G E Predator

mrbenja0618 said:

What did you use to record with? Will you be able to record at a high quality level for this project?

I used Audicity to record my voice.  And yes, I am able to record at a high quality level.  I can even make the voice test that I already made into HQ.

The reason that I didn't was because this was simply an audition take.  It's to give you an idea of how my voice would sound over Watto's.

Thank you, DarthPlagueis

As promised, here is video for my first voice test of the character of Watto:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zgIzcIyEtM

I'm open to constructive criticism on this.

Akwat Kbrana said:

But if all that matters is the plot, and audio/video quality doesn't make the least bit of difference, then why bother buying the 2004 DVDs at all? Why not just watch the GOUT? Or the VHSs, for that matter?

The audio/video quality is a great importance.  I was referring to the special effects.

CO said:

G E Predator said:

 I simply consider every edition to be "definitive" because no matter how many times the special effects change, the story stays the same.

I would agree with you if Lucas just did minor changes to special effects, but as I stated earlier in this thread, he removed an actor (Sebastian Shaw/older Anakin) for a newer actor (Hayden/young Anakin) which does change the context of the Return of the Jedi now. 

Lucas is now saying that Anakin died in Episode III, and he and Darth Vader were essentially two different people, hence he comes back in the spirit that was the last time Anakin Skywalker was a good guy.

Which is the stupidest logic in the world, because the whole point of Return of the Jedi is that Vader is conflicted the WHOLE movie!!!  He is still Anakin deep deep deep down inside himself, as there is a glimmer of good that Luke brings out and he kills the Emperor.

So you're wrong about the changes, Lucas DID change the story, albeit making the story worse and it makes no sense now, it is a different story.

 

Not starting an argument.  Just sticking with my belief:

I hardly consider one SPFX change in a movie to make the story all the different.  It's still Anakin at the end of the Return of the Jedi.

Akwat Kbrana said:

Wow. Well, if you want to celebrate mediocrity, be my guest. Personally, I find slip-shod jobs and deplorable quality things to be eschewed, but to each his own...

Sorry, but I in fact do not celebrate mediocrity.  I just choose to appreciate the movies for their plots rather than hate them for minor inconveniences.  Now don't get me wrong.  I also appreciate the fan films and fan edits, especially Adywan's Revisited version.  I simply consider every edition to be "definitive" because no matter how many times the special effects change, the story stays the same.

Akwat Kbrana said:

Ok, but even if you're totally on board with every "creative" decision made vis-a-vis the 2004 DVDs, doesn't the screwed up color timing and flipped audio channels irk you at least a little?

Nope.  Doesn't bother me one tiny bit.

Bingowings said:

While Ady has shown great magnanimity here in responding to those posts, Mr Ghostface started out saying that ANH:R was nothing special and that the praise heaped on it was down to our ignorance and then shifted it to say that video editing isn't that complicated.

These projects aren't just edits.

They are deconstructions and reconstructions of the original films with brand new elements of sound and vision and that is really, really hardwork.

This I agree with you, Bingowings, and as an experience editor myself.  Take my vid on YouTube, "Alternate Anakins."  I did more than just put one layer on top of another.

I started by cropping Obi-Wan and Yoda from one layer, then I had to sync up the two images of Anakin so that one would transition smoothly into the other.  In additon, the cropped line had to be well hidden so it was not obvious.  But it wasn't a finished project there.  I also had to get both layers of footage to match in level, brightness, saturation and color, and they had to match perfectly.  All of this was done in Adobe Premiere Pro, and it took a couple of hours to accomplish.

adywan said:

Darth Venal said:

 I do hope you meant those sentiments you expressed before about giving him another chance.

yes, i do still mean that. I'm always willing to give people a second chance. i even gave janskeet a second chance after he was banned and was keeping him in the credits, that is until he said he would donate more to my EPV edit if i could get him re-instated on these boards. Bribary is one thing i will not tolerate.

 

I know what you mean.  He should realize that he is NOT dealing with Jabba the Hutt here.  Although, I'm sure some people would get a kick outta seeing Janskeet throne into the Sarlacc.

adywan said:

 I didn't like being lied to just to get my help.

 

No one really likes that.

Cartman - If some guy lied to me...just to get my help...I'd be like "Aye!  I will kick you in the nutz if you pull that crap with me!

sorry.  I just felt like throwing that in.

Gaffer Tape said:

Okay, okay.  Maybe it's just because I'm extremely weary, but I can certainly see this conversation getting ugly at some point in the future.  I normally wouldn't butt in, but, like I said, bad mood.  Obviously G E has his perception of how he sees the films.  Some of this is not discussing fact but opinion, so I don't see any need to regale him of our viewpoint ad nauseum, since if he has his mindset... um, set, well, there you go.

So... Lucas lies, and G E can maintain his childlike innocence and suspension of disbelief when watching Star Wars no matter which version he's watching.  There?  Are we all happy?

Of course.  And rest assure that I have no intention of turning this conversation ugly.  I know how to play it cool...calm...collected.  *slips on a pair of shades*

CO said:

G E Predator said:

 Nothing's about the films has really changed for me.   

 

 Well, that actor named Hayden Christenson, standing there next to Alec Guiness in ROTJ really changed things for me when I watch it!

Whenever I see that scene, I don't see Hayden or Sebastian standing next to Alec.  I see Anakin standing next to Obi-Wan.

C3PX said:

G E Predator said:

I'm not a kid.  I'm 27.  And I have not been fed "bullshit."  I just don't always assume the worst.  It's not wrong to be an optimist.

