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#147632
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NOOOOOOOO!!! Electrodes, please!!!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147632/action/topic#147632
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Originally posted by: C3PX
Back on the Owen Lars and Obi-Wan thing. When I was young the the idea of prequels were just a dream, and all that existed were three great movies. I, like probably every other fan of the OT from before 1999, used to think of my own back story and even play out things in it with my old action figures. I had always thought Owen was Obi-Wan's brother. I figured with names like Owen Lars, Luke Skywalker, Leia Organa, Han Solo, Biggs Darklighter, Wedge Antillies, ect., which sound like pretty normal names as far has having a first name and a last name, that the name Obi-Wan Kenobi was a bit of an odd name. Ben Kenobi seemed much more normal. So I decided that Obi-Wan must be some sort of name the Jedi gave him. Just how Darth Vader being a sith had his named changed from Anakin, and I thought that most likely he was born as Ben Lars, or perhaps Beru Kenobi could have married Owen Lars.


That's exactly what I always thought too! He was always billed as "Ben (Obi-Wan) Kenobi" in the movies and most action figures, so I always thought that Ben was his real name, and Obi-Wan was his Jedi name. In fact, I like that idea a lot more than what we ended up getting... Someone made this a topic a long time ago, but it almost seems like Lucas went out of his way to make everyone's name as weird as possible for the prequels. In the originals, most human names were what we would consider normal or had some normal basis. Obi-Wan, being the wise old Jedi with mystical powers, was the only one whose name was really otherworldly.

But I'm glad someone else thought that too.
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#147452
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Interested in everyones opinion when ROTS DVD Comes after Nov 1
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147452/action/topic#147452
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I'm mostly a #1. I can and prefer to see the trilogy as standalone without having to get into all the drama and stupidity and continuity errors of the prequels. But I fall into some #3 elements too, because sometimes I can accept the prequels and find them enjoyable to an extent, although I'd see them as IV, V, VI, I, II, III, rather than I, II, III, IV, V, VI.
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#147336
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Episode I - Manga Comic.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147336/action/topic#147336
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Originally posted by: theredbaron
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Manga is generally released in a mirrored way over there? Over here, most comics are right to left, because of purists and as a commercial gimmick, sort of like"ohh, look, it's opposite" - but mostly to keep faithful to the original, sometimes the contract made with the japanese publisher asks for it to be published this way (when I grab some "ocidental" comic book I sometimes forget about it and look at the last page first).


Then again, if the text isn't still in Japanese...I dunno. I'd definitely expect a comic to read 'backwards' if it was still in Japanese, but if it's been translated, well...wouldn't that include translating the format?

I mean, I'd get a kick out of a right-to-left comic, and I've got tonnes of Japanese Dragonball comics at home, but isn't that the point of translating and yada yada yada?


I wouldn't say that. Translating is simply bringing the same text from one language to another. Reversing the manga ends up altering every single image, which is far different from translating. It's really not that difficult to get used to right to left manga. In fact, I feel pretty cheated when I get stuff that is reversed, and I usually just don't buy it, even if I'm into the series because it just seems... wrong. I don't want to start thinking about what it's supposed to look like while I'm reading manga.
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#147253
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NES games that you haven't beat
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147253/action/topic#147253
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Originally posted by: starkiller
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Well, I know that a lot of the concepts it introduced (or was going to introduce) were brought back for StarFox64, like All-Range Mode and Star Wolf, and those were some pretty good innovations. I would have been interested to know how that would have worked on Super NES.
StarFox 64...there's a good game.
I must have beat that 20 times, only 1 or 2, though, were using the ultra-hard path (where we see StarFox Sr.)

I think my high score was over 1000 kills.


The hard path's my favorite. Good game. Good game.
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#147251
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NOOOOOOOO!!! Electrodes, please!!!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147251/action/topic#147251
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Based solely on themselves, I found the prequels to be enjoyable overall. I loved going to the theatres to see new Star Wars movies. And there were a lot of good moments in them. The fact that they have so many bad continuity errors that mess up the originals makes me much less tolerant of them. The fact that George went back to the originals and inserted things from the prequels into the OT to cover his ass makes me wish the prequels had never existed. I would sacrifice the good memories I have of them just to keep me from being so bitter now. But it's a fun kind of bitter, so maybe it's not so bad!
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#147249
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Darth Vader birth scene, good or bad choice?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/147249/action/topic#147249
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Originally posted by: bad_karma24
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Well, that's the point. No matter what Lucas claims, the films aren't meant to be watched in numerical order. It totally ruins it. I've said it many times, but the prequels exist solely to fill out the originals. Technically, they're part of the expanded universe, because they expand on the real story.


What may I ask is the "real" story? Not to be rude... but Star Wars never actually happened. As far as I'm concerned, if Lucas wrote it, it "happened" as far as the movies go.


I'm not trying to say that Star Wars is real, or that the prequels didn't exist. I'm just saying that the real or main story is what happens in the original trilogy. The prequels are simply a backstory, exposition that exists simply because all stories have to have it. But in order for a story to exist, you don't necessarily have to know all the backstory. In fact, it sometimes hurts the story if you know everything right off the bat. And that's why the prequels should not be watched first. And my comment about it being expanded universe also does not imply that it should not be considered canon (I personally think a lot of it shouldn't be considered canon, but I'm not stating it as fact) because it does what expanded universe types of stories do: it takes the real or main story and... expands on it!
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#146897
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Darth Vader birth scene, good or bad choice?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/146897/action/topic#146897
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I was actually pleasantly surprised that he was christened Darth Vader while he was still completely human, because I've found that it's a common misconception that the suit makes Vader, and I was curious to see whether Lucas would give into that. So it still annoys me when people call it the Anakin/Obi-Wan fight when it's the Vader/Obi-Wan fight.

As for showing the birth of the mechanical Vader, I'm glad they did it (all "NOOOOOO"s aside). I think the best we can get out of that movie is the fanservice, and that's what we've been waiting six years to see. As for leaving Vader for dead and have it be a surprise... well, you shouldn't be watching the movies in that order in the first place, but if you are, the surprise is still ruined because he was already Darth Vader before his duel, and there wouldn't be more than one of them, so we'd immediately know who he is as soon as he's mentioned.
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#146776
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Episode I Digital Yoda Images!!!!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/146776/action/topic#146776
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I think the thing is, in the originals, he only talked "backwards" when it happened to sound natural. For years, I was never able to quite pin down what was so special about the way Yoda talked because it just flowed so naturally and sounded so cool. But with Lucas writing the dialogue, it seems the only thing he thinks is, "Wow. People like the way Yoda talks, so I'd better do it all the time." So every line of his was reversed. I only first started to notice this in Attack of the Clones, when I heard classics like, "To the forward command center, take me!" I stopped and thought, "Whoah. What in the heck was that?" And it only got worse in Sith. "That misread the prophecy could have been." I know I've said it before, but it actually took me a few seconds to decipher what was being said. That's when I finally realized that the whole thing was just screwed up.
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#146714
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Why Sebastian is better..
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/146714/action/topic#146714
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1. (most importantly) It nullifies Anakin's redemption at the end of Jedi by saying that he was last Anakin in his long-haired hippie days...
2. He doesn't fit in with the other two ghosts (agewise), and since he doesn't fit in, his teenage angst might kick in, and he'll get mad and kill the other two ghosts for not accepting him.
3. Impossible to make connection without having seen the prequels. Lucas is practically forcing the prequels down our throats.
4. Sebastian looked like a kind, fatherly figure to Luke when they looked at each other. There's no father/son moment with Haydakin.