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#321661
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Robert Harris Godfather Restoration WHY cannot lucas restore the oot ?
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The only thing that's actually been frustrating me is that - while we are here to combine our efforts on preservations and fan edits IN LIEU OF a proper oot release - we've all very rapidly adopted the attitude that Lucas could never possibly be brought around to sharing the sentiment.

To be fair (and to keep things on topic), it's totally understandable why we've pretty much given up any hope of that ever happening. I mean, back in May of '06 when digitalbits broke the news of the laserdisc bidniss, RAH himself basically threw up his arms and said "I give up. I'm willing to do this restoration job free of charge and you don't even want that. What the hell, man."

At this point it's not a question of "could he," but "would he."

Hey, The Graduate didn't get an anamorphic dvd release in the U.S. until just last year unless I'm mistaken.

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#321306
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Robert Harris Godfather Restoration WHY cannot lucas restore the oot ?
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lordjedi said:

If the latest Blade Runner release didn't help Lucas "get the picture" what makes you think a Godfather restoration will?


Because Coppola and Lucas worked together on several projects back in the day, which is a lot more than can be said for Lucas and Scott.

To elaborate on what I was saying:

McCallum made that comment about "100 hours of documentaries for the next release." If they're going through all that trouble, what makes you think they would throw ALL of that in as a bonus to the movies themselves and NOT include the OOT? We've discussed - at length - Lucas' lack of sense when it comes to these movies, but that wouldn't even make any BUSINESS sense. Most people don't even bother to watch any of the extras on their dvd's, especially if they buy a lot of them. Granted, with blu-ray, it'll only take one extra disc per movie to fit all 100 hours of said documentaries into the set in standard def. Maybe this isn't of any consequence, especially since we don't know if McCallum meant "new documentaries" or "recycled but hard to find old documentaries."

I also wonder if they wouldn't go blu-ray only for the next release.

With Blade Runner, I picked up the 5-disc blu-ray even though I don't even have a bd player (or even an hdtv!). This was after I heard two things: 1) WB was going to phase out hd dvd, and 2) discs 2 and 4 on the hi-def releases were on regular ol' standard dvd's (those are the documentary discs, and having seen almost all the versions of the movie itself - except for the workprint and the international cut - the new documentaries were the only things I was really dying to watch).

Also, I didn't want to pay like 30 extra dollars (for the briefcase) just to get the fifth disc on dvd, especially when I already have the old ws/fs flipper and the dual-layered remaster from 2006. That, more than anything, told me that the studios are giving incentive for people to go hi-def.

Blade Runner is just one movie, which is why WB went through the trouble of putting out, all at once (inhale):

2-disc dvd
4-disc dvd
5-disc briefcase dvd
5-disc hi-def (either hd dvd or blu-ray) without the briefcase
5-disc hi-def with the briefcase.

You think Lucas would go through all that trouble for all six Star Wars films?

I'd think he'd want to keep it simple, maybe make this blu-ray only just as the 2004 set was dvd only. I mean, who doesn't own the movies on standard dvd by now?! I don't think LFL is going to sell any more of those.

As for throwing in the OOT, well, you can read my reasoning again if you want. To reiterate, I don't think it makes a lick of sense to throw in a whole bunch of documentaries no one will watch WITHOUT ALSO throwing in the OOT.

Look, we all know the man is crazy, but I think his desire to not be hated that much combined with his desire to be a good businessman will eventually dictate that he release the OOT on hi-def. His pride and his ego aren't that big.
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#320922
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Crystall Skull has GL's fingerprints all over it
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/320922/action/topic#320922
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skyjedi2005 said:

Somebody ought to start a thread welcoming all the tfn gushers with open arms.

Seems like only five or six people on these boards actually care and hope for restored versions of the oot, since the gout came out this site has become lets edit the special edition fan edit site. As Neil S Bulk claimed in a thread a while back and i have to agree with him.


Couldn't agree with ya more, sky.

I came here because there were too many gushers at TFN.

As for the lack of conversation about the oot, well.....

Despite what people keep saying about how the gout utterly buried the originals forever and how there's not a snowball's chance in hell of us ever seeing the oot half-decently remastered, I think the reason none of us really bring it up AT ALL is we just can't shake the feeling that Lucasfilm has something up its sleeve.

I'm annoyed as anyone about the lack of conversation, but the truth is that we haven't had so much as a rumor for MONTHS now.

