Frank your Majesty

I’m reading the ‘what are you reading’ thread on ot.com.

dahmage said:

DominicCobb said:

By the way, we have no indication that the Starkiller base ever moves. Why would it travel through hyperspace if its beam can instead?

Here’s the other thing about the base, just because it got destroyed doesn’t mean that the First Order is done. In TLJ we see their fleet, why would any of those star destroyers be on the base? Of course they wouldn’t have been destroyed. And we know that Snoke isn’t there, so the information that he has his base of operations on a mega star destroyer isn’t a terrible surprise.

And the thing about the FO in general, is yeah, we don’t have any idea how they became so powerful - in the movies at least. I don’t see that as a problem, it’s not a plot hole, you might wish that they had explained it but it’s not something that’s unexplainable. And there is something of an explanation in the new canon content. As to whether the FO is a “fringe” group, well that depends on your definition of fringe. I don’t think there was any question in TFA that the FO was powerful and resourceful. TLJ doesn’t betray their galactic standing.

not disagreeing with your post, but i do think we know that SKB moves. it has to find new host stars…

That’s also what I think.

Do you mean Aargau or Aargau?

JEDIT: Lazy whoever, was lazy. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zug_system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canton_of_Zug
At least Laazrau, Zauhu, Urazuun, and Faargau are not in Switzerland.

2 out of 15 is 13%, though.

I’m a person and my name is [REDACTED].

Anakin Starkiller said:

Is that why his grammar was so awful?

I think the awful grammar is on purpose, to better fit in with the real humans on the internet.

Collipso said:

I’d say my favorite moment in the Star Wars saga is from when the score comes back for Luke’s attempt at the trench run until the very end of the movie. I always get the chills during “use the force, Luke” and when the Death Star blows up.

For me, it will always be the twin sunset.

But Black Swan is more of a Hollywood movie than ROTS. And not evety blockbuster is poorly written.

Shopping Maul said:

Frank your Majesty said:

Why didn’t the Death Star just jump in a position where it could immediately fire at Yavin 4, instead of circling the planet for half an hour?

Because it was clearly tracking/following the Millennium Falcon. The film shows the Falcon, having come out of hyperspace, arriving at a big red planet and flying under (around) it to a little blue planet. It makes sense that the DS would follow suit and assess things from there.

Wouldn’t the tracking device show them where exactly the Falcon is in relation to the planet?

My own explanation is that there are certain hyperspace routes, which are safe to travel. Outside of these routes, you can only go under light speed. The DS could only enter Yavin’s orbit at this specific point.

The same thing applies to TLJ. Once the Resistance ships were fleeing, the nearest hyperspace access point was behind them, so the FO couldn’t simply jump ahead.

Why didn’t the Death Star just jump in a position where it could immediately fire at Yavin 4, instead of circling the planet for half an hour?

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Collipso said:

Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them - cool movie, had the potential to be the best Harry Potter franchise movie, but failed because of a confusing plot. I really liked the characters and the part of the story where they’re looking for the lost creatures in New York, and really liked the chemistry between the characters. Unfortunately I didn’t like the Obscurus part of the plot, and honestly it felt like it belonged in a completely different movie, given the huge tone discrepancy between it and the other subplots.

Edit: I liked how it portrayed the US as super conservative 😉

That, and the whole movie looked like a cartoon.

Aren’t all Harry Potter movies a bit cartoonish? Apart from that, I had the same impression of Fantastic Beasts.

GZK8000 said:

I’m a SW/TESB only fan, so as I suspected, I didn’t like TLJ.

I don’t see the relevance here. Before Disney took over, I would have described me mainly as a SW/ESB fan, but now I think TLJ is the third best SW movie.

I think you’re supposed to pronounce every letter individually. It’s inspired by xkcd.

Jedit: and don’t capitalize it.

TM2YC said:

“What? I can buy a car that will drive me home from the pub when I’m sh*tfaced and I won’t get arrested? No more orange juice. Sign me up. It’s only 99% safe you say? Still sign me up.”

