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Anjohan said:

I’m not following. You mean the emperor’s theme?

No I mean this

https://youtu.be/ZK52tEenER8?t=403

jrs81 said:

Wanted to make an opening suggestion with a pretty bold idea. Forgive the rough edit, just through this together quickly. Needed a star field and keeping in line with TESB and ROTJ, I wanted to open this Obi-Wan movie from an imperial perspective. I imagine a scroll with something like this:

"Darth Vader continues his search for Obi-Wan and has created his own personal Jedi Hunters, Inquisitors.
The ambitious THIRD SISTER has come up with her own secret plan to find KENOBI…

https://vimeo.com/716590202

Also includes a new introduction to Leia.

Link doesn’t work

One thing you could do to modernize this movie is to use the version of the throne room theme from the ROTS soundtrack.

Dude this looks great, I’m really excited! I love the color grade and I’m all for blending the originals and the prequels.

So you were probably dreading this question, but are you gonna use SC 38 Reimagined?

That moment is when the audience learns that the Chancellor is moving to take control of the Jedi council.

Zendaya is the most gorgeous woman on Earth

ATMachine said:

during the OT the idea was that lightsabers were heavy like European broadswords and required two hands.

Vader used one hand all the time wdym

BedeHistory731 said:

Unpopular opinion: the ROTS suit is my second-favorite Vader design, behind the '77 suit.

The ROTS one is actually my fav.

The new Darth Vader suit looks superb. I can’t wait to see it in action.

jedi_bendu said:

MalaStrana#2 said:

I also note on the marketing material that Reva is always in the center. I have a very bad feeling about this character.

Why? She’s not even on the official poster. This is the Obi-wan Kenobi series, after all.

Because it’s obvious they’re gonna do another stupid, generic, cliche imperial redemption arc like almost everything else. They did it in Rebels, Battlefront 2, Squadrons, and Fallen Order. It’s getting annoying.

It’s like Disney doesn’t realize that part of the reason Vader is so iconic, unique, and great of a character is because his redemption. It was surprising. It was new and interesting to have a villain turn good. You shouldn’t do it for every freakin’ villain.

I don’t get why they created her. If you’re throwing in new inquisitors at least give them interesting designs or something. Introduce some new cool aliens instead of having every main character be human. Or how about just having it be about Obi-Wan and Vader? No need for a boring predictable inquisitor redemption arc.

I also just think it’d be way better to keep the stark look and feel of the Death Star scenes rather then having a nice pretty bright planet in the background.

Octorox said:

I think Hal’s said that continuity errors don’t bother him if they were in the film originally. Doesn’t the pre-SE shot have Yavin IV in it too or am I misremembering?

It didn’t

I’ve never liked it when prequel edits try to make Palpatine being Sidious less obvious. I feel like that’s actually something positive about the prequels. It’s the whole Hitchcock “tension is better then surprise” kinda thing. It’s more thrilling to see the villain being there working behind the scenes the whole time and the characters not suspecting anything. It allows the audience to admire Palpatine for his planning, manipulation and two-faced nature. I’d rather have more character development for Palpatine then a surprise.

There’s not really any way Lucas could’ve done it without it being obvious anyway. It’s the same actor. He’s the old guy who becomes Chancellor. Of course it’s the Emperor. Lucas isn’t JJ Abrams, he doesn’t try to make everything into a cheap surprise. So he chose to ring out the tension and show Ian McDiarmid’s strength as an actor.

I love the new crawl, but I’m still in favor of keeping the original intro. I think that just makes it go too fast, plus the original intro is such a perfect introduction to the Jedi and what they do. It shows how their typical job is diplomatic, that their job is peaceful negotiation, but they will fight if necessary, and are skilled warriors when provoked into action. It shows off their powers and their skills with lightsabers. I’d also hate to lose the part where Qui-Gon melts the metal door with his saber (so cool; for some reason I find the sound effect of the saber cutting the door really pleasing to the ear, like the seismic charges in AOTC).

I could go for one that cuts it shorter. I can try it myself.

Master Lawdog said:

I’m curious if anyone is going to request having Vader’s eyebrows back.

Why? The lack of eyebrows makes more sense. Even in just the context of the OT Vader was always supposed to have gotten a lava bath.

Ok but Empire Strikes Back and Revenge of the Sith are two of the most loved Star Wars movies in the community and they’re the most dark and depressing ones.