More to the topic, I think the home video release plan for Indy IV - and the rest of the movies - will give us some clue of where things are headed. LFL announced at least three years ago that it's supporting blu-ray, so I wouldn't be surprised if we saw all of the Indy movies (which would only be the second blu-ray release of any of Spielberg's films) and the new Clone Wars movie hit the format this fall.
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#318840
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70mm screening
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318840/action/topic#318840
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skyjedi2005 said:

I think the original I.P.'s as well as the dailies and selected takes still exist on reels in lucas cold storage vault. as well as the dye transfer print of 1977 star wars.


This is the question I keep coming back to.

If the original IP's still exist then that's all that matters. Then Lucas really is just sitting on them and told the publicist to tell us that "existing prints are in bad condition." Because even if that's true, "bad" could mean anything. It doesn't necessarily mean that the IP's are beyond any hope of restoration.

Aren't the IP's all that really matters in regards to the OOT anyway? Yea, it's a shame about the O-neg, but what's done is done and I'm getting tired of people acting like it's the "end all be all" of us ever seeing the OOT remastered. All we would need is the IP's or, if worst came to worst, the theatrical release prints. But I'm hoping it doesn't end up resorting to that because a print is even further removed from the original quality of the negative than the IP already is.
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#318411
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Oh yeah!!! Lucas...clueless as ever.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318411/action/topic#318411
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I'm wondering how this would work out in terms of a release. McCallum said that they're waiting until there are enough digital theaters out there, but even then, how would this work?

If they're in fact doing all six movies, could they make this all that much more than a novelty thing? How would the release schedule work? I don't think they could make it as big as the '97 SE was.
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#318239
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Oh yeah!!! Lucas...clueless as ever.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318239/action/topic#318239
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I was just reading over at AICN how there's a 3D re-release of Romero's Dawn of the Dead in the works. 3D Star Wars was inevitably brought up and one of the talkbackers said the following:

"Lucas is not too pleased with this new 3D process. I read that it is taking far longer than expected and is costing an absolute fortune. That being said, I think that Star Wars in 3D will be incredible, imagine the space battles at the end of Jedi....wow....I'm just not holding my breath. I still think that it'll be a few years off yet."
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#318194
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State of the Trilogy/ annual SW depression
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318194/action/topic#318194
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SilverWook said:

Anybody recall the rumors ILM had done a lot of CGI tweaks for all 3 films and Spielberg vetoed them? Whether that South Park episode had anything to do with it we may never know! ;)


Apparently it did.

Parker and Stone said that after seeing that episode, Spielberg sent them the nicest "I hate you" letter they'd ever received.

I don't think ILM would've already made any changes by that point though, but they were considering it and the South Park episode apparently made enough of an impression to make them change their minds.
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#318153
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State of the Trilogy/ annual SW depression
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318153/action/topic#318153
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To be fair, there were reportedly some changes from the 100% original versions that were done for the '03 dvd. The obvious one is the reflection in the snake pit, but I also heard that the boulder shot was touched up in some way. One review I read said that there were a dozen or so changes throughout the three movies, but I've yet to see them listed anywhere.

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#318141
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State of the Trilogy/ annual SW depression
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318141/action/topic#318141
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I was about to say,

just give us the link and we'll do it ourselves. We're not that lazy.

edit: ummmmm, huh......

that's definitely not the same shot arright. This whole time I thought people were just talking about how the damn car looks. The entire shot looks different!

It's been a long time since I've watched Raiders all the way through, so I don't remember what this shot actually looks like in motion. When people started talking about it, I couldn't even remember there being any effects shots during that scene.
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#318046
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State of the Trilogy/ annual SW depression
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318046/action/topic#318046
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The only thing I could still see preventing George from releasing the OOT on blu-ray is the fear that too many people, if given the option, would only play the OOT and not the SE.

We've accepted the fact that the new version will be what plays on tv and in the theaters during the eventual re-releases. Why can't he at least do with Star Wars what happened with the new Blade Runner set? I mean, I'm convinced that if they ever do a re-issue of that blu-ray, it'll only have the final cut and not the archival versions. That's all George would have to do. Just GET IT OUT OF THE WAY IF IT'S BOTHERING YOU THAT MUCH. It's not like he's turned a blind eye to it anyway, see: the GOUT.

Nah, we'll get it eventually.