FunkyDays

CP3S said:

Definitely agree with Ash's point about your wife having a Masters in Psychology, not exactly the credentials I'd be looking to for an informed view on the subject.

Being in a similar field myself, the recognition of signs of autism at or around the 18th month mark is hardly conclusive evidence to say it is caused by 18 month vaccines. It is not uncommon for symptoms of autism and other developmental disorders to be over looked in children until they have reached later stages of infancy.

However, I can see how such an overload of simultaneous vaccines could be potentially harmful.

I am not going to say everything Hairy Hen said is complete nonsense without giving all his points a further look, but it does sound suspiciously alarmist mixed with vague facts.

HH, if you don't mind posting the pdfs of the journal articles you mentioned, preferably with page numbers for the information in question, that would be great and would save me a lot of time trying to track them down on my own.

I'm not HairyHen :) but when I get home from work I will post those studies. I'm not saying "vaccines" cause autism. I'm saying dismissing links completely out of hand is foolish. Not even the entire medical/scientific community has reached that consensus. Some have, some have not. And when there are doctors and scientists and studies in peer reviewed medical journals, I understand parents hesitation to give a child every vaccine known to man. Especially in light of past medical "mix ups" (See previous post to ChainsawAsh)

ChainsawAsh said:

This is all pretty much 100% bullshit. 

Which point(s) "exactly" do you feel are bullshit?

a) Thimerosal is a poison?

b) Vaccine makers can, and do use thimerosal as a preservative?

c) there is a link between thimerosal/mercury poisoning and mitochondrial disorders?

d) there is a link between mitochondrial disorders and autism?

EDIT: The point about my wife isn't that she's a medical doctor (or even plays one on tv) The point is, she sees more autistic children before noon on a Monday than most of us will in our lives.  She works closely with doctors, other psychologists and parents, and she hears all their stories. I assure you that not every doctor is convinced that there is NO link.  Most doctors do not have time to research every item that comes across their desk. They assume the research has been done and that the data sheets are correct.  Hell, they used to prescribe thalidomide for morning sickness.  They used to recommend smoking while pregnant as it would help to have a smaller baby. They're human, and knowledge is constantly changing. What is regarded as safe today may not be found to be so tomorrow.

Warbler said:

*shrugs shoulders*

perhaps he meant decreasing the world population by preventing reproduction rather than by killing people?

Very possibly.  It's also possibly not what he meant to say.  I would like to think that you're right, and that he meant preventing reproduction (although I question what makes him the moral authority on that).  I still fail to see any logical reason to mention "vaccines" and "reducing population" in the same sentence. I don't see the parallel, or more accurately, I don't "want" to see a parallel. I'm sure that Baxter thing was an accident. And the Bayer episode where they pulled drugs for hemophiliacs off the U.S. market because it was contaminated with the HIV virus, and then shipped them off European and Latin American markets instead is probably just nonsense too.  ;-)  Bottom line for me is that *many* vaccines are safe and have been proven safe. Kids should be vaccinated against deadly diseases using known safe vaccines but not in large quantities at once (I never had 9 vaccines at once when I was a child and most people over the age of, say, 20 probably haven't either). Anyone who completely dismisses "out-of-hand" ANY links to a "known" neurotoxin (thimerosal) and neurological disorders is "optimistic" at best, and misinformed at worst. And, finally, anyone who believe vaccine makers have good safety records, good safety protocols, and have our interests in mind over financial interests...well, lets just say I've got a bridge they may like to consider purchasing.

Warbler said:

FunkyDays said:

 He's also a huge proponent of reducing the world's population by 10-15%. 

first time I heard that.

"The world today has 6.8 billion people. That's heading up to about nine billion. Now if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by perhaps 10 or 15 percent"

The problem isn't the vaccines, per se, it's the sheer number of them given at once nowadays, combined with using thimerosal (ethylmercury) as a preservative. Despite what some of you may say (very vehemently, I mighty add!), there is a definite link between thimerosal and mitochondrial disorders (Journal of Toxicology and Chemistry, last summer) There is also a known link between mitochondrial disorders and autism (Journal of The American Medical Association, last fall). I hope I don't need to draw a diagram here.  I'll post pdfs, if you can't find these studies through Google. My wife has a Masters Degree in abnormal child psychology, and is the Clinical Supervisor in her school district for kids with autism. She has seen normally developing children suddenly "have autism" after 18 month vaccines. She doesn't want my 15 month old baby to have 9 different (yes, 9) poison laden vaccines injected into her at once during her 18 month checkup.  Who the fuck am I to argue with her?  The issue isn't "should children be vaccinated?" it's "do we really need a vaccine for the friggin' chicken pox"? or "do we really need 9 vaccines containing a known neuro-toxin at one time?"  Bill Gates is a huge proponent of forced vaccinations.  He's also a proponent of reducing the world's population by 10-15%.  Draw your own conclusions.  Also consider that 2 years ago Baxter (one of the biggest vaccine manufacturers in the world) sent large quantities of flu vaccine that were "accidently" contaminated with live Avian Flu samples. Despite the fact that there are numerous safety protocols that ensure that such a thing isn't even in the realm of possibility, it occured.  Didn't really make the news much (I wonder why?)  It was only caught when the receiving Country (Czech Republic) decided to test it first on lab animals.  They were kinda surprised when they all started dying. 

