FreezingTNT2

I have an idea for an edit for The Last Jedi: continuing off of any edits of The Force Awakens that end with the Millennium Falcon leaving D’Qar and heading to Ahch-To, we should cut to the Falcon travelling in hyperspace and arriving at Ahch-To after Finn asks Poe about Rey, instead of cutting to Rey giving Luke the Skywalker lightsaber. It makes the transition from The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi less confusing, and allows for at least a few hours to pass in-between the films rather than having The Last Jedi take place immediately after The Force Awakens.

OutboundFlight said:

Not yet.

"It’s treason, then" plays in earrape

@poppasketti Here is a suggestion: after the opening crawl is over, the music ends in a similar way to the one in A New Hope. Can you replace it to be more in-line with The Force Awakens and The Rise of Skywalker?

jarbear said:

Hahaha, TNT, that is actually funny you say that since I worked on an edit and put it during the shot where the fighter gets like … extricated and disposed of. I hid it in the electric sound it made. More of an easter egg that isn’t meant to be obvious but I did it for fun. Lol.

FTFY (Fixed That For You)

How about the throne room fight?

RogueLeader said:

So would you also cut Luke catching the saber in TROS? I think we’re better off just to leave Force ghost rules a mystery rather than try to rationalize it in a fan edit.

Sorry, but there is only so much you could do whenever re-editing a movie. 😢

IlFanEditore said:

FreezingTNT2 said:

I have an idea for an edit of a scene in The Last Jedi: remove the shot of Yoda lifting his finger before the lightning hits the tree just as Luke is about to burn it, as well as Yoda hitting Luke with his cane. That scene creates huge plot holes, like for example, why didn’t Obi-Wan decapitate Darth Vader on Bespin with a lightsaber? It also contradicts the scene where Obi-Wan mentions that he cannot interfere in The Empire Strikes Back, as it turns out that Force ghosts can actually interact with the real world.

It is supposed to happen only in certain places, strong with the Force (like Ach-To).

Wish they made that clear within the film.

Peter Pan said:

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pleasehello said:

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DominicCobb said:

StarkillerAG said:

I know DJ was wrong too, but the movie explicitly tries to make a compromise between DJ’s beliefs and the beliefs of the Resistance, resulting in the whole “save the things you love” scene, which was one of the worst scenes of the movie in my opinion. Throughout the movie, it felt like Rian was trying to make it seem like the heroes and villains should find a compromise, which doesn’t seem like a good lesson for a franchise all about the light always winning.

I’m not sure I understand. “Saving what we love” isn’t about finding a compromise. It’s about caring more for helping people than killing others. It’s the very ethos of the franchise. Selflessness, and all that. Vader takes down the Emperor not because of hatred, but because of love for his son. The Jedi defend what they love, the Sith attack using hatred to fuel them.

I get people not liking the line because it’s on the nose, but the message is very important. I don’t know what it has to do with DJ’s line.

That line creates an inconsistency in Rose’s character: earlier she was fighting what she hated (animal cruelty) by freeing the Fathiers at Canto Bight, and yet she stops Finn’s sacrifice and tells him that Saving What We Love™ is more important than Fighting What We Hate™, resulting in the First Order’s giant laser cannon blowing up the metal door.

Uh, wasn’t she explicitly saving what she loved by freeing the fathiers?

She still prevents Finn from sacrificing himself and indirectly allows the First Order to destroy the door. Yeah, I know that Finn’s speeder probably wouldn’t have completely destroyed the cannon, but it could’ve at least damaged some of it.

Just a little theorizing over here, please don’t take me too serious.

What if Finn would have had destroyed the canon? The FO would have brought another canon. The Rebellion was trapped inside the cave and did not knew about the natural exit until the critters disappeared, which were escaping the giant laser that blew up the main gate (fun how Finn is the one pointing this out).

On another note, see how saving Finn, one single rebel, reinforces the theme of hope. Neither a dozen nor 400 will bring down the FO, but if all the oppressed people -like broom boy- rise as one there’s hope.

Finn destroying/damaging the cannon might have at least stalled the First Order from destroying the Resistance.

