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#119486
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A script for a new scene in ANH
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/119486/action/topic#119486
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It would be up to interpretation, but he's just saying it would be hard to recognize facial expressions with his helmet on. The whole expressionless face 3PO thing worked well in the movies because 3PO could portray his emotions through expressive body language. But Vader wouldn't be able to show surprise without either his voice or his body movements, and I just can't see Darth Vader raising his arms up in the air and leaning back like C-3PO would. Well... actually, I can, and it's pretty damned funny!
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#119457
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Why don't Clones need mics?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/119457/action/topic#119457
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I can't believe I never noticed that before! Good job pointing that out! I never even noticed that Luke and Han didn't use the mics either! And I don't see why all these people are getting upset about you pointing it out. At least it's original. It doesn't destroy the prequels (other things do that ^_~), but it's still fun to talk about it. All you naysayers don't have to stick around and keep talking about how it's stupid. To each his own. Maybe troops made of CG are forbidden by Galactic law to use microphones, whereas real guys in suits can do it! Hmm? You don't think so? Well, who has any better suggestions?
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#119139
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A script for a new scene in ANH
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/119139/action/topic#119139
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the main purpose of this proposed scene to work the Emperor into A New Hope? And I've heard similar ideas about trying to work Yoda in the movie as well. Okay, so, with all six of these films (and I don't really think about them as six films I-VI, but in this particular case I'll go with it) together, I admit that A New Hope does stand out as being the only movie that doesn't showcase these two characters. I won't even make my standard defense about ruining the reveal for these characters later on since we're accepting them as I-VI at the moment. But the point remains that they're not there simply because there's no reason for them to be there. They have nothing to do, and any attempt to incorporate them in would seem, in my opinion, forced. It would be the equivalent of trying to work Lando into A New Hope because it's the only movie of the original trilogy not the feature him. There would be a scene during the Death Star battle where it has Han flying away from Yavin when he suddenly gets a call from his old buddy Lando who, as it turns out, convinces Han to go back and help the Rebels. Yeah, okay, that scene sucks, but I hope my point remains the same. Forcing characters in for the sake of them being there isn't a good enough reason for them to be there. I must admit that Revenge of the Sith did a good job with that by having Jar-Jar and the other Naboo peoples stand in the background as extras during Padme's funeral. They didn't say anything and, besides Jar-Jar, were barely noticeable, and they belonged there. But there was no attempt, except with Jar-Jar, that really pointed out, "Hey, we're here! Look at us! We were in the other movies!"

So I agree with whoever said that it's a good scene from a fanfiction perspective and is cool to think about the events that transpired after Vader escaped, but they really don't belong in the actual movie.
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#119132
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Order 66
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/119132/action/topic#119132
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
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Originally posted by: greencapt
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Originally posted by: Anakin's Mannequin
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Why would they? Do you leave the hair on a cow-burger? ^_~



I think that one went just over your head Gaffer.


YUB-YUB... lol!


Gaffer Tape, step in to my office and shut the door. I've got some things to explain.

Greencapt, I think that's "Yub Nubbins" in this case.


WHOA! Oops. Guess I let that one get by me. Hehe, I guess we'll have to save that trip to your office for some other time. I'll just go hide in a corner now and pretend this encounter never happened.
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#119131
Topic
A script for a new scene in ANH
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/119131/action/topic#119131
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Yeah, but there's really no need to do it. We know that Obi-Wan is killed. We know the Death Star has been destroyed. And, you know, it just might be possible that Luke was the one who did it, too. We know Tarkin is dead. We know Vader escaped. All it does is repeat information that's been shown elsewhere. It's worse than exposition because, rather than just explaining something through dialogue instead of showing it, it would show the events and then explain it again. I'm fairly certain that in practically every movie, if a scene like that existed, it would have been the first thing to end up on the cutting room floor.
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#119127
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A revised opinion of George Lucas
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/119127/action/topic#119127
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Originally posted by: Caster
I'm aware of the laserdisc transfers, but one problem.... My DVD burner... in fact, my whole computer.... is extremely unreliable. If someone was willing to send me a DVD, that'd fix the problem...


