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#1296238
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STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI &quot;REVISITED EDITION&quot;<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED **
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Telion said:

Oh speaking of the DSII, Ady: I had always preferred the original DS even though the second “looks cooler” but, when ever I watch ROTJ it just doesn’t seem right. And I finally think I know why, its a 2D picture. I don’t how they managed to go from effects as stunning as those from ANH - which brought a giant space ball to life - to something as awful as what is in ROTJ but hey they did it. What puzzles me most, is that the DSII does actually have a physical model, but for some unfathomable reason they only shot if from one angle for the whole movie, and proceeded to just copy/paste it to every shot.
So idk whether you can do anything about this or if there a DSII models (3D or physical) out there or any or some other footage that can be composited to work but if you can, could you give it that same subtle spin that the DSI had?
Hope the edits going well!

Here is a model of the second Death Star that I found on Amazon!

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#1296211
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DrDre said:

Broom Kid said:

DrDre said:

Luke’s story in ROTJ is not one of becoming successful in spite of his flaws. It’s overcoming those flaws, losing self doubt, and insecurity that make him successful, that make him a Jedi.

And people don’t just overcome things once and then they’re never a problem again, either. If a story has to continue, then drama must ensue. And Luke is a focal point of that drama. Nobody becomes a perfect person at age 30, no matter how fantastical the story is. There’s still a lot of learning and overcoming to be done, backsliding and correcting that has to be accounted for. Our heroes are still people, and people are inherently flawed. That they triumph over their flaws is inspiring. But triumph doesn’t erase everything. But that speaks to your next point:

To me that’s kind of the point of myths, and fantasies, that it isn’t reality. That we do not find out our hero is secretly a drunk, beats up on his loved ones, neglects his or her children, is afraid of hights, suffers from all sorts of compulsions, etc, etc. I don’t get the idea, that making the Star Wars characters more realistic automatically makes them better.

It doesn’t “automatically” make them better, but it does make them more sympathetic and more relatable IF the execution is done well.

Well, I might be more sympathetic, if I didn’t have issues with the execution as well. I feel TLJ failed to really sell Luke’s point of view. That even if you accept Luke letting his fear of a possible outcome get the better of him (despite being a Jedi, who are trained to not let fear control them, and know that the future isn’t set), I don’t see how abandoning everything, and leaving the galaxy at the mercy of two dark siders is in any way a solution to the problem. I feel given our history with the character we deserved a proper setup to his character arc in TLJ. In stead the movie gives us one flashback, where Luke seemingly forgets everything he learned, and then runs from the consequences. This to me makes Luke less relatable, and less sympathetic. In the end Luke needs to be convinced to do the right thing by Yoda, even after he learns of his best friend’s death.

This is the REAL problem with Luke’s character: the problem isn’t that he is depressed or has PTSD, the problem is that they didn’t justify Luke’s behavior enough. They could’ve given more reasons for his depression: maybe he went and tried to find a way to save Ben, but everytime he tried so he failed, and decided to give up. They could’ve also explained that Luke felt like HE was the monster for accidentally unleashing a new dark sider onto the galaxy, leaving his friends behind because he felt like he’d make things worse.

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#1296098
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The ending reveal in The Last Jedi was very easy to predict.
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OutboundFlight said:

I knew something was off the moment he showed up in his old outfit (and if you think about it, the blue saber) but I was confused the entire time on my first viewing until the lightsaber. I thought it was great.

Speaking of his old outfit, I’m sure Luke might have kept it in his hut. I mean, we don’t really know what actually happened to it.

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#1295980
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The ending reveal in The Last Jedi was very easy to predict.
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I just want to point out that the projection reveal on Crait was easy to predict, mainly because Luke uses his father’s lightsaber that was recently split in half (even if it’s symbolism for accepting a lightsaber that he previously rejected), uses his younger appearance from the flashbacks, the fact that he was unscathed when the walkers blasted him, and the fact that we see no footprints in the salt. How do you feel?

EDIT: People are saying that they knew that something was up when Luke came in with his younger appearance and brought his father’s recently-broken lightsaber, but if you really think about it, Luke suddenly comes out of nowhere and doesn’t tell Leia that there’s a back exit. I’m sure some people would’ve wondered why we didn’t see Luke get his X-Wing out of the ocean and fly there (Yes, I know a wing was torn off and used for Luke’s door, but repeatedly we see ships in Star Wars fly all the time without wings).

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#1295979
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If you could change one thing about every movie, what would it be?
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TPM: Remove the Jar Jar humor and have him speak normally.

AtoC: Fix the bad dialogue.

RotS: I don’t know.

ANH: Han shoots first, like in the original release.

ESB: Palpatine’s hologram looks more consistent with his appearance in RotJ than RotS.

RotJ: Change Anakin’s ghost back to Sebastian Shaw.

TFA: Snoke looks more consistent with his appearance in TLJ.

TLJ: The film is now called “The Rise of Skywalker”. Also have Luke’s projection look much more like his older self seen throughout most of the movie and has his green saber back, to make the projection reveal more surprising.

