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#580712
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The Significance of British Accents in Star Wars
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I think it has a lot to do with, like buddy-x-wing said, where it was filmed, but it also has a lot to do with different directors.  If you look at ESB, THAT'S the film where this distinction is most evident, and that's because Kershner did it deliberately.  He made all the Rebels American and all the Imperials British.  But the first film certainly isn't as divided as that, particularly due to much of the British cast being redubbed with Americans.

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#580680
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Last movie seen
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Buster Keaton's The General.

Granted, it was a terrible DVD encode, but I guess that's what you can sometimes expect from a movie in the public domain and that you bought for a dollar at the pawn shop.  It ran half an hour longer than the back of the box claimed, so I admit I did get a bit restless, but I did greatly enjoy it.  I admit I am perplexed as to how it was panned at its release only to be revered later.  It seems to me that it would have been more likely the other way around.  There's a plot, but it does mostly center around the gags and stunts, which, if you're watching just for the plot, tend to bog it down, as the story stops at several times for Buster Keaton to do an extended bit of humor.

That's not to say the humor isn't worth it.  Some of it's very impressive, not just comedically, but also technically.  Considering most of the physical gags have to do with timing and stunts in and around moving trains, all of which Keaton did on camera without a stunt double... it's pretty amazing to look at.

I'm also surprised that it was based off a real life Civil War event... made into a raucous comedy 60 years later.  That would be like us making a World War II comedy, and I have a hard time seeing that fly.  And it's not just the stuff with the trains.  The climax of the film is a big battle between the Union and Confederacy, with soldiers around Keaton's character dropping dead around him one by one as they're hit by bullets, and he just can't seem to figure out why.

Finally, I'm torn on the love interest character.  At first, she really annoyed me because of her whole, "You didn't enlist?  Well, the hell with you.  You're useless.  Not that I can enlist, but I still insist on judging you by a standard to which I am not held."  But once he rescues her later on, and she's with him on the train, she actually DOES STUFF.  She doesn't just stand around for him to do everything.  She actually gets very physically involved with all the stunts and danger without shirking at all, and it's quite nice to see.

So, yes, I rate this quite high, and it's easy to see why it's usually rated so highly.

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#580426
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Do you think the average citizen of the Star Wars galaxy would even be aware of the Force?
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I guess it depends on which version of the Force you're talking about.  Han's comment makes sense when the Force was just believing in yourself, not using horrible technological devices like targeting computers but awesome technological devices like lightsabers, and tapping into an intuition database to do impressive but still possible-through-mundane-explanations feats.  Then, yeah, on that basis, it would not only be possible to not have heard of it but to not accept that it's real.

In the sequels, once it becomes levitation, telekinesis, etc., it becomes a bit harder to rationalize it if you've happened to have seen it, but still possible to not necessarily have been introduced it to it at all.

But in the prequels, once it's all that plus high-profile war and extermination... yeah, that's a bit difficult to rationalize.

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#580211
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George Lucas leaves Lucasfilm
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Well, you can't really restore detail where there isn't to begin with.  On its own merits, the GOUT can't ever substitute a 35mm film source.  A laserdisc master just doesn't have that level of detail to begin with, but it especially doesn't when you take that master and blur it up to get rid of the grain.  Maybe one day software will be advanced enough to "create" enough on a guess that it could accurately resemble what a high-definition image would look like, but could you still even consider that the original anymore?

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#579850
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George Lucas leaves Lucasfilm
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danny_boy said:

Baronlando said:

danny_boy said:

And I guess you don't remember this:

the first two Godfather films had sustained additional damage in the 1980s, when Paramount sent them to an optical house to make new prints. The original rolls were disassembled and then reassembled incorrectly, a cheaper but chemically damaging fill was used, and the films’ lyrical 12' and 16' dissolves were replaced with dissolves of generic length 

Hey no shit, what does that have to do with anything? Some lab goon working for Paramount home video did that.   

Everything.

Where was the fan outrage between the early 1980's to 2006/7  that should have been induced by this error to one of the most influential films in american cinema?

Can't seem to find it anywhere-----it's probably because The Godfather had not been dissected frame by frame by narrow-minded "so called fans" who had/have nothing better to with their time.

There is a marked difference between an unrelated, random person accidentally screwing something up, after which a comprehensive restoration is made, and the creator deliberately going out of his way to keep his original films out of the way.  It has nothing to do with "narrow-mindedness" (unless you're talking about George) or over-dissection of the movie.  Being mad at Coppola over that would be like being mad at Lucas because an intern spilled Coke on the Yoda puppet.  But that's not a fair comparison because you're comparing something Coppola had no control over to something Lucas has every control over and wondering why no one is mad at Coppola.  To use marketing speak, it's the difference between, "Oh, shit, we screwed up.  Sorry about that," and, "It's a deliberate, creative decision."

I do, however, see what you're getting at, although I have a different reaction.  I say it's a shame that it wasn't widely documented back then, and that tools like home video and the Internet have made it much more difficult to get away with crap like that.

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#579787
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Last movie seen
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Just saw Dark Shadows last night, and I really enjoyed it.  Girlfriend didn't as much.  It didn't really get to The Brady Bunch Movie levels of affectionate parody, but, especially by the third act, it certainly did feel like it was milking as many old soap opera cliches as it could.