I have an idea for an edit of a scene in The Last Jedi: remove the shot of Yoda lifting his finger before the lightning hits the tree just as Luke is about to burn it, as well as Yoda hitting Luke with his cane. That scene creates huge plot holes, like for example, why didn’t Obi-Wan decapitate Darth Vader on Bespin with a lightsaber? It also contradicts the scene where Obi-Wan mentions that he cannot interfere in The Empire Strikes Back, as it turns out that Force ghosts can actually interact with the real world.

pleasehello said:

FreezingTNT2 said:

DominicCobb said:

StarkillerAG said:

I know DJ was wrong too, but the movie explicitly tries to make a compromise between DJ’s beliefs and the beliefs of the Resistance, resulting in the whole “save the things you love” scene, which was one of the worst scenes of the movie in my opinion. Throughout the movie, it felt like Rian was trying to make it seem like the heroes and villains should find a compromise, which doesn’t seem like a good lesson for a franchise all about the light always winning.

I’m not sure I understand. “Saving what we love” isn’t about finding a compromise. It’s about caring more for helping people than killing others. It’s the very ethos of the franchise. Selflessness, and all that. Vader takes down the Emperor not because of hatred, but because of love for his son. The Jedi defend what they love, the Sith attack using hatred to fuel them.

I get people not liking the line because it’s on the nose, but the message is very important. I don’t know what it has to do with DJ’s line.

That line creates an inconsistency in Rose’s character: earlier she was fighting what she hated (animal cruelty) by freeing the Fathiers at Canto Bight, and yet she stops Finn’s sacrifice and tells him that Saving What We Love™ is more important than Fighting What We Hate™, resulting in the First Order’s giant laser cannon blowing up the metal door.

Uh, wasn’t she explicitly saving what she loved by freeing the fathiers?

She still prevents Finn from sacrificing himself and indirectly allows the First Order to destroy the door. Yeah, I know that Finn’s speeder probably wouldn’t have completely destroyed the cannon, but it could’ve at least damaged some of it.

DominicCobb said:

StarkillerAG said:

I know DJ was wrong too, but the movie explicitly tries to make a compromise between DJ’s beliefs and the beliefs of the Resistance, resulting in the whole “save the things you love” scene, which was one of the worst scenes of the movie in my opinion. Throughout the movie, it felt like Rian was trying to make it seem like the heroes and villains should find a compromise, which doesn’t seem like a good lesson for a franchise all about the light always winning.

I’m not sure I understand. “Saving what we love” isn’t about finding a compromise. It’s about caring more for helping people than killing others. It’s the very ethos of the franchise. Selflessness, and all that. Vader takes down the Emperor not because of hatred, but because of love for his son. The Jedi defend what they love, the Sith attack using hatred to fuel them.

I get people not liking the line because it’s on the nose, but the message is very important. I don’t know what it has to do with DJ’s line.

That line creates an inconsistency in Rose’s character: earlier she was fighting what she hated (animal cruelty) by freeing the Fathiers at Canto Bight, and yet she stops Finn’s sacrifice and tells him that Saving What We Love™ is more important than Fighting What We Hate™, resulting in the First Order’s giant laser cannon blowing up the metal door.

And yet Star Wars was heavily influenced by many sources.

Another disappointing aspect of the sequel trilogy: I thought the idea of having the heroes be chased down by the bad guys in space in The Last Jedi had potential and sounded good on paper, but it had poor execution because it is… a slow-speed space chase that involves fuel. A better space chase idea would be to have the heroes jump into hyperspace, and every time they do so the bad guys jump into hyperspace too so they could keep on following them.

sigh Fine… shoots himself in head and bleeds to death, before being struck by a lightning bolt and being engulfed in flames

@Hal 9000 Do you plan on removing the “I am all the Sith/Jedi!” exchange between Darth Sidious and Rey? The exchange sounds really awkward and clunky.

Are you going to remove the “Oh no” in the opening Resistance evacuation scene? That line adds nothing and is an example of on-the-nose dialogue.

StarkillerAG said:

The main problem with that idea is that Kylo isn’t wearing his mask, and he doesn’t have his facial bandages either. It would be too much of an obvious continuity error, and it would be weird for Kylo to never mention the resurrected Palpatine for the rest of the movie.

Can’t we just edit Kylo’s face to have the facial bandages?

regularjoe said:

How about moving the opening of TROS to the opening of TLJ?
This changes Kylo Ren’s motivation throughout the movie and, adding the failed Snoke clones, would serve as an enhancer to why he wipes out Snoke when he has a chance with Rey and moves to consolidate his power base.

