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- #1367918
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- Revenge of the Sith: Rebalanced - <em>Version 1.4 Released! IFDB Approved!</em>
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1367918/action/topic#1367918
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May I have the link please? Thanks! š
May I have the link please? Thanks! š
Add all of these to the entire saga
What episodes are included in this edit btw?
May I have the link please?
We do get some idea that he wanted to be a Jedi, when he said āI had a dream I was a Jedi. I came back and freed all the slaves.ā
Replace Palpatineās speech in Revenge of the Sith with this
Absolutely epic, canāt wait, mostly for ROTS.
Uh, these edits were released 15 years ago already. I donāt even know if there are any working links anymore.
Oh wow, ok Iām stupid lol. This was the most recent thread at the time. I apologize.
I like some of your ideas here. Iām interested in seeing your version of Vaderās no. Iām not sure why youāre removing Palpatine saying heās weak though. Heās not actually (as shown when he immediately uses force lightning after Maceās hand is chopped off), itās his way of manipulating Anakin into helping him. Him appearing helpless is key in Anakinās decision to stop Mace, as itās against the Jedi way to kill an unarmed man. Maceās hypocrisy to the code that has emotionally enslaved Anakin for years is the straw that breaks the camelās back.
Besides the 5 listed on the first post do you know of any other changes from the SD version?
As a concept, Iām totally on board with it š
I think Palpatineās lines are still a tad too low (though easy to understand š ). The rotoscoping for the medical droid is nice but to me it looks a bit clear itās a slowed down shot.The audio is good for me. The one transition that felt a bit strange was from PadmĆ©ās gasping to Palpatineās weird breath thing, perhaps because of thereās a sudden increase in volume at that point.
Other than that, this was surprisingly solid! Nice job!
PD: Hereās a cleaner version of that same Vader scream, itās the french dub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfGkPvfpjVY
Yeah, Iām going to fix the problem with Palpatineās lines. Thanks regarding the rotoscoping, I spent hours on it so Iām glad to see itās not gone unrecognized. It does bother me that itās clearly slowed down but Iām not sure what Iād do about that, itās literally the only usable shot of the 21B in existence (unless I want it facing backwards away from the camera).
Hmmmm, Iām not really sure what Iād do about the increase in volume, as it goes from playing one sound effect to three. Maybe I could try some more fades or turning down the volume on one.
Thanks, Iāve been kinda stressing about trying to perfect it, as unrealistic of a goal it might be I donāt want it to stick out like a sore thumb. I really hope I can make something fluent that a lot of people like.
I was actually aware of that. The problem is though is that the original version of the French dub doesnāt sound like Vader, it just sounds like a regular dude. The edit I linked earlier they did something to make it sound like Vader which I really like, I just donāt know how to replicate it.
The Russian dub sounds pretty good, so I may use that. It sounds more like a scream of anguish then a no, which I like. Iād rather have that or a Vader-ified French one in which the NOOOOO sounds more painful and natural as in my opinion, itās not so much the line as it is the delivery.
Is there any chance you could change Vaderās āNO!ā with a foreign dub?
Hmmmmm, which one would you recommend? I tried using this one which I really liked but I couldnāt separate it from the baby cries.
https://youtu.be/8Krtzj0SX-Q?t=205
Other then that, what do you think of the scene? Do you think itās ready to be in the film?
Second draft of ROTS new Padme death/Vader birth. Improved the rotoscoping on the 21B droid, made Palps louder and added some more sound effects.
May I have the links to the darthrush and Spence final editās of Return of the Jedi please, if anyone can help me with that?
First draft of Padmeās new death
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCHuthekU04
Feedback is very much appreciated (though I have already noticed that Palpatineās line are a little too quiet, so I have remedied that in my editing program; so no need to comment on it).
Sweet! Yeah I just read thorough your SW 6 film edit and am excited to see where that goes as well. Always nice to see edits of ANH include the Scene 38 recreation. Also really intrigued to see how the Jar Jar dub is pulled off in full movie length.
Definitely want to see you get the SW one done, since Iām a bigger SW fan lol. But cant wait to see what you can pull off with this project, since I feel the Heisei series as a lot of potential to be something really great, if tweaked a bit.
You said you did an edit of 54? Can I get a PM of that? Would love to check it out!
Epic, Iām glad you agree with me about Scene 38. I love how it does Darth Vader justice. The new Vader comics show him to be incredibly powerful and the best lightsaber duelist ever, and the films should be consistent with that IMO. And my Phantom Menace edit is already done, so it technically already has been pulled off.
Do you have any suggestions for either the Star Wars or Heisei edits? You seem very hyped for them and I always love to hear suggestions and feedback. If you have something in mind Iād like to address it.
Yes, my edit of 54 is called āThis is Tokyoā. It combines the original Japanese version with the American version. Thereās a thread here about it. Iāll PM you the link, as well as the link for the Star Wars edits.
Any update on this? The Heisei series is my all time favorite, and this full on fanedit sounds incredible. Cutting the first two movies together especially, since I also find the first one to be a drag to watch through on a marathon.
Iām glad to see that you think it sounds great. Itās always nice to see that some are excited for a project, it greatly improves my morale to actually see to it that it gets done.
