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GZK8000

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#1207188
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Photo of Star Wars reels inside the Fox Film Vault
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From the r/StarWars thread:

no, these aren’t negatives. camera negative is generally stored horizontally in separate plastic/aluminum cans within a temperature controlled vault. these are release prints. also, some are listed as being flat (1.85:1) which is either incorrect or some of these are matted prints for certain territories or facilities that couldn’t project anamorphic content.

Another user:

If i had to guess, these would be 16mm reduction prints. Likely for Theatre distribution. A 16mm feature film fits on 3 reels rather than the 6 that 35mm takes up. Also the boxes are the width of 3 16mm reels.

These are definitly not 35mm prints or original negatives.

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#1206859
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The Original Trilogy restored from 35mm prints
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DrDre said:
With regards to the speeder shot, I’m curious to know the maximum image quality that can be pulled from the prints, without reverting to the in my opinion somewhat revisionist techniques employed by Mike Verta to clean up the speeder shot, and essentially remove all the color noise that most likely also existed on the original negative. The downside of removing all the color noise in my view is, that you will never recover the detail that should be associated with such a clean image, and thus the cleaned up image may actually appear less natural without the noise than the image with the color noise in it. In essence when our eyes cannot see detail, we expect noise. If we detect neither something is amiss, and we get that heavy DNR effect. So, I believe noise reduction should always be in the service of detail recovery/enhancement, but not be a goal in of itself.

I don’t think Verta ever intended to “preserve” the negatives. Those were already gone before the 97SE according to him, and there is no fool-proof way to separate dirt and noise that is from the camera and dirt/noise that was introduced when they were handling the negatives for the first time, or the 31th. He has always said that his restoration is an idealized version of Star Wars that tries to match the original intention, the original photography and all the detail that can be restored. Even his main version of Legacy doesn’t have the shaky logo from the original 1977 prints.

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#1206778
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The Original Trilogy restored from 35mm prints
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poita said:

I am trying out some new software that we have written, and in my spare time (hah!) I am going to be testing it out on a few scenes, so I thought I may as well do something people want to see.

What scene from the original 1977 Star Wars would people most like to see restored?

Cast your votes here and I’ll pick one or two to use as the test and get everyone’s feedback as to the results.

Landspeeder shot from the Mos Eisley scenes, after meeting the stormtroopers.

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#1206575
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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I guess because you can still make a prequel movie set in the pre-Rebellion days of Han without involving a reference from Empire and Han meeting the Falcon for the first time. In other words, something like the old Han Solo Adventures where Han already had the Falcon, but before he met Leia and Luke.

It would still be a prequel, and probably “unnecessary”, but at least it would just be a fun movie, like the old spirit of the franchise in the pre-oEU days.

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#1206569
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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I knew someone would say that.

What I mean by “unnecessary” is that, on my priority list, “a movie set in a different era with different characters” or “a movie set in the OT era but with themes and characters that are in no way connectd to the OT” is much higher than “let’s have a movie about a younger Han Solo and Chewbacca, and, oh, let’s add some pointless fanservice like how Han won the Falcon”. And that isn’t even the worst bit (I have read a certain godawful spoiler, but, it’s a spoiler after all).

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#1206556
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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dahmage said:

GZK8000 said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Why? They have a franchise with endless potential for new stories.

And yet they have the urge to explain how Han won the Falcon.

so i assume you won’t watch it then.

Solo isn’t just the scene of Han winning the Falcon, even if that scene is indicative of the conservative approach Disney is making with the standalone movies. There may be other scenes in Solo that would make it enjoyable, even if the movie is quite unnecessary. But I don’t have high hopes.

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#1206543
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Song Of The South
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I have one question: what’s the color reference for the original 16mm scan and the newer 35mm? Technicolor prints?

Also, Notelu, this is not a criticism or anything similar, I was just wondering, are your versions transcodes of the original release of the 35mm scan, or are you using the source files like Towne32 did with Star Wars DeEd 2.7? Anyway, thanks for your time and dedication.

EDIT: NVM, I have seen in myspleen that you’re using the unrestored release as the source.

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#1206062
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Request: Kiki's Delivery Service (1998 Disney English dub)
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I was unaware there were newer releases. I have been checking forum.blu-ray.com and there doesn’t seem to be an up-to-date comparison thread for all BD releases of Ghibli. So I’m not sure how well these releases you have mentioned are compared with the older ones.

I wonder how good are the japanese-only MGVC releases. Oh well, at this point I think it’s better to wait for 4K releases.

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#1205991
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Request: Kiki's Delivery Service (1998 Disney English dub)
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Well, I have read some discussions, and it seems they started degraining their releases after the first JP bluray of Nausicaä. There are some online pics of the original JP bluray of Nausicaä, and in those pics you can see that, despite the faded colors (although most of the red comes from the different color temperature they use in Japan), it is quite grainy (as it should be), whereas the second JP bluray of Nausicaä is much colder and the grain structure is not well defined.

There may be some additional problems I’m unaware of, though.

I would donate to fan projects involving scanning original japanese prints. It would be interesting to see how it looked back then in theaters.

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#1205816
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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NeverarGreat said:

GZK8000 said:

Handman said:

Since most of the latter two prequels are CG anyway, you could probably get a pretty decent 4K image if you redid it all. Of course the actors would still look not so great.

cgi ghost hayden lol

This legitimately creeps me out.

Me too. But I was saying in some years they’ll be able to remake the entire prequel trilogy with CGI Hayden if they want to.