Read the 2017 Vader comics. Once you do you’ll realize how much story potential that era has, especially for Darth Vader. It was him at his prime, when he was younger and actually fought people that were somewhere near his league. It’s also a great opportunity to explore his inner psyche. I’d kill to see that in a film. Hell, straight up make a movie adaptation of the Fortress Vader story arc (which in my opinion is by far the best Star Wars story not in the movies, and I’d say it’s better then most of the movies). That’s literally the perfect Vader story.

If the logos matter so much to you edit it in yourself. There’s no need to be this nitpicky about it. I don’t need to get emails about logo discussion.

I hope so, I like it. It’s not too intrusive and it makes it look more interesting.

But the trends of the edit and the editor tell me no. And if that is I won’t mind too much.

My personal favorite is the red AOTC plans, because I like the prequels and also it’s consistent with Lucas’ use of red in association with the villains (which is why I also like it when people change the display C-3PO shows of the tractor beam controls to red). White is a color more associated with the heroes (because you know, black/red devil, white angel? It’s been there since the beginning). It’s a part of Lucas’ symbolic color coding. The AOTC hologram also looks way more advanced and interesting to look at. And it’s consistent with ESB graphics that can be seen in the background that are also red.

I have a feeling tho that the HD version won’t have the red AOTC plans considering Adywan’s personal preferences, and if that’s the case then I can just use the upscaled clips of the SD version from telecine’s edit.

Is it bad that I’m more excited for Darth Vader then anything else?

IlFanEditore said:

Excuse me, does anyone have a link for telecine’s ROTJ edit? The remade blaster bolts and lightsabers would make me spare so much time…

I do, check your PMs

I actually love the idea. I have thought it would be cool if the throne room battle took place in the Emperor’s throne room on Coruscant, the only problem being that then there wouldn’t be a reactor for Vader to throw the Emperor in.

I don’t think the Imperial fleet was weak at all, the fleet was huge. They were ordered not to attack because of the Emperor’s arrogance and overconfidence. And I don’t care about TROS (it’s not a part of my canon) and I don’t really see how it would conflict with the prequels.

It’s also important to see how Palpatine became Chancellor. The second plotline of the prequels is Palpatine’s rise to power, you need to see how he became Chancellor because that’s such an important step.

The Republic’s corruption also needs to be introduced, as well as Anakin’s slave past, his mother, and the Jedi Council and how controversial it was that he become a Jedi.

Because you’re being unnecessarily nitpicky to the point of annoyance.

It shouldn’t be too hard to remove the music with 6 channel audio

paja said:

Quick and dirty mockup incorporating the deleted scene of Luke in the cave with R2 into the Dagobah scene.

(Placing this earlier before Jabba’s palace and removing Luke’s lightsaber to keep the reveal later on)

This is amazing! You should post it in the ROTJ community focus month thread. Are you gonna make a video of it?

RogueLeader said:

When I did a rough edit of ROTJ years ago that did this restructure, I had Luke say to Yoda, “Why didn’t you tell me?” The idea being that Yoda confirmed the fact offscreen sometime between the films, but now before Yoda dies, Luke is wanting to understand why he chose not to tell him.

I could see an edit skipping that by having Yoda say something like, “Unfortunate it is, that Vader told you.” It kinda of implies they’ve already talked about it, and Yoda is just lamenting how this complicates their final confrontation.

I also can see how one might wonder why Obi-Wan hasn’t appeared to Luke yet if he’s been on Dagobah all that time, but we know Obi-Wan can commune with Luke on different planets and in space, so I think that question is there either way you cut it.

That last thing is true, hadn’t thought about it that way really.

Those sound like good ideas. Because I do quite like the restructuring idea, it makes the opening act less separate from the rest of the film and gives Luke more training to be as experienced as he is.

SWOTFAN25 said:

Ah yes! The “Palpatine’s Teachings” addition to ANH:R is absolutely fantastic. However, having the Imperial March in ANH is definitely a no for me. I’d love to see IlFanEditore’s addition though.

Since this is a ROTJ discussion, I know that the music at the end of the film is definitely up for debate. Of course we have the original and special addition tracks. But could there be a third track that we could use that may be superior to both? I came across this video awhile back which might spark an idea or two.

https://youtu.be/uaEwlu72BVo

I’d love to have the Imperial march in ANH but ok.

I honestly much prefer the original score to Anakin’s funeral to the alternate. It sounds more whimsical and has a hint of sadness in it which makes it incredibly fitting for a funeral. It’s a tearjerker. The alternate one sounds more bombastic, like a celebration.