I could be wrong, as I haven't actually picked up a set myself, but I'm pretty sure that the people on these boards do offer the movies on actual DVDs with covers they made themselves. Someone help me out here!
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#119123
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The Prequels - my personal opinion
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/119123/action/topic#119123
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Mavimao is right. I think Spider-Man 2 is an example of a movie that combined CG and more traditional effects very well. Most of the CG in that movie is either in Doc Ock's tentacles or in some landscapes in those instances where it would just be impracticle to use mechanical effects. But a lot of the movie is shot on locations in New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles. Real tentacles were built and used in as many scenes as possible. Almost every scene was shot either on location or on a traditional set. And the reasons...? One, real props and real locations look real, and that's important for the audiences to accept it. And that's why a lot of the shots from the original trilogy hold up. Those ships actually existed. It would have been possible to have actually touched them. They would be really small and wouldn't be able to fly through space, but those models actually existed, so they seemed real. Second, actors work better when they're actually playing against something real. Acting is hard enough as it is without being constantly surrounded by blue walls and talking or interacting with something that you can't even tell exists. Yes, it is possible and even necessary to learn to do in acting classes and auditions, but being able to play off of something in real environments can often bring an actor to a whole new level of technique and pull out performances he might not have known he could do. In contrast, almost every scene in the prequels had some sort of computer effect in it. Rather than build sets or creatures, George just kept his actors on the same blue stages over and over again just adding in background later. Why is building a set such a bad thing? It isn't. There was no reason why most of those scenes couldn't have been shot on an actual set. It's just laziness, and it shows. Third, just like Mavimao said, it's important to mix it up. Don't do every shot the exact same way. It keeps the audience guessing and hinders them from immediately figuring out how an effect was done. The constant CG and bluescreen in the prequels is obvious enough that you can't help but notice it.

In my opinion, CG is that special tool you keep locked away in a box only to be opened for emergencies. If it's not possible or plausible to do it any other way, then you bring out the computers. George, however, used CG as a crutch throughout the prequels, and it shows that he took the easy way out.
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#118688
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The Prequels - my personal opinion
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/118688/action/topic#118688
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Wow (have to keep this alive just a little longer). I've never seen 1776, just heard of it (and heard a recording of one of the songs), but that avatar always made me think of what I've heard about it. Maybe it's because my girlfriend identified your quote as being from that movie, but I didn't recognize William Daniels at all, and I've been watching this board since September! I still don't recognize him, but I guess that's just because I've only seen him as Mr. Feeney. Way to bring some class to the boards, Warbler!
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#118612
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The death star
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/118612/action/topic#118612
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Maybe I'm misunderstanding you (and I think I am, so I post this as a cry for help), but how do you figure that? They looped around and came out the same way they came in. However, I'm not sure how the earlier fighters got out (the "Split up and head for the surface" guys) since they obviously took an alternate route.
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#118608
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The death star
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/118608/action/topic#118608
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I pretty much agree with Starkiller over the logistics of the Death Stars. I guess it was a little bit redundant, but it never bothered me since the specifics were so different. If there had been a Death Star in all three movies, then I'd probably be a little bored. But, anyway, that's a pretty cool idea. I'm not sure how it would work, though.

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Originally posted by: Darth Simon
the redundency never really bothered me...i mean now i look at it and am like, the Empire is pretty stupid...think they could have come up with something better except..."damn, they blew up our 'invincible' battle station...what will we do?" "I know we can build a new one that is more vunerable." "Why, thats just crazy enough that it might work...get right on it"

but i think thats an interesting idea what you have in mind...is there anyway you can make it one like maybe 4-6 hour movie? maybe it starts off with the start of episode IV, replace the death star with the ROTJ version, can still have alderaan get blown up maybe (this part i would need to think about) after they save Leia they run to hoth, where the empire chases them, basically ESB happens, beginning of Jedi happens, you wanted to remove the ewoks you said (which i dont mind them, but only one 'destruction of the DS' can be used anyway) so then it goes to the ANH death star fight/ending. all done as one continuous cut/movie

would be pretty different, would prob get a lot of flack from some people if you did that, but i think it would be interesting to see.

-Darth Simon


If you use the Death Star fight from the first movie, then how would the redemption of Anakin Skywalker work? You'd have (a much younger than in previous scenes) Luke flying in the battle against the Death Star, so there's no way he could be onboard fighting Vader and resisting the Emperor at the same time. And, of course, Darth Vader would be flying his own TIE as well. Plus, there'd really be nothing for Lando to do, unless you used elements from both battles (having to fire at the exhaust port and knock out the main reactor from the inside as well and somehow have it make sense). I could see that work. You could alter dialogue so it doesn't look like Wedge is leaving battle because he's been injured but leaving to join Lando's group and go inside. As for the whole Anakin thing, well, I'm still not sure how you'd do that, but I do think it would be cool to have two "fronts" for the Death Star battle to take place in.
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#118437
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Episode 3: Fan Editing Ideas Discussion
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/118437/action/topic#118437
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Originally posted by: Hardcore Legend
Yeah, TPM has nothing that is vital to the story, except how one man could convince the entire galaxy to make him supreme ruler.


I would say that Palpatine's becoming Chancellor is fairly expendable. If I was making an edit along the lines of Farsight's, I would probably leave something of that scenario intact, but it's not nearly as vital as when he manipulates Jar-Jar to give him emergency powers. That's technically when he starts his path to becoming "surpreme ruler". By comparison, him simply becoming Chancellor is useless exposition that didn't need a movie to be explained.