"You weren't fixing my blood.  You were taking it for yourself!" *dun dun dun*

"I was actually a werewolf all along!" *organ chord*

"I was the one who made you a werewolf!" *higher organ chord*

And even aside from that, the dialogue was pretty sharp, the porcelain body effects were quite imaginative, and most of the jokes worked.

A few things fell flat, like the character of Roger, whose "I'm an unscrupulous deadbeat dad" subplot came out of nowhere and was resolved immediately, as if the actor just wasn't available to be in the film's climax.  And I couldn't help thinking that, with the power to control people's minds like Barnabus has, several problems could have been tied up a lot more easily.  Many of the characters didn't feel like they had enough of a chance to develop, or even get screentime, in lieu of Depp.  Also, Christopher Lee's cameo was rather wasted.

All in all, though, I found it extremely enjoyable and wouldn't mind seeing it again.

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#579751
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George Lucas leaves Lucasfilm
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georgec said:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/01/whos-replacing-george-lucas-at-lucasfilm

ATTENTION, EVERYONE. IT'S TIME TO FLATTER THIS WONDERFUL WOMAN WITH PLEASANTRIES IN ORDER TO GET THE UOT ON BLU-RAY! SHE WILL BRING BALANCE TO THE FORCE.

I love how, in the comments section, when someone complains about the lack of the original films, someone responds with: "maybe because he just wants to troll them for 30 years of his life stuck making star wars :P"  So, according to Lucas a few months ago, it's our fault that he's not making more Star Wars movies, and, according to this guy, it's our fault that George was forced to make Star Wars movies.  We just can't win! :D

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#579709
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George Lucas leaves Lucasfilm
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Has it really been that unnecessary?  Aside from the whole "removal from company" bit, it's the same song and dance we've heard for decades.  At what point is it too soon for it to become a big joke?

Of course, despite my anger at him for the whole Star Wars issue, I've always sorta hoped that maybe he HAS been somehow making movies all this time that no one knows about and no one has seen.  That he's made dozens of low-budget movies and has just told no one about it, and the joke's on us.

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#578638
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Secret History of Star Wars- The Audio Book, An OT.com Production?
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See, I thought you were correct.  I interpreted as meaning that, since we were somewhat off-topic on this thread already (talking about the purchase of the book rather than an audio version of it), that Frink was derailing an off-topic in on-topic rather than an on-topic in off-topic.  But instead you meant he was derailing on-topic in an on-topic rather than an on-topic in off-topic or an off-topic in off-topic.

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#578252
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Yellow Submarine Screenings!
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Oh, yeah, I loved the Hey, Bulldog sequence as well.  Granted, it helps that I like the song to begin with.  I will disagree with Kev that I think it was rather pointless.  Don't get me wrong.  There are a few extremely pointless musical numbers in there, even with the somewhat tenuous standard it has set for that, like the Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds and It's Only a Northern Song numbers, which really are just, "Here's a song."  At least the Hey, Bulldog sequence ties in to what's going on at the moment.

That's not really knocking it, and don't worry, kev, I really enjoyed watching it.  Like I said, I didn't even notice the audio problems until near the very end.

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#578241
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Yellow Submarine Screenings!
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Alright, I'm back.  "Nowhere Man" sounded perfectly fine to me, Kev, so I guess it was just you.  And, actually, so did "All Together Now."  Well, at least the first one did, but I'll get to that in a moment...

Mine did have a slew of problems, though.  At first I thought it wasn't going to play at all.  The opening narration started, but the screen was black.  Then, about a sentence it, it stopped entirely.  This sequence repeated a few times before we got a single image of a Pepperland inhabitant.  And then finally it started up properly.

I did eventually become aware that the audio for the entire film was a bit out of sync.  I honestly didn't notice it until near the end, due to the animation style and the sparsity of dialogue anyway.  I only really noticed when Glove started pounding things at the end, and the sound for it was about half a second late.  But I still wondered if maybe it was just supposed to be like that until The Beatles made their cameo at the end, and their lip flaps didn't match up at all.  So that was a bit disappointing, but nowhere near as disappointing as when the second "All Together Now" started playing... and the theatre cut the audio halfway through in an attempt to get us out faster so they could set up one of a million other showings of The Avengers.  Needless to say, everyone booed.  Not that that was terribly impressive as there was less than two dozen people there sadly.

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#577429
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what would happen if George Lucas had started with Episode 1?
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Not entirely sure what you're asking.  At the time, what George made was episode I.  There was no other story.  It was just... the story.

But if you're asking if he had happened to have come up with the plot for The Phantom Menace first instead of the plot for the original Star Wars, I really don't know.  It obviously would have been quite a bit different, as there simply would have been no way to accomplish a lot of the ideas.  Who knows what the Jar-Jar equivalent would have been.  Hell, it might have been better.  We might not have had to sit through that boring-ass pod race sequence.

I don't know.  It's an almost impossible question to answer.  I mean, like it or hate it, The Phantom Menace exists as it does because the original trilogy existed.  I mean, The Phantom Menace as it stands serves no other purpose than to tie back in to is predecessors.  Without that as a precedent, I don't see how he could have possibly come up with a story at all like it.

But for simplicity's sake, I'll just go ahead and extrapolate and say that, word for word, it ended up on the screen.  I honestly feel it wouldn't have been the huge hit the original Star Wars did, but, assuming the ILM breakthrough happened, I think it still would have been something of a phenomenon, and considered a groundbreaking pioneer in special effects at the very least.