Frank your Majesty

Hey, you said you stopped reading after the first half sentence, you lair.

Scott109 said:

Bingowings said:

Scott109 said:

Is the romance between Anakin and Padmé really that unrealistic? I think it is a psychologically accurate portrayal of a woman falling in love with a man suffering from Bipolar Disorder, an occurrence which happens much more frequently than you would imagine.

What?

It was pretty obvious that Anakin suffered from Manic Depressive Disorder or Bipolar Disorder.

These are common symptoms of Bipolar Disorder:

• Delusions of grandeur (“I will be the greatest Jedi ever. I will even learn how to stop people from dying”)

• Either sleeping excessively or experiencing insomnia (Anakin wakes up early because he cannot sleep)

• Extreme restlessness and extreme depression (Anakin is constantly active, has intense bursts of energy, throws things, weeps bitterly, and massacres the Tusken Raiders when his mother dies)

• Rapid and unprovoked mood swings (Anakin’s mood is always unpredictable)

• Hallucinations or visions (Anakin sees hallucinatory visions of his mother)

• An inability to concentrate (Obi-Wan always tells Anakin to concentrate)

The problem is not that Anakin isn’t realistically portrayed as a jerk, it’s that he acts like a jerk at all. He’s supposed to be one of the main characters, in the OT he was described as a great man and a good friend, we should be relating to him and care for him, not cringe at his creepy attempts to seduce Padme, even if this creepiness was intended.
The same can be said of all in-universe explanations of the PT’s faults. Sure, Palpatine can use the dark side to make the Jedi order stupid, but does it make for a good movie if the protagonists are a bunch of idiots?
These inconsistencies between how Obi Wan describes the Jedi and Anakin in Star Wars vs. how they are portrayed in the PT transforms him from a wise wizard to a senile old man, when his character was already weakend by making him a liar (from a certain point of view) in Empire.

We can decide later about that. I’d first like to know what he’s actually trying to say without having to skim through a wall of text with fake links in it.

writing like this is really annoying.it is not clear when a sentence ends.so it is hard to read.is it really that much asked to hit the space button after a point.com on.

I ain’t clicking that, dude.

I can’t stand you either, so we are two now. Happy?

I’d say it’s even worse.

If you want to keep the EU, what new characters and new threats would there be? Especially when you also want the old cast in the movie? There is barely any room in this corset that the old EU is.

Are you really saying that Spielberg’s only incentive to make movies is money?

ATMachine said:

The ESB model of the AT-ST had rather better proportions than the ROTJ version, I think:

Maybe they realized that they had to build the whole thing for Jedi and that humans needed to fit in it, so they went for a more space efficient design.

thejediknighthusezni said:

  If I had been responsible for the production of ROTJ, the PT, and the ST, I would have taken a bold Sharpie and written across my forehead in reverse "AS CONSISTENT AS POSSIBLE, IN EVERY WAY POSSIBLE, WITH ANH AND ESB!!!!" so that it would be the first thing I see every morning. But hey, I shouldn't expect guys who frequent a site titled 'ORIGINAL TRILOGY' to understand that. ;)
  Back to first principles. 'Science FICTION' is forward looking, 'Science FANTASY' is DECIDEDLY BACKWARDS looking. It's about rooting itself in the legendary and mythical PAST. "A long time ago...." The moment someone starts thinking "Ooh, we need to portray a better future!" he/she has FAILED SPECTACULARLY.

   Nobody reads your posts if you write huge paragraphs and format them like that. Noone wants to click on the scrollbar to see how your racist sentences end.

You’re saying yourself that Finn being black didn’t affect the plot in any way. Are you now suggesting that every time an actors ethnicity doesn’t influence the story, it should be the standard to chooose the white one? Does there always need to be a special reason to have a non-white (or non-male, non-hetero etc.) character? The people outside don’t have a specific reason to be asian or hispanic or whatever, they just are the way they are and for Star Wars, this is now unthinkable?
Also, Star Wars has a tradition of being inclusive since 1980, do you complain about Lando, too?

You grew up on your VHS?

1. Star Wars
   A perfect soundtrack for a perfect movie. I can listen to the score itself and there isn’t one boring or overly long piece of music; in the movie, the music perfectly accompanies the scenes to the point that I can see almost the entire movie in front of me, just by listening to the soundtrack.

