Ohhh, they wear really overly long shorts now? Hmm. I guess I've just been encased in a block of carbonite over the past decade and a half or so. I could have sworn shorty shorts were the "in" thing for basketball players.
Do basketball players not wear those kinds of uniforms anymore? I don't know much about basketball... Maybe I should wait to bring this up in the interview...
Hmm. Is it too late to call my agent...?
Guess I'll just wait here in the greenroom...
TV's Frink said:
I'm not really a big Gaffer fan anyway. I'll probably just watch the opening monologue.
*sniff* That's alright. I underst-----*sobbbbbbb*
Alright. Bills are paid. New license plate is acquired. Here I am!
Alright. Special guest needs to run to the post office and mail his gas bill. THE EXCITEMENT NEVER ENDS!!! After that, I shall be free for whatever shenanigans you wish to throw at me.
Hi, I'm Gaffer Tape, and, sigh, I'm used to people misspelling my name, but usually in real life where my name is complicated and foreign-sounding.
Edmund Stanislaus Rumowicz. Yeah, I can see people misspelling that.
Gaffer Tape. Sheesh. Come on!
Warbler said:
I felt was ok to have two-face in the movie, and his creation was handled very well. But why did they have to kill him off? They should have left the two-arc at the point where Dent was in the hospital bed mentally turning into Two-Face. Two-Face could have been the main villain in the 3rd movie. Other than that, I think the Dark Knight was great. I think there should only be 1 villain per movie.
Like I said, I'm rather glad they killed him off. I think his descent into villainy was far more interesting than a Two-Face crime spree would have been. So it just would have been a let down. Besides the fact that his objectives had mostly been accomplished at this point. He was mourning Rachel (oh, and the fact that Harvey actually validated the existence of the character of Rachel Dawes also earned so many points in my book as well) and getting his revenge by giving those responsible a 50/50 chance as well. What else was there for him to do? I think if he had taken the next movie solo, he would have overstayed his welcome, so I just love the way they did it in The Dark Knight.
Really? I felt the opposite, C3PX. I loved how they handled Two-Face, and I think it's my favorite portrayal of the character ever. With Joker they had a premade villain who got to do his villain thing the entire movie. But by making Harvey the secondary villain, they really had a chance to spend the whole movie showing how he got there. If he had been the only villain, they wouldn't have been able to get away with such a deep story for him. I wasn't even disappointed that the payoff was so short. It fit his character and what they'd been building up for that it was still satisfying to me. It's like I always said: I was expected to be impressed with The Joker, but it was Harvey who surprisingly stole the show for me.
Hmm, as far as Lando goes, does he even consistently "add" to the series? That's not to say I don't love Lando. He certainly added a unique quality to ESB: an ally you're not sure you can trust who does do what he thinks is right for the people he is responsible for but doesn't necessarily overlap with what's right for the heroes. But does he really "add" anything to ROTJ? Again, I love Lando's section of the film, but, like a lot of the other returning characters, he's basically given a good-guy thing to do and does it, so I can't say he really added anything in that one, any more than I can say Han really added anything to ROTJ.
Gaffer Tape said:
Yeesh, girls always thinking I care about seeing them in their undergarments. My life just sucks that way... =P
Ohhhh! You say one thing, but you actually mean something completely different! I get it! It's very funny! It's like the opposite of what you did say!
TV's Frink said:
Anyway, everyone knows that hot female friends hate yellow.
Not at all. She once pointed out a very hot, yellow negligee that she was wild about.
Yeesh, girls always thinking I care about seeing them in their undergarments. My life just sucks that way... =P
Sigh. Okay. It's a handsome, lemony shade of yellow. And I have a really hot female friend whose favorite color is yellow. Is that good enough for you?
Why is that? I'm actually afraid of hitting a little too close to home in light of your description of your own life, so I don't want to seem callous or (God forbid) encouraging. But you used the phrase "no life." As in, lack of quality of life. While maybe the circumstances you listed aren't the end of your world, who's to say if they're the end of someone else's world? Doesn't a complete lack of quality of life seem like a legitimate reason to not want to be alive? Again, not that I'm saying anything derogatory towards you. Hell, you might just be made of sterner stuff than others. But that said, I don't necessarily believe the threshhold of pain is linear. Some things simply matter more to some people than to others, while the opposite is also true.
