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#318239
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Oh yeah!!! Lucas...clueless as ever.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318239/action/topic#318239
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I was just reading over at AICN how there's a 3D re-release of Romero's Dawn of the Dead in the works. 3D Star Wars was inevitably brought up and one of the talkbackers said the following:

"Lucas is not too pleased with this new 3D process. I read that it is taking far longer than expected and is costing an absolute fortune. That being said, I think that Star Wars in 3D will be incredible, imagine the space battles at the end of Jedi....wow....I'm just not holding my breath. I still think that it'll be a few years off yet."
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#318194
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State of the Trilogy/ annual SW depression
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318194/action/topic#318194
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SilverWook said:

Anybody recall the rumors ILM had done a lot of CGI tweaks for all 3 films and Spielberg vetoed them? Whether that South Park episode had anything to do with it we may never know! ;)


Apparently it did.

Parker and Stone said that after seeing that episode, Spielberg sent them the nicest "I hate you" letter they'd ever received.

I don't think ILM would've already made any changes by that point though, but they were considering it and the South Park episode apparently made enough of an impression to make them change their minds.
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#318153
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State of the Trilogy/ annual SW depression
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318153/action/topic#318153
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To be fair, there were reportedly some changes from the 100% original versions that were done for the '03 dvd. The obvious one is the reflection in the snake pit, but I also heard that the boulder shot was touched up in some way. One review I read said that there were a dozen or so changes throughout the three movies, but I've yet to see them listed anywhere.

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#318141
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State of the Trilogy/ annual SW depression
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318141/action/topic#318141
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I was about to say,

just give us the link and we'll do it ourselves. We're not that lazy.

edit: ummmmm, huh......

that's definitely not the same shot arright. This whole time I thought people were just talking about how the damn car looks. The entire shot looks different!

It's been a long time since I've watched Raiders all the way through, so I don't remember what this shot actually looks like in motion. When people started talking about it, I couldn't even remember there being any effects shots during that scene.
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#318046
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State of the Trilogy/ annual SW depression
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318046/action/topic#318046
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The only thing I could still see preventing George from releasing the OOT on blu-ray is the fear that too many people, if given the option, would only play the OOT and not the SE.

We've accepted the fact that the new version will be what plays on tv and in the theaters during the eventual re-releases. Why can't he at least do with Star Wars what happened with the new Blade Runner set? I mean, I'm convinced that if they ever do a re-issue of that blu-ray, it'll only have the final cut and not the archival versions. That's all George would have to do. Just GET IT OUT OF THE WAY IF IT'S BOTHERING YOU THAT MUCH. It's not like he's turned a blind eye to it anyway, see: the GOUT.

Nah, we'll get it eventually.
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#318037
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18% of LD owners cite Star Wars as a main reason for keeping obsolete format
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318037/action/topic#318037
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This thread only further convinces me that we'll get what we want eventually. The fact that he released a very nice looking altered version and then a shit looking laserdisc-sourced unaltered version is just another way in which Star Wars is practically unique.

It was just exploiting people's ignorance of how dvd video works. He won't be able to do that with the blu-ray, and we might even get it reverse-ported to dvd in nice anamorphic video.

And before you all say "but Lucas only cares about the PT," I'll tell you "yea, but he knows what people want and are willing to pay for."
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#318007
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State of the Trilogy/ annual SW depression
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/318007/action/topic#318007
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zombie84 said:

Thing is, it was never expensive to begin with. In fact, restoring it from the original negative might actually be cheaper since 95% of that has already been digitized in 2004. Just scan the missing pieces--what, maybe 300, 400 feet of film? So thats under $1000 dollars. A little bit of digital cleanup to get rid of a few of the scratches, and then the standard telecine color correction--the labor charges for these things are a few grand, I would suppose. So really, we could have a digitally remastered, restored version of the OOT made from the original negative for a few thousand dollars. If everyone in this forum chipped in five bucks we could pay for it ourselves. Cost has never really been a factor.


I'd prefer a well-preserved print from the 80's. Failing that, I'd prefer the Robert A Harris route. Meticulously de-SEing the movies, while a noble effort, will never really be 100% true to the original conformation.
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#317893
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State of the Trilogy/ annual SW depression
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/317893/action/topic#317893
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thecolorsblend2 said:

I realize I'm a day late and a buck short on this discussion, but here goes.

But the OT is so powerful, the majority of people will 'put up' with the SE just to have them on DVD

Some people might but I think the majority of people (ie, Joe Sixpack) would not care which version they get.

Even so, given George's comments on the matter, I wouldn't by any means rule out an eventual real release of the trilogy. When? Your guess is as good as anybody's. If it were coming this year (a stupid choice with the 30th being last year and Indy 4 this year), we would've heard by now, I'd imagine.

As for HD, I can only see a Blu-Ray SE release happening in the next two years if the OOT is included. Lucas, rather obviously, doesn't have faith in the format so I'd imagine he'd want to package in the OOT as "extras" again to make the Blu-Ray thing a killer-app.

If the release happens beyond that window, when Blu-Ray's more established (and until Joe Sixpack has one, it's just a niche), which I estimate to be about two years away, then there'd be no incentive to include the OOT to spike up sales since the format would then be the growing market standard. Sales are assured anyway, right, so why bother?

Incidentally, George's remark about "it'll all come out in the end" was about learning whether people prefer the SE vs. the OOT. Ergo what I think he meant was "the truth will come out". I'd love to be wrong though.


I can't imagine it's more than a couple years away. The 3D re-releases will probably be 2010 because they've been working on them for a while now and how much longer are they just going to sit on them? There isn't really much of an anniversary to tie it in to, so I'd think they would use the 3D release to promote the upcoming live action show in some way. Then, in the fall, the blu-ray hits.

But as for this argument that a 1080p SE will be good enough for most people, well, it won't be good enough for me. I don't care how much detail there is, it's not the version I want. I'm also continuing to disagree with you guys that it'll sell like hotcakes. I'm starting to wonder if that would be true even if he did throw in the OOT. He'll need to do that just so he can get as many people as possible to buy it, 'cause I don't think he's going to wait another five years like he did with dvd. None of what I'm saying really matters at the end of the day because, guess what, they haven't commented on a damn thing regarding the OOT since '06. We don't have the slightest clue what they're up to.

All I'm really trying to say is that I don't think Lucas' ego is that big. Can we all agree that the GOUT resulted from a lack of willingness to spend money, not some incredible issue of pride? Maybe he's just waiting until the blu-ray to remaster it.

Look at it this way:

People, a good number of them anyway, are going to want the OOT in hi-def. For that reason, it would be worth Lucas' while to do some sort of rudimentary restoring/remastering of the OOT and include it in the packaging. The fact that he's lowering it to being "bonus material" doesn't necessarily preclude him from giving it to us in 1080p, even if it doesn't get a meticulous frame by frame job like Lowry did with the SE.