Pandy Fackler - Ween

Darth, What's His Name? said:

I don't see that at all. Either on my 24" wide screen monitor or my 58" tv.

I took a few screenshots to illustrate what I think dark_jedi is talking about.  It's especially noticeable in the shot where Luke is running to Beru.  The blue sky nearly disappears with the blockiness, and the blocks are "dancing" like crazy.

http://img339.imageshack.us/g/26606916.png/

EDIT: After reading dark_jedi's post about tv settings, maybe my monitor is just wonky.  I'm gonna try them on my 42" plasma. 

dark_jedi said:

This is a sample I whipped up to show you the problems I am having, look at where the sky meets the ground, watch when Luke runs over to Beru, look over Owens shoulder, and when Owen calls Luke over with him and 3PO, this is a very small clip with no audio.

I still have other setting to try but this is my problem.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/sg0l1o

 

 

Whoa!  I see it plain as day even on my computer monitor.  In the first shot that shows the entire sky, blocks are dancing around like a "spectrum analyzer".  When Luke is running to Beru it kind of looks like he's in a sandstorm, and when he's looking down speaking to her it looks like plagues of locusts are flying around, but seem to fly up and out of the shot.  Very weird.  I wish I knew what to tell you :-(  Adywan's explanation of why the grain is so heavy in these shots makes perfect sense, but what I'm seeing is definitely not normal film grain, or even "heavy" film grain. I would think that it is possible that the heavy handed noise reduction originally used in the GOUT mastering made the "heavy" grain look blocky and upsampling to a higher resolution only makes it more apparent.  But it also looks like something going crazy during the encoding.

Anchorhead said:

definitely not my favourite album of theirs (but not as bad as Tormato), but that song's a great way to kill 20 minutes :)  I may have to listen to it again when I get home from work.

The Aluminum Falcon said:

As for making the Blu-Ray, this grainy... I'm indifferent. 

The sample that dark_jedi has uploaded looks stunning, and I eagerly await a release of whatever he decides is the right thing to do!  At the end of the day whatever makes him happy is correct, and we are all the richer for him releasing it for everyone. That said, in my opinion there's nothing wrong with film grain.  LexX is right when he says film grain is supposed to be there.  You're obviously an Evil Dead fan, Aluminum Falcon ;-)  Check out the new Blu of ED.  TONS of grain, as it was remastered from the original 16mm neg and there seems to be little to no DVNR applied. It may be the grainiest transfer of a film I've ever seen, and it looks outstanding. The grain really enhances the "gritty realism" atmosphere of the film in my opinion, and to me, that's one of the things that REALLY seperates the OT from the prequels. The OT looks gritty and real, and I think that film grain adds to that realism.

EDIT: On second thought, my comments are probably moot anyways. LFL scrubbed the living daylights out of any true "film grain" a long time ago :-(  It's probably just the upsampling making flaws in the GOUT master that much more exagerated.   

ChainsawAsh said:

King of Limbs (album) - Radiohead

I'm warming to it about as quickly as I warmed to Amnesiac (which is to say, pretty slowly, but it's getting there).

Agreed.  I also felt that way about Kid-A.  Rumours are swirling that the 8 songs on KOL aren't the complete album.  I'm hoping that turns out to be true as I'm kind of wondering where the guitars are on this album :-D

"meatless" (fake) chicken breast and curried rice noodles. 

"And this is what we call progress" - The Besnard Lakes

Ziggy Stardust said:

Love the username!

Ditto!  That's such a great album.  Thanks for the welcome.

Well, as I'm new (to posting anyways...I signed the petition when this site first started, and have been lurking ever since) this is a good a time as any to introduce myself.

Cheers!

The Aluminum Falcon said:

Apparently, an unofficial film restoration may be in the works, judging from the high resolution of that photo; though, mverta doesn't want to share for fear of legal trouble.

 

 

 

Sweet merciful crap! That picture is incredible.  I totally understand why it's hush hush, but WOW!

dark_jedi, I've lurked on this forum for quite a while. I've been DL'ing from a.b.sw since the 90's and have seen *alot* of Star Wars stuff over the years.  If it means anything to you, I actually registered tonight to tell you that I have never seen any thing look as good as that MKV file you have posted.  It's...simply incredible.