But I do object to the cowardly thing. While I don't necessarily think it just for someone who is responsible for others dependent on them (young children, for example), I stand by my answer that killing oneself is not an easy thing to do. To anyone who considers suicide an easy or cowardly act, put a gun up to your head and tell me how easy it is to pull the trigger.
It's okay, bkev. I don't think Warb's twisting my words here. But I don't know what to tell you. Like our debate in the Politics thread, it's something that I can understand both sides to the issue, so it's hard for me to argue my point with you. And also like the other issue, it's something I have a strong, personal connection to and feelings about. But it's complicated. On the one hand, you could look at it like putting down a pet. They're suffering. They don't want to suffer anymore. It's selfish of the family to force the animal to continue suffering. On the other hand, the future is a ball of uncertainty, and who's to say if things won't get better? It also causes quite a bit of pain and grief for the family and friends left behind, and one might argue that's selfish. But on the other other hand, aren't people always told (in terms of careers), "You have to follow your own path, not the one that your family wants you to take, because you're the one who's going to have to live with it"? So, yeah, it's complicated.
What? Simply believing this a crapsack world with no redeeming qualities and that life isn't necessarily as precious as other people believe isn't enough of a reason? Yeah, I do see where you're coming from, but I don't think you have to be cowardly or crazy to simply not want to live. If he believes he'll find greater peace in heaven or simply by not existing at all, then I think that's a great choice for him to make.
Heh, didn't I make a "right to die" thread about six months ago?
Yes, Warbs. It is terrible to his family and friend regardless. But if someone is suffering that much and really wants to die, I think it's terrible to throw that kind of guilt in his face and force him to remain to be miserable. I honestly have quite a bit of respect for people who commit suicide. No matter what anyone tells you about it being the coward's way out, it is NOT an easy thing to do.
TheBoost said:
True, but couldt Wedge, or Niemb Niumb or someone die of old age. Or at least be decrepit? Or let Han use a cane?
Chewie and Mon Mothma are the only dead people in 50 years.
Don't forget Anakin "I have to be a martyr so the stupid, stupid fans won't get confused when that other Anakin starts showing up in movies and books" Solo.
Already an EU character, I know, but he was one of the core characters, and since Mara was already mentioned...
Well, as sad as I am that his life didn't turn out that well, it does seem like he's been off and on trying to kill himself for quite a while, so I'm actually quite pleased he finally got what he wanted.
Don't worry, Nanner. You're still awesome in your own little way. ^_~
I kid, I kid, although now that you mention this, I wonder if I might turn this thread into my fifth anniversary extravaganza in a few days... =P
Whoo-hoo! I just made the 100,000th post in Off Topic!
Everyone discuss just how awesome this is!
*noisemakers*
I can't believe no one's beaten me to the punch. On facebook today, I saw one of my friends had switched his avatar to a picture of the animated angel Gary Coleman from The Gary Coleman Show. At first I just thought he, like I, had enjoyed this rare cartoon from the '80s. It was to my horror I learned later that day that he had passed from a cerebral hemorrhage.
We will miss you indeed. I won't quote your catch phrase because I know you wouldn't appreciate it. I'll just say thanks for all the memories, and I'll miss ya, buddy.
HotRod said:
Here you go
Side by side of BTTF ending/beginning
http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2009/07/back_to_the_futures_finally_co.php
Oh, wow, that's awesome! I love this!
TV's Frink said:
xhonzi said:
heh heh... "Lance"...
Wow... there is a Lance Johnson? That was the fictional alter ego I made up for myself as a child (like Tony Danza to Tony Banta or Will Smith to Will... Smith) before I realized how doubly-phallic that was...
Really? Different Jennifer, Marty's hair is different, his voice is deeper, Doc's deliver in response to "assholes," the timing, the length of score, Biff's appearance (and makeup), the next-door neighbors' window, license plate on the truck. There's a LOT different about those scenes. =P