2. Empire
   Here the music is much more subtle and intertwined with the visuals, which is a very good thing for a soundtrack, but for me, it lacks the quality to listen to it on its own, some pieces are very long. A reason for this may be that the action sequences in Empire are longer, but not as iconic as in Star Wars. The battle of Hoth simply isn’t a trench run. Just like the whole movie, it may technically be better than its predecessor, but it doesn’t have the same impact on me.

3. Jedi
   For the same reasons as Empire, it just doesn’t have the Imperial March.

4. Prequels
   On the first glance, it’s very similar as with Empire or Jedi, there are a few very memorable tracks and some “fillers”, but while Empire’s and Jedi’s scores work better in the movie than on their own, the PT soundtracks lack the connection to the visuals, they are just background music for scenes that I don’t care much about. For this reason I don’t bother to rate them individually.

I didn’t listen to TFA’s soundtrack yet, so I won’t rate it here.

Lord Haseo said:

equating the music to shit just because the movies are is kind of ridiculous.

I’d say I put the prequels last, not because I can’t disconnect their music from the bad movies, but rather because it’s so easy to seperate movie and music. Musically, the PT’s scores are alright, what tips the scale for me to the OT’s scores is their strong connection to the visuals.
When comparing only the best pieces, I’d say:

1. Empire
2. Star Wars
3. TPM
4. ROTS
5. Jedi
6. AOTC

But for an overall rating, you also have to take into account how the weaker tracks are handled and for the OT, they serve the movies, while for the PT, they are just “there”.

If the ship comes too early out of hyperspace, why does only the captain get force choked by Darth Vader? Same answer. The captain is responsible for the ship, if his decisions lead to success, he gets the credit. Noone will give Turbolase operater #285 a pat on his back for shooting escape pods.

Palpatine himself talks about the powers of the Dark Side in ROTS, so changing Vader’s lines in ROTJ to better fit ROTS doesn’t seem necessary to me.

One “name” was changed, however. In Star Wars, the stormtrooper TK 421 is called TK 241 😉

As for the german translation of the title, the stricter translation would be “Sternenkriege”, which gramatically makes sense, but is only one word and in order to split it in two lines you’d need a hyphen or it wouldn’t work anymore.

It was already topped by Star Wars.

I didn’t say they were as bad as the PT, just that the problems I have with BOTFA are of the same kind as the problems of the PT. And the first two Hobbit movies weren’t terrible.

You spelled durnk wrong.

Let’s compare ROTS to BOTFA:

• huge CGI opening sequence with silly moments - check
• getting rid of the villain from the last movie in the first 15 minutes - check
• a character is in it only for laughs - check
• characters appearing only as a callback to the first trilogy - check
• cringeworthy romance - check
• a good guy turns bad for selfish reasons in a stupid way - check
• two CGI armies fight each other and noone really cares about them - check
• a character steps on falling stones defying gravity in the most laughable way - hmm ok, I have to admit nothing in ROTS was that silly
• overly long duel between the good guy and the bad guy - check

So yeah, I’d say they suffer from the same kind of problems, the acting and overall execution may be a bit better in the Hobbit movie, though.

But Disney didn’t do these things to follow some “artistic vision”, they simply didn’t want to miss out on making money off parents who might think these things are not suitable for their children. They aren’t on a crusade to alter their movies for the sake of it, so if they can be convinced that releasing an unaltered movie will make them more money than releasing an altered one, they will definitely do it.

doubleofive said:

I’ve always heard the joke that his first name was Frank, I hope it was a comment of mine that inspired your screenname.

I think this has to be the comment in question. It seems the credit goes to Hal 9000.

moviefreakedmind said:

My absolute favorite user name is “Frank your Majesty”. Ever since I first saw TPM that line “If I may be frank your majesty” resonated with me.

I must be frank, I shamelessly stole that name from a post I read while I was still lurking here. I think it was in one of the Ridiculous Edits thread, when a new name for Palpatine was discussed.

BobaJett said:

You actually make my point! You saw the OT when you had already been immersed in contemporary film making and special effects. You are a product of your generation.

I don’t get that. So you’re saying that it is a huge difference if you watch the PT as an adult and immediatly don’t like it or if you watch it as a kid and first like it but then realize how flawed it is? And this somehow proves that these movies are better than people say they are?