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#261597
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Hey guys, Remember when Star wars had writing like this?
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Okay, I have a few things I'd like to bring up. The way I understood it, the "rule of 2" wasn't so much a rule of the Sith but rather the way things always ended up simply because that's the way they Sith rolled. There was always an apprentice learning from the master, then killing the master, and getting his own apprentice. Pretty stupid way to roll. I'd go with a rule of 1 myself. I mean, you'd think they learn eventually that getting an apprentice to do your work for you is a bad idea because he'd just end up killing you. Palpatine obviously tried to prevent that by having a staff turnaround as often as possible (although he obviously kept Vader around for too long... 20 years?! Come on!)

Something that has always bugged me, though, is the apparent notion (or fact, since George talks about it all the time) that Vader's sole ambition is to overthrow the Emperor. I see very little in the OT to support that claim. His actions just aren't consistent with a man trying to kill his boss. In fact, he seems very much like the perfect subservient lapdog to me. The only "evidence" is his speech to Luke in ESB, but I've always interpreted that as a bluff to get Luke to join him. In ROTJ, it's even further established that Vader has no intention of going against Palpatine. Think about the scene between Luke and Vader. Luke does exactly what Vader supposedly wanted him to do from the last movie. Luke actually gives Vader the opportunity to "come with him." It may not have been under the terms that Vader wanted, but it was the closest shot he'd had. Luke was volunteering to ally himself with his father, and Vader just turns it down because he "must obey his master," instead of using the opportunity to bond with his son and team up with him against the Emperor like he apparently wanted.

And during the entire throne room sequence, Palpatine makes it pretty clear that he plans on replacing Vader with Luke, but Vader apparently doesn't mind being trash-talked because not only does he sit there and take it, he actively supports the plan, chasing Luke around and fighting with him just like the Emperor wanted. Are these really the actions of a man who plans on rebelling? Um... no. These are the actions of a whipped little man who would even sacrifice himself to obey what his boss tells him to do.
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#261127
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A Date Which Will Live...in Infamy
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261127/action/topic#261127
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I have to honestly plead ignorance in this thread. I'm not especially politically astute, but I admit that I find elements from both points of view that I agree/disagree with, so I don't think anybody is as crazy as the other side wants to believe. But reading this thread last night did inspire me to further research the atomic bombings just to refresh myself on them and see if I couldn't learn anything new. And, yeah, it was hell, especially the part where I read that some Hiroshima survivors escaped from there only to seek refuge in... you guessed it, Nagasaki. Just didn't have luck on their side, did they? The bottom line is, war is hell, and we can debate until we're blue in the face rather an act of war was necessary, beneficial, or what have you. But there really is no definitive answer. We'll never know what the war and its aftermath would have been like had Japan not bombed Pearl Harbor or if we hadn't dropped the bombs on them a few years later.

And WESHALLPRESERVE, please stop with the personal attacks in your arguments. Not only does it destroy any credibility you try to remind us in every other sentence of what an alleged retarded shitface fucker Obi Jeewhyen may or may not be, it also makes you appear younger than you actually are.
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#261121
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Hey guys, Remember when Star wars had writing like this?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261121/action/topic#261121
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You can't fault the guy for trying to do something outside of his realm, though. I'm sure it would get pretty boring just to play it completely safe. I'm not defending the prequels, but maybe that was just an aspect that interested him. Maybe it didn't work out as well as he'd planned or what we as a movie-going audience expected in quality, but you can't blame the guy for trying. You can blame him for covering his mistakes by changing the old movies, though. I have no problem with the prequels as themselves. I just hate them because they led to the changing of the originals.
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#260534
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Hey guys, Remember when Star wars had writing like this?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/260534/action/topic#260534
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Originally posted by: JediRandy

He’s speaking out against the movie COMPANY posthumously altering the 3 Stooges material… last I checked Luca$ isn’t dead (contrary to some fans wishes) and Fox isn’t inserting Jar Jar into the cantina scene.

COLOSSAL difference…if the 3 stooges were alive and wanted to reshoot a scene, I'm betting GL wouldn't give a shit....


That's the difference you can't seem to grasp.


Interesting interpretation, although it doesn't seem to match the actual quote, where he says that he is upset with the possibility of his children not being able to enjoy the same version of a film as he did. Don't believe he specified under what circumstances, but to have such specific guidelines seems contradictory to the purpose of the original statement, doesn't it?


Link?


Up until May, the quote was featured on the main page of this site. I'm honestly not sure where else it can be found.
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#260523
Topic
Hey guys, Remember when Star wars had writing like this?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/260523/action/topic#260523
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Originally posted by: JediRandy

He’s speaking out against the movie COMPANY posthumously altering the 3 Stooges material… last I checked Luca$ isn’t dead (contrary to some fans wishes) and Fox isn’t inserting Jar Jar into the cantina scene.

COLOSSAL difference…if the 3 stooges were alive and wanted to reshoot a scene, I'm betting GL wouldn't give a shit....


That's the difference you can't seem to grasp.


Interesting interpretation, although it doesn't seem to match the actual quote, where he says that he is upset with the possibility of his children not being able to enjoy the same version of a film as he did. Don't believe he specified under what circumstances, but to have such specific guidelines seems contradictory to the purpose of the original statement, doesn't it?
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#260208
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The Gaffer Tape Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/260208/action/topic#260208
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Well, I remember I was scared as hell of them when I was 11, so that automatically loses some points with me. But you're, what, 14, 15, right? Face-to-face, man. Got to do it directly.

EDIT: And what's up with "Maybe"? Why would you put "maybe" on a card anyway? First of all, if you get back a maybe, what does that mean? And secondly, you can't give them any room to weasel out of it. Yes or no. The end. Well, if you have to use one of those cards. I don't condone it.