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#1209441
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
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TV’s Frink said:

dahmage said:

and i don’t think i will respect the rest of your post. Chirrut and Baze were wonderful characters.

Don’t be The Arrogant.

Dude, I have been reading your (and others’) posts long before I created this account, and this is your typical attitude all the time.

I didn’t attack you, or said your opinions were wrong, I just have a different view, and expressed that, and you came here to said in public that you don’t have the need to read my comments anymore. OK, you don’t find my contributions interesting, fine, no one needs to read me, but to say that in public, with the only purpose to attack me, that’s rather inmature.

I have no problems replying and accepting your different views, not sure why you have the urge to make it explicit you don’t want to do the same.

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#1209433
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
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dahmage said:

Krennic works well as the guy who is losing power. it makes him desperate. I don’t get your complaint that him getting weaker is a problem.

For me is a problem because it degrades both the Empire and the plot of the movie. If Krennic were a local leader, I wouldn’t have a problem with him losing power. But I have a harder problem with the guy who is responsible for the Death Star project being so weak after his powerful flashback scene that he needs to be told by Tarkin that the defector pilot comes from Galen Erso’s facility.

OK, not everyone in the Empire is as intelligent and capable as Vader or Tarkin, I get that. But Krennic could have had some iniciative of his own. That he finds out his base is being attacked, okay, that’s fine. That Vader needs to tell him he needs to re-check everything about Galen Erso, ugh not really.

dahmage said:

and i don’t think i will respect the rest of your post. Chirrut and Baze were wonderful characters.

Lol “respect” is a rather strong word but ok. My point isn’t that Chirrut and Baze weren’t wonderful characters, I never said or implied that. All I said is that they are not needed for the plot. They are not connected to the Rebellion, Jyn, Galen, Saw or any of the characters and factions. They appear in Jedha City, they save the heroes, then they’re captured with the heroes, and then they follow the heroes because they have nowhere to go. They’re mostly in the background, although they’re part of key scenes of the movie.

They may be wonderful character (and, in fact, I prefer them to Jyn or Cassian), but since they aren’t further developed (unlike Han in Star Wars) they felt unneccesary. Had they been more prominent after Jedha City, they could have worked.

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#1209410
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
Time

TV’s Frink said:

That’s funny because I had the exact opposite reaction. In theaters I couldn’t remember anyone’s name and didn’t find anything compelling about anyone other than Chirrut, Baze, and sort of Krennic. Since then I’ve grown much more attached to the other characters.

The problem with Krennic is that he’s a weak villain and gets weaker and weaker over the movie, while Chirrut and Baze had no reasons to be in the movie, since they’re not even connected to the plot at all (they’re also the cliché-ridden tragic homosexual couple). One of the problems the Disney movies have (IMO) is too many characters at the same time, which makes things more confusing and/or bloated. Remove Chirrut and Baze and Rogue One gets better.

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#1209404
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
Time

So I think I prefer The Last Jedi over The Force Awakens now because, while TLJ has the awful Canto Bight shit, at least it tried to do something new (even if it sucked and it’s too serious), and because watching TFA is like watching a movie in 2x speed (and a poor, boring, semi-lifeless one with terrible comedy). They’re still poor movies, but, whatever.

Rogue One also sucks.

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#1209362
Topic
General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread
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SilverWook said:

GZK8000 said:

Boba Fett is Snoke confirmed

Fantastic Films magazine? They did a lot of wild speculating back in the day between sequels. I need to find those and see if anything was on the money. Not sure they were still in business by the time Jedi was out.

According to r/StarWars (I found it there), yup, from Fantastic Films 20:
Boba Fett is Boba Fett confirmed

And this seems to be Boba Fett’s first public appearance:
Boba Fett is communist confirmed

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#1209054
Topic
Ranking the Star Wars films
Time

TV’s Frink said:

[…]

From r/StarWars:
“I know most people love the jedi, sith, bounty hunters etc. I do to, but a lot of my favourite parts of Star Wars are the political scenes. I absolutely love all the scenes on Coruscant and in the Senate. Including Padme’s deleted scenes in ROTS. Some of my favourite Clone Wars arcs are the ones where they talk politics the entire time. It’s just amazing to me that in this fake universe, they’ve managed to create like 40 years worth of fake politics as well. And on top of that, it’s believable. There’s a reason for every action in Star Wars, and everyone has different motives.”

I mean, it’s one thing to like the prequels and to enjoy the “politics” (there isn’t a lot of politics in the prequels, but, whatever), but I don’t understand what is so amazing about it. It’s not like it’s particulary well developed, or very detailed and complex.

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#1208617
Topic
4k77 released
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MrPib said:

GZK8000 said:
Does this mean that Mike Verta’s color correction is revisionist, since in his restoration the blacks are really blacks, and that would not be representative of how Star Wars looked in theaters in 1977?

What I’ve seen of MV’s work sure looks revisionist to me. Check out https://vimeo.com/123533858

At 3:30 or so, he says that “it never looked like this in theaters”.

