrangement worked for me. A lot of the new music was great, as I love prequel music. One part I especially love is the choice for both scenes with Vader when the Millennium Falcon arrives on the Death Star and the scene with Vader telling Tarkin he senses Obi-Wan, it gives this great feeling of mystery and made it much more ominous while also making them feel like more powerful and significant moments. The choice for the Millennium Falcon’s arrival is actually quite brilliant, as it’s from the part in Attack of the Clones on Tatooine (which relates to the fact that they talk about Mos Eisley) while also having the Imperial March in it which works because Vader is in the scene, and it’s music from the last time Vader was on Tatooine. The Imperial March being added for Vader’s entrance and the ending of the scene on the Tantative is also excellent. I quite enjoyed the music added to R2 being captured by the Jawas, and I never knew how well Jar Jar’s theme works with the scene with the droids when they first arrive on Tatooine until now.
However, there were times in which I either found the music choice odd (like the conference scene; I think the first track felt out of place and too loud and the second theme I feel like should be designated for the Separatists; I would’ve chosen “Palpatine’s Teachings” like Adywan did, I think the really eerie part of that piece works incredibly well with the part when Vader chokes Motti) or felt like it was overbearing (the “set your course to Alderaan” scene; music was too loud and I don’t feel like it fit). There were also a couple weird audio moments (the music can be heard when Luke says that Anakin was “just a navigator…”, and some of the audio transitions during the trimmed Mos Eisley entrance were jarring, though the visual cuts were great), and while I love the idea of having the guy who tells Tarkin that the rebel base isn’t on Dantooine being a hologram, you can still hear the door opening and Vader is clearly looking at where the guy’s supposed to be. Hologram looks great though.
Still, this is probably my favorite version of ANH released thus far. It’s a great modernization and feels much more at home with Rogue One and the prequels for me.
This edit is now on IFDB! If you’ve seen it, please leave a review!
I’m really excited for this edit to be finished
Hi all, I’m looking for a link to xxtelecine 7xx edits of the original trilogy anyone have these versions?
I have ANH and ROTJ
That was when he lost me. The fact that the people he was afraid of losing were both women is a coincidence. He was born without a father and Padme is his wife so of course he’s afraid of losing her. He was also concerned for his children too, which he did not know for sure was male or female. It’s not that they’re women, it’s how attached he was to them.
It’s as if he completely forgets about Palpatine, who was just as responsible for Anakin’s fall. Just like how he forgot that Leia wasn’t the only one of Luke’s friends he was concerned about.
His whole channel is overanalyzing things in the search for misogyny where none exists.
But starting Jedi training young has important narrative function. They do that so the younglings don’t have a chance to form attachments to their parents (or anybody else) and be taught from the start to not be attached. The reason why they said Anakin was too old to be trained was because he was attached to his mother.
Is this available?
I don’t really know where to put my question, so I decided to drop it in here.
Does somebody know of a fan edit of ESB that does a decent job at removing Han’s predatorily behavior towards Leia?
And if not and if somebody has ideas to work around this issue with their romance, I would love to hear and discuss them, because its something I thought of sometimes without getting anywhere really.
What exactly was predatory?
What’s actually going on is that Han knows Leia has feelings for him and it’s obvious, but Leia is denying it.
Nice to see another Ash Platt fan, what a legend
What was wrong with the added clone dialogue on Utapau?
Thank you so much I’m naming my son after you
1h 48m 40s into that 2 hour video you plugged on here.
He never bashes the fan restorations though, right after RJ brings up the restorations he just goes and comments on how some fans want to take away all of Lucas’ accomplishments because they were dissatisfied with the special editions and prequels.
De Palma? He is also on record as saying the crawl didn’t make any sense at all - ‘gibberish’ (?), kidding Lucas about the Force etc, what’s going on around here, that he didn’t understand the story, who are these people, who’s the hairy guy, etc’. “But you have to understand, we used to look at each other’s movies in order to be helpful. We might say some things that weren’t nice.” - De Palma also admits his harsh criticisms didn’t always go down well for some, yet Lucas never took offense to his remarks about the movie.
Isn’t the audio footage used by RJ from the HBO doc on Spielberg? Spielberg actually doing his De Palma impression? (it has been a long time since I watched it; I think it is - though could be wrong).
So, no… the RJ video did not lie.
He gave an impression that the rough cut was universally hated when De Palma was the only one with problems.
They simply quoted Richard Chew, from ‘The Making Of Star Wars’ book by Rinzler, as saying:-
“In the first five minutes we were hitting everybody with more information they could handle. There were too many storylines to keep straight: the robots and the princess, Vader, Luke. So we simplified it by taking Luke and Biggs out”.
This is quite strange… as apparently ‘The Making Of Star Wars’ book by Rinzler is a trusted and “peer-written published material” for you… yet now it is a lie? Huh, interesting that.
So, no… the RJ video did not lie.
The Making of Star Wars isn’t a lie nor is that quote, and I never said it was. What happened is that RJ conveniently left out parts of that quote that come immediately before and after it that prove that it was Lucas’ decision to cut those Luke scenes, not the editors. Nerdonymous literally shows the full quotes in his video.
they lied about the reasons the Death Star scenes were moved later
The conference scene on board the Death Star? What exactly is your reason for claiming that RocketJump ‘lied’ to be?
Seems it simply made more sense to the story to re-arrange those scenes, yes?