I had the exact same idea. Remove the first throne scene with Snoke and Kylo (we can have the “assault on Mustafar to get the wayfinder” scene as part of Kylo’s training mentioned in The Force Awakens), remove the shot of the Star Destroyers rising from the ground, remove Sidious telling Kylo to kill Rey, remove the awkward “camera zooming into D’Qar” shot (since it will be jarring if we cut from the scene with Sidious and Kylo to said zoom-in shot), and cut immediately from Sidious telling Kylo that “Rey is not who he expects” to the opening “Oh no” scene on D’Qar.

RogueLeader said:

That’s a fair point, Dom! And I do think I would’ve preferred that image of Hux stabbing himself with a lightsaber as the First Order falls apart in the background. Maybe suicide would be too dark for a Star Wars movie, but I think it would’ve been a cool way for him to go out. I don’t think Hux had to have been a Force-wannabe to a lightsaber on display in his office or something.

I had similar thoughts about the Knights of Ren. You could have one that is the most prominent Knight, could’ve been Matt Smith, and he sort of becomes the de facto leader once they depose Kylo or Kylo turns back to the light. Not only could you give him the Palpatine make-up, but you could layer his voice with Ian McDiarmid’s. It could sort of sound like Palpatine’s voice when he baptizes Vader in Revenge of the Sith.

It is a shame that Trevorrow couldn’t work around Carrie’s passing. I liked the idea of the First Order pretty much blocking all communication, and using some device on Coruscant to send a message to the galaxy. Obviously they couldn’t do that message after Carrie passed, but I think it would’ve been a good opportunity for Poe to step up as leader. Imagine Leia sending a message to the galaxy was the plan, then she dies and the Resistance feels hopeless, but after some kind of optimistic conversation Poe decides to do what Leia would have done and send the message in her place. I think that would have been a fitting way to continue her legacy.

The entire climax could have taken place on Coruscant, with Poe leading a space battle above the planet, Finn leading the uprising on the surface, and Rey, Ben and the Knights of Ren facing off underneath the Jedi Temple.

And yet we have Anakin Skywalker literally being set on fire on-screen.

liamnotneeson said:

The more I sit on it, the more I really hate Rey Palpatine. I really hate it- I wouldn’t even use hate to describe how I feel about what Johnson did to Luke in TLJ but I hate Rey Palpatine. The force dyad properly elaborated on would have been fully sufficient to explain Rey’s OP-ness, in my opinion. Rey being from nowhere was in retrospect completely in line with the Star Wars ethos and if episode XI had kept with it, and I think it would have allowed that fact to sit well with audiences.

Rey Palpatine never really sat right with me, even the first time I watched it. Once fan edits start coming out of TROS, whatever edit I chose will need to have Rey Palpatine scrapped, no exceptions, but that’s just my taste and my preference. Rey Palpatine will never be canon to me.

This is coming from someone who overall enjoyed the sequels, so don’t accuse me of being a Disney hater or whatever. I understand why JJ did it, and I strongly disagree

I hate the concept of Darth Sidious having progeny in general, it completely goes against his nature.

Anakin Starkiller said:

Hercules is public domain. Make that happen (as a novel). I’m sure there’s an audience for it.

But the Netflix incarnation mentioned above isn’t.

Wasn’t Snoke created by Darth Sidious?

@TheAlaskanSandman Do you plan on removing that “Force speed” scene entirely in The Phantom Menace? This power only exists just to get Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon to escape, and is never used ever again.

Another disappointing sequel trilogy idea: lightsabers now having the ability to call to other Force-sensitive people, which has never been established before in any Star Wars media.

yotsuya said:

Poe acted reckless when he destroyed the Dreadnaught. That it later turned out to be the right thing to do is immaterial. They had no way of knowing that they would be tracked through lightspeed. It was the wrong thing to do from a leadership perspective and that is what Poe’s journey in TLJ is all about. You have to follow the plot in the moment and not let yourself have 20/20 hindsight interfere in what came before. You can’t do that in life and you can’t do that in fiction.

Keep in mind that given that the bomber ships were slow and if Poe had listened to Leia’s orders, the bomber ships would’ve been shot down by the dreadnought while trying to head back to the Raddus. I guess the filmmakers should’ve included Y-Wings instead.