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#1295733
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Outlines for remakes of the nine Star Wars saga films.
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As we all know, movies are currently being remade or even rebooted, from Star Trek to the Disney remakes such as The Lion King, who knows if the Star Wars saga will be rebooted/remade someday, and how will it be remade? If I were to remake all nine episodic films, I would tell a coherent and connected story, and to make better versions of the prequels, The Force Awakens, and The Last Jedi.

And yes, I know that some of you don’t actually want a remake of the Star Wars films, but don’t worry: this will be in it’s own separate universe/continuity and will not have anything to do with the current Star Wars timeline/universe.

And, of course, I can’t have any of them be exact copies, I have to put in at least something new. Also, some of the titles will indeed be changed (e.g. The Last Jedi will now be called The Rise of Skywalker). If you have ideas for some plot point changes, let me know!

I have some ideas planned already, but I can’t think of any more plot point changes for any of the original six films, mainly due to lack of ideas. Also, I will not tell you the changes for the sequel trilogy because I feel that the changes would fit in a Wikipedia-like plot summary.

Below, I will be telling you the plot points that I have came up with for remakes of the original six films, and I feel that telling you changes for The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi would fit in better in actual plot descriptions. Here you go:


THE PHANTOM MENACE

  • Jar Jar is no longer a comic relief and speaks normally
  • Naboo is Alderaan
  • There is no chosen one prophecy
  • The heroes are shot down as they crash onto Tatooine
  • Obi-Wan goes with Jar Jar and Padmé on Tatooine, while Qui-Gon stays in the ship
  • No podracing
  • Anakin is now a teenager
  • Darth Maul still wounds Qui-Gon, but doesn’t kill him. Obi-Wan is also beaten, but Anakin intervenes and severly injures Maul.
  • The duels are slow and don’t look like stupid dance-offs, like in the original trilogy

more coming soon

ATTACK OF THE CLONES

  • The title is now The Clone Wars
  • Maul is in place of Dooku
  • Boba Fett is not a clone and is instead Jango’s actual son
  • The clone troopers are evil, and are used instead of battle droids
  • Yoda doesn’t fight Maul (in place of Dooku), and instead saves Anakin and Obi-Wan from being crushed (the latter is just like in the movie)
  • The duels are slow and don’t look like stupid dance-offs, like in the original trilogy

more coming soon

REVENGE OF THE SITH

  • Jango Fett replaces Grievous
  • We know that Padmé is pregnant, but we never directly learn that Anakin is the father of the potential child
  • Anakin uses Force lightning on Padmé instead of Force-choking her
  • (Not my idea) Yoda uses the Force to project himself and stall Palpatine before he can even get to Mustafar and save Anakin
  • The Mustafar duel is on the collapsing Separatist building
  • No high ground. Anakin’s hand is cut off and is about to fall off, but Obi-Wan feels remorseful for Anakin and asks to hold his hand so he can get up, but Anakin refuses and falls into his seemingly demise (we still see him get discovered by Sidious and become Darth Vader on-screen).
  • We don’t see the birth of the twins: we just assume that Padmé and her baby were killed when Anakin used Force-lightning on her
  • The duels are slow and don’t look like stupid dance-offs, like in the original trilogy

more coming soon

A NEW HOPE

  • Luke’s last name isn’t Skywalker, so we wouldn’t suspect that Luke and Vader are related
  • Tarkin is Darth Vader’s advisor
  • Vader sends Boba Fett to look for the droids on Tatooine
  • Boba Fett shows up at the Lars’ home and destroys it, killing Owen and Beru, while Luke, C-3P0, and R2 are saved by Obi-Wan
  • Han shoots only
  • No Jabba, it ruins his reveal in Return of the Jedi
  • (NOT SURE) Instead of blowing up Alderaan, Tarkin threatens Leia to reveal the location of the Rebels or else her father Bail is executed, so Leia confesses that it’s on Dantooine. Tarkin, realizing that Bail isn’t needed anymore, orders to have Bail be executed
  • The fight between Vader and Obi-Wan is similar to SC 38 Reimagined (in terms of clashing lightsabers and using the Force)
  • (NOT SURE) The Death Star is damaged and not destroyed, meaning that we wouldn’t need to have another Death Star in Return of the Jedi
  • Tarkin lives
  • No award ceremony at the end. Instead, we get Vader speaking to the Emperor, setting up the next installment

more coming soon

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK

  • Luke gets to see more visions in the future
  • Yoda passes away before Luke leaves to fight Vader

more coming soon

RETURN OF THE JEDI

  • Not only does Obi-Wan’s Force ghost advise Luke, but Yoda’s ghost does too
  • When Luke attacks Vader, he slashes the helmet off, as we see Anakin’s face
  • Vader sacrifices himself against Palpatine, allowing Luke to escape
  • Palpatine does not die: he escapes via a portal into the World Between World (from Rebels), setting up the sequel trilogy

more coming soon


If you have any ideas for any new major plot point changes, let me know in the comments below! For now, let me know your thoughts on my ideas in the comments below.