Human nature.

99% safe is still better than most human drivers, though. In the end, that is what matters. The odd hacker attack every now and then might be something that people are willing to accept in exchange for an overall reduction of accidents, drunk drivers and traffic jams.

Don’t get me wrong, I agree that he does point out the real problems of the PT, too. But this analysis is only a small part of the video compared to the nitpicks and jokes. That’s why I disagree with the notion that you can show someone the Plinkett reviews in order to convince them that the PT is bad.

ray_afraid said:

J0E said:

You can pick apart the OT Plinkett style if you wanted to.

People say this, but nobody does because nobody can.
We’re back to the ol’ “There all bad movies!” argument again. bluh.

Inconsistencies and plot holes are not what makes a movie bad. It’s not what makes the PT bad. But when you’re already bored by the characters and plot, then you’re more likely to notice these inconsistencies and less likely to accept an ad hoc explanation that would get rid of them.

Take for example TPM. Palpatine’s plan to become chancelor completely relies on the Trade Federation to fail at each order he gives them. Similarly, Luke’s plan to rescue Han from Jabba relies on Jabba not accepting Luke’s offer (or do you really think it would have been an option to leave the droids behind? With Luke’s lightsaber hidden in R2?). And R2 being assigned to work on the sail barge during the execution is also a big plot convenience. The difference is that ROTJ is overall good enough for me that I can overlook these things, while TPM is not.

If you wanted to, you could find things to nitpick in the rest of the OT, too. Cinemasins made an episode about ESB and while I think that Cinemasins is terrible and they don’t have the any clue about movies, they obviously found things to nitpick in ESB. And that’s what most of a Plinkett review is. Nitpicking. Done to entertain people who already think the movie is bad. You could do the same for the OT. The difference is that you won’t find as many people who are entertained by this.

TV’s Frink said:

rodneyfaile said:

NeverarGreat said:

According to ‘# of movies they’ve been in’, Palpatine, Obi-wan, Yoda, and Anakin are the main characters in the saga.

I thought it was Chewbacca, R2-D2, and C-3P0.

I’m not sure this is a great summary of the whole thread but I’ll take it.

The top of the page is more than one post.

Just read the top of page 190. The rest is basically like that.

What’s the difference between the 2004 and 2006 versions? Or do you mean the 2006 bonus discs with the theatrical cuts? If so, you already included Despecialized, so why bother?

Anyways, you always want to put three movies on a single disc, that seems a bit much to me. You might get away with putting the 3 DVD versions on a single bluray, but 6 hours of 4K video on disc thirteen seems totally unrealistic.

I guess I have finally made up my mind.

1. Star Wars
2. Empire
3. The Last Jedi
4. The Force Awakens
5. Return of the Jedi
6. Rogue One
7. TPM
8. AOTC
9. ROTS

TLJ is the first Star Wars movie since Empire, where I wouldn’t change a single thing. Not because I love every single scene, but rather because I love where these scenes lead to and I have no idea how to get there, when I were to change them.
I was a bit torn whether to put RO above or below ROTJ, but overall, I think Jedi’s highs compensate its lows enough to put it above RO, which has neither very strong highs nor lows.

I noticed the lack of footprints at my first view and my first thought was that Luke died in the blaster fire of the walkers and immediately came back as a force ghost. The fact that the blue lightsaber should be destroyed totally escaped me, though.

I also think it’s important to leave some clues for the audience, otherwise revealing that it’s a projection would be a cheap plot twist that only works at the first viewing.

How Many Versions of the AOTC are too Many

I can completely agree with that.

They are shot digitally because the image quality finally approaches analog film. If Lucas simply put money into the development of digital cameras, I wouldn’t say anything, but I don’t see why he should be praised for using inferior equipment to make gis movie.

Is it worth to applaud innovations that are no improvement over established technology?

Yes, George did something new. But was it really an improvement? If any director switched to digital early because of Lucas and ended up with a movie that looks worse than it could be, had it been shot on film, then Lucas did a disservice to the industry.