If you watched the video you would know that it’s proven through The Making of Star Wars by Rinzler that the reason those scenes were rearranged was not for story purposes, it was strictly for the reason that Scorsese thought there was too much exposition in the beginning. It wasn’t because the original arrangement made no sense.
You know, that would actually make the ending of ESB like the ending of AOTC, and suddenly the problem with that film’s climactic encounter becomes a lot more clear.
Because it doesn’t have a plot twist?
Not trying to say AOTC is as good as ESB (far from it) I’m just trying to figure out what you mean.
I did , but nice attempt at gaslighting , go find another victim , your not fooling anyone .
Oh no guys, I linked a well researched video contradicting misinformation, that means I’m committing psychological abuse, call the police everyone (:
^ LMFAO ! That is the very book that Rocketjump showed at the end of his video .
Except RocketJump cherrypicked it and conveniently left out the quotes that disprove the ideas that they propagate throughout the video.
Maybe watch the video I linked in the OP before talking.
“but I’m going to trust actual peer-written published material” G&G Fan , do you have a link to this peer written published material ?
Yep, here you go!
https://www.amazon.com/Making-Star-Wars-Definitive-Original/dp/0345494768
Also I’d like you to point out where exactly he keeps contradicting himself by saying the rough cut is bad. He does have a central point: that the rough cut is not as bad as the video makes it out to be and the editors aren’t the only reason the movie is good.
The only reason you think he’s contradicting himself is because he’s saying that the changes the editors made really weren’t all that big and it works either way. He thinks that both the way the rough cut and the final cut did it is fine. I don’t recall him saying “Thank god the director removed the Luke scenes”.
The whole “rough cuts are usually bad” tangent was saying that even if the rough cut was truly awful, that wouldn’t be unusual.
So in summing it up… even after
watchingsitting through that 2-hour video linked by G&G-Fan, the RocketJump video is not “literally a lie”, or anything like it.
It is though. They lied about George editing the rough cut (he didn’t; and before you say that they never said Goerge edited the rough cut, it’s heavily implied and it’s what I and everybody else thought upon initially seeing the video), they lied about the reactions of the people who watched the rough cut, they lied about the editors being the ones to decide to remove the early Luke scenes, they lied about the reasons the Death Star scenes were moved later and framed the original arrangement as absolutely ridiculous when in reality, sometimes they actually did work (like having the scene with Vader torturing Leia right after the plea for help), and straight up lied that Marcia Lucas came up with the idea that the Death Star was going to destroy the Rebel base. Many times they credit the editors for “ingenious ideas” and it simply isn’t true.
And if you want to claim that The Making of Star Wars and all of the others books written about the production of Star Wars he referenced (which were all written by people OTHER then George Lucas) are lies and there’s massive conspiracy going on, then fine, but I’m going to trust actual peer-written published material over “Dude(s) trust me”. I guess all of those scripts are lies too. But the 12 minute video that barely bothers to pull quotes, that’s the stuff!
…Does Nerdonymous think that the bloopers should have remained in the movie? I’d really like an explanation from Servii and G&G-Fan for why they think this guy isn’t (pardon my French) a fucking moron.
I’ll probably respond more to this later, but since this one is obvious, I’ll just say it right now. He’s being sarcastic. No, he doesn’t think the bloopers should’ve remained in the movie. He’s pointing out that it isn’t “ingenious” of the editors that they didn’t use those takes.
When did he bash fan preservations?
Well in this case it’s because it takes the time to show and pull direct quotes from the books being referenced for research
I remember watching that video awhile ago and actually thinking it was cool and informative and it’s used all over the place to try and prove the whole “George Lucas bad” campaign.
Then I came across this video. This really well-researched and thought out video that actually has credible sources and shows them really well… and it basically proves that RocketJump’s video is a bunch of lying, bias nonsense with misdirection and misinformation across the board.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olqVGz6mOVE - (Mod Edit: a 2 hour video from the Nerdonymous youtube channel, titled ‘How “How Star Wars was saved in the edit” was saved in the edit (sort of, but not really)’).
So uh, yeah… Goerge Lucas didn’t suck and it wasn’t the editors that created Star Wars.
Sorry.
Mod Edit - 15th March: for clarity and a forewarning… the Nerdonymous video states the RocketJump video is “simply an attempt to discredit George Lucas” - and spends 2 hours attempting to discredit the RJ video in an abrupt, mocking and patronising manner - along with showing animals repeatedly defecating in it. The Nerdonymous video is aimed at appealing to pro-George Lucas fans out there, takes aim at OT fan preservations and later claims some fans “they want to burn him (Lucas) to the ground” & “they want to take everything away from him (Lucas)”.
The RocketJump video is… ‘‘A video essay exploring how Star Wars’ editors recut and rearranged Star Wars: A New Hope to create the cinematic classic it became’ and is about the power and effects of film editing in general. The RJ video does feature a few factual errors - though some of Nerdanyomous claims and statements in his video are obviously nothing to do with RocketJump… but his issues with fans he considers not to like George Lucas - or fans seemingly acknowledging or praising others’ contributions to the making of the Original Trilogy.
“I think George’s ‘ace in the hole’ was that he surrounded himself with an incredible team of people to work with, and listening and collaborating with them to help refine his incredible vision.”
^ The RocketJump video in summing up - which not only applies to the editing of the film - but also the overall making of Star Wars itself. (Not forgetting, of course, that near-on all films are ‘made’ / ‘saved’ in the editing process.)
The RJ video does NOT claim that ‘George Lucas sucks’ - or anything like, nor that ‘the editors created Star Wars’ - as the OP stated.