Ah, I remember at the time I liked a lot the grading used in that video and others, and I still like it even if it’s not representative of the theatrical experiences.

Here’s 4K77:
4K77 S-Foils in Attack Position

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#1208596
Topic
4k77 released
Time

poita said:

So yes, if you were in a good cinema in 1977, and you were lucky enough to see a really good print, there still were many scenes where the inky blackness of space was a bit green, or a bit blue, or a bit grey, and the level of blackness varied considerably shot to shot.
Now, back in '77 you probably didn’t notice, because your mind was busy being blown by the visuals, but the optical shots really stand out, both in their heavier grain levels, and varying colour and sharpness. Not just the blacks either, the colours across the board vary a lot shot-to-shot on the original prints.

Does this mean that Mike Verta’s color correction is revisionist, since in his restoration the blacks are really blacks, and that would not be representative of how Star Wars looked in theaters in 1977?

poita said:

[…]
If you want to really see how the film looked back then, you will need to grab a print, and a cinema and fill it with friends and project the film.
Short of that, feeding 4K77 to a home projector is as close as you will get right now.

That’s cool. I wonder if there could be a way to replicate a 70s bulb with some filter or something, or a way to tweak a home projector to emulate the 70s look. CRT shaders already exist and are used in the emulation scene, and they are pretty cool.

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#1208581
Topic
General Star Wars Random Thoughts Thread
Time

moviefreakedmind said:

She was, wasn’t she? I haven’t seen it in a long time, but I recall several scenes that implied that.

I also haven’t seen The Phantom Menace from beginning to end in a long time, but IIRC, Padme never flirts with Anakin, it’s Anakin who had a crush on Padme and does the awkward comments and unwanted catcalls. Which would fit in the typical the-male-character-has-the-iniciative narrative you see in lots of movies, including the pre-Disney Star Wars franchise.

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#1208563
Topic
Most Baffling Complaint of a Star Wars Movie
Time

Mocata said:

I don’t remember Vader or Luke single-handledly winning a war.

Neither do I. So we’re in agreement? These comics look pretty embarrassing.

What I mean is, why would they have the need to give Luke a plausible reason for not single-handledly winning a war when no previous character (including RotJ Luke) did that before? It’s a problem that only exist in the o/nuEU.

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#1208386
Topic
Most Baffling Complaint of a Star Wars Movie
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SilverWook said:

What are prequel era battle droid tanks doing there?

The obligatory PT reference, I guess.

TV’s Frink said:

I glad they didn’t do the scream. Takes me out of any movie I hear it in now.

To be honest I’m okay too, I was joking about a “Star Wars tradition”. I don’t have a problem with the scream in the OT (even in TESB). In modern movies is where I find it distracting.

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#1208377
Topic
Most Baffling Complaint of a Star Wars Movie
Time

OutboundFlight said:

The Last Jedi is the worst Star Wars movie because it doesn’t have a Wilhelm scream.

Mathew Wood said:

In this movie, we decided to move from the Wilhelm scream. We’re letting the past die, as Kylo Ren says.

lol I'm not serious

Mocata said:

[…] an arc that doesn’t end in a videogame massacre where a dozen AT-ATs are smashed (making it look like one man could have won the war - or the wars that came before this - single-handedly at any time)

I don’t remember Vader or Luke single-handledly winning a war.

Oh wait, you’re speaking of the comics?
this time I'm serious
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#1208287
Topic
4k77 released
Time

Williarob said:
A single correction was made for each reel. In most cases it involved nothing more than white balancing the image using the optical track for the white point and then adjusting the contrast so that the brightest point on the reel is right at the top of the scopes and the blackest right at the bottom. With a single adjustment like that, you can’t make space or the end credits completely black or you will crush the blacks in other parts of the reel.

Colors and levels could be greatly improved with a shot by shot grade, but I wanted to preserve the original colors and levels as much as possible for this version. So the colors quite accurately represent the digital scan of the print, which isn’t necessarily the same as when projected in a dark room with a 70s bulb, but nor is it anybody’s idealized imagination of what it should look like.

So if I understand what you say, wouldn’t this mean that if you screen 4K77 in a dark room with a 70s bulb you would have similar colors to what you see in the online screenshots of Technicolor screenings (assuming correct color balance)? Or does this mean that, even with 70s bulbs, people in 1977 did not see completely black space and end credits when they were screened a Technicolor print?

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#1208250
Topic
4k77 released
Time

I have a few questions: what was the goal regarding the color grading? In the 4K77 blog, there are videos of both Technicolor prints, (the one Lucasfilm and Mike Verta has used and the cleaner one with worse colors), and the latter one was the main source for 4K77. So the idea was to mimic the look of a typical/ideal Technicolor print, or one of the prints used for 4K77? In which context (when screened in a cinema or dark room with 70s bulbs, in a bright living room)? I am curious about the blacks here (specially in many space shots), was it a limitation of the print used or what? I’m not criticising 4K77, the restoration looks amazing and for me it’s now THE version of Star Wars to watch, I’d like to know the technical details if it can be shared.