 

You have been fed bullshit if you seriously believe the only reason the original versions of the Star Wars film are not on DVD in high quality is simply because despite all their best efforts, they simply just were not able to save this poor film from deterioration.

And I totally get what you mean about being positive about past events. Personally, I like to be a positive polly too! In fact, I am still holding out my hopes that this whole Hitler and war in Europe thing will blow over without America needing to get involved. Also, every night when I say my prayers, I am always sure to ask for the safety of the Apollo 1 crew.

Honestly, I'm happy with my DVD's..both the 2004 remastered versions and the Unaltered Theatrical Versions.  Nothing's about the films has really changed for me.  And I'm sure that Lucasfilms will provide better quality versions when the Saga is released to Blu-Ray.

Baronlando said:

Well without a time machine, you can't really be optimistic about something that already happened. (p.s. the negative wasn't any worse off than Jaws or Grease but somehow it wasn't necessary to reconfigure an animated dinosaur's ass into those movies)

Sure, I can.  Optimism is a choice, and I choose to be a positive-paully.

"It's my life's choice" - Eric Cartman, from South Park.

C3PX said:

G E Predator said:

Lucasfilm didn't destroy the negatives.  The negative had deteriorated over the natural coarse of twenty-years.  It's just something that was bound to happen, and they did all that they could to preserve those negatives.

 

Don't believe everything you hear, kid. You have clearly been feed bullshit.

I'm not a kid.  I'm 27.  And I have not been fed "bullshit."  I just don't always assume the worst.  It's not wrong to be an optimist.

The list looks good...thought I don't think that R2-D2 needs to be redubbed.

ChainsawAsh said:

Technically, Star Wars was destroyed.  In 1996, when Lucasfilm destroyed the original negatives to make the special editions.

Lucasfilm didn't destroy the negatives.  The negative had deteriorated over the natural coarse of twenty-years.  It's just something that was bound to happen, and they did all that they could to preserve those negatives.

vote_for_palpatine said:

G E Predator said:

From my point of view, Star Wars was not destroyed in anyway.  Not by Jar-Jar or Lucas.  I just think some people over-react because the prequels didn't turn out to be what THEY had expected, and that the classic OT has updated with CGI.  Lucas just wanted his movies to be the way that he had envisioned them.  In my eyes, Star Wars has been the same for the last 27.6 years of my life: an excellent plot about the hero's journey.

One can, as in the present example, use the "point of view" argument in such a way as to negate any discussion of content. After all, there's no way to see things through your eyes, so it may indeed be true that you see no erosion in quality, no fan-pandering, no rudderless direction, no meaningless stories, no unconvincing characters.

One can also live in denial if one wishes to. I left the theater 10 years ago convincing myself that I had just seen another great Star Wars movie. But because I have no allegiance to every declaration George Lucas makes as though this is the word of God, I couldn't ignore all of the shortcomings provided by Lucas' return to the world of SW.

If your point of view is that there is no noticeable gap in quality between TPM and SW (or ESB or even ROTJ, for that matter), then I suppose this response is about as necessary as a fight scene designed to show off the Jango Fett suit. But I couldn't resist.

 

From my point of view, the moon is constructed entirely out of blue cheese.

From my point of view, Elvis Presley is still alive on a secret island in the South Pacific, swapping Samoan hotties with JFK.

From my point of view, there are reptilian humanoids walking among us.

The beauty of it is that you cannot convince me that my point of view is not truthful to me. Therefore, I win!

Didn't know that this was a contest, but since we're in that direction:

From my point of view, Star Wars is real!  There are other galaxies, and some of the planets in those galaxies could be at war or may have been at some point in time.

From my point of view, Dragons live in the mountains of Asia and South America.

From my point of view, The Lochness Monster, Big Foot and Santa Clause are all real.  They're just camera shy...except for Big Foot.  He just can't stay in focus for some silly reason.

From my point of view, Star Wars was not destroyed in anyway.  Not by Jar-Jar or Lucas.  I just think some people over-react because the prequels didn't turn out to be what THEY had expected, and that the classic OT has updated with CGI.  Lucas just wanted his movies to be the way that he had envisioned them.  In my eyes, Star Wars has been the same for the last 27.6 years of my life: an excellent plot about the hero's journey.

mrbenja0618 said:

G E Predator said:

mrbenja0618 said:

Is anyone on board with me to find voice actors who can redo every line the prequels? This would be huge! That alone would even allow TJdavis and Infodroid to be able to do SW: Reborn the way they intended. haha... Granted they want to anymore. =)

 

I'm interestined.

Oh, and I forgot to mention earlier that I do a darn good Watto.

 

Awesome. Can you render out a sound clip of that?

sure.  when it's done, I'll e-mail you the sound clip

mrbenja0618 said:

Is anyone on board with me to find voice actors who can redo every line the prequels? This would be huge! That alone would even allow TJdavis and Infodroid to be able to do SW: Reborn the way they intended. haha... Granted they want to anymore. =)

I'm interestined.

Oh, and I forgot to mention earlier that I do a darn good Watto.

fishmanlee said:

old or young obi?

both actually

That does make sense.

I just kinda figured that Ady would have removed the light from the second astromech, or at least zoom in and crop the shot so that only R2-D2 is in the shot.

No pressure or hints to Ady, but I've been meaning to bring this up ever since I saw ANH:R...

In the scene where the Rebels are in the conference room discussing their plan of attack on the Death Star, the images on the screen are supposed to be projected by the Astromech unit standing next to R2-D2.  However, all shots of the droid -- except for the one close up -- shows it with it's holo-projector light off.  I a little surprised that Ady didn't fix this error.

I can do a pretty good General Grievous.  I can also do 3PO, Yoda and Obi-Wan.