Admittedly I havenāt been working on this much as Iāve been focusing more on other projects (my dinosaur documentary project and my Star Wars edits), but once Iām done with my Revenge of the Sith edit then Iāll start working on this.
I have been starting to doubt whether Iāll actually be able to effectively combine Return of Godzilla and Biollante, as it will mess with continuity quite a bit. Maybe instead of combining them in a way that makes it seem like theyāre happening at the same time (as I originally thought), Iāll edit it so a heavily cut-down 84 acts as like a prologue at the beginning (there is something like that in the actual opening of Biollante but this one would be more expansive), still taking place 5 years before. Godzilla would still look different but not really much I can do about that.
I may also offer two options: one edit of 84 and Biollante combined into one film and another option in which they are still separate movies. I will trim down 84 to pick up the pace (and probably even add the American scenes of Raymond Burr like I did with my 54 edit, because Steve Martin is awesome), and have a separate Biollante fan-edit that still makes a lot of the changes I was going to for that movie:
-Cut the scene where Gondo talks about the prime minister not believing the psychic children. Thereās literally an institute designated for psychic children and the prime minister doesnāt even believe they exist?
-Cut the scene where Kirishima and Azuka talk about making the bacteria at night time. This scene really doesnāt give us any new information and I feel like the first half of this movie takes too long to get started.
-Cut the part where Miki draws Rose Biollante. It ruins any suspense and surprise of seeing Biollante for the first time.
-Cut all of the scenes that split the battle between Godzilla and the Super X II, removing that terrible shot of Godzillaās head rising from the water, removing excess fat, and not stopping the momentum of the film.
-The scene where Doctor Shiragami talks to the news woman and when he, Miki, and Azuka realize Erika is no longer in Biollante is moved after the battle with Godzilla and the Super X II.
-After Miki says āBiollante was calling out to Godzilla!ā it cuts to the shot of Godzilla walking to Lake Ashi at night with added sound effects, as the music playing during the clip is continued from the scene that I cut below.
-As a result, the scene of the military getting into position before the first fight is removed.
-Cut the two times Godzilla completely misses Biollante by a long shot with his atomic breath near the end of the fight. Like seriously, itās as if he intentionally missed! Whatās the point?
-Cut the scene with the helicopters after the first fight.
-Cut the entire subplot of āWe sent everything to Isle Bay and Godzilla actually appeared in Osaka!ā as it just convoluted the film. It doesnāt even need to exist for the plot to make sense, and it takes focus away from the much more interesting subplot of Miki trying to change Godzillaās direction with her telepathy.
-Cut the part where Azuka makes the soldiers leave the platform. Itās probably the most illogical thing in this movie. Why would you get rid of your own protection and transport? And you really think that youāre more qualified to be in such a dangerous situation then trained soldiers?!
This way people who like 84 a lot wonāt be left out. I do think it has itās good parts, but the pace needs to be picked up.
I donāt think thatās necessary, the scene needs to stay a personal exchange between Anakin and Luke, adding more characters would break the mood of the moment. Unless you make it extremely subtle and short, like a blink-and-youāll-miss-it shadow.
Sorry for not replying sooner, but yeah, I agree, I wonāt include this and Iāll leave it the way it is.
Iām pretty much done with the first draft of Padmeās edited death, but does anybody know of a time when Yoda says āthe living forceā? Iām trying to construct a line from him that goes āLosing the living force, she is. The work of the Sith, this must be.ā by using words from different clips of Yoda speaking.
Just curious, is this issue where Vaderās helmet is messed up going to be fixed?
Working on new Padme death for ROTS. Hereās the 21B droid telling Palpatine that somethingās up. Had to roto in a small clip from ESB and extend it the best I could, since the close-up lasts like less then 2 seconds.
I was going to try rotoscoping in Palpatine when he does his low growls during the knighting of Vader as a way of representing him doing the ātaking life to give lifeā ritual, but itās hard to get it to look right with all the hair and it does screw a bit with the continuity (as heās wearing his red chancellor robes instead of black Sidious robes), so Iām thinking Iāll just insert a VO using Clone Wars dialogue.
You can see the wrinkles and red shadows around the eyes form too, and he starts to look more grey
Have you considered incorporating the popular fan-theory in Revenge of the Sith that Palpatine drained the living force from Padme and gave it to Vader? I think itās a great way to show how Palpatine obviously never wanted to actually help Anakin save Padme, and it makes perfect sense: he wants Padme out of the equation.
I know itās something I would like to do for my ROTS edit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUunFoQBJsE
Adding something like this to my Return of the Jedi edit, yay or nay?
Sounds like an awesome idea. I always loved dinosaurs and paleontology as a kid, and I watched Walking With Dinosaurs over and over again. But that documentary is a bit outdated now, and Iād love to see an updated version, especially with the impressive team youāve assembled so far.
Thanks, I totally agree with you. Iāll be posting updates on this thread for anyone who wants to stay in the loop with this project.
Happened to find this on YouTube, it makes me wonder if I could possibly include this in my ANH edit in place of the Jabba scene if I can get it in good quality. I think it might help in my goal of giving Vader his own agenda.