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#325006
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George Lucas interviews
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On a somewhat related note, I just got around to watching all three of those interviews for the very first time last night. But the thing that struck me even more than what GL says in the interviews is the realization that this was the "one last time" vhs release and it only took, what, two measly years for them to cave and put it out on dvd (anamorphic or not) after they'd released the SE in 04?

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#324485
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Just finished watching the '04 DVD version of Star Wars
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We wouldn't even have to put up with altered colors if LFL would just use a suitable interpositive (or, if worst came to worst, a positive print) of the original versions and just did some rudimentary restoration and then made a 1080p master from that.

All we really mean is that if the '04 versions got remastered for dvd quality, the original versions get remastered for dvd quality (not left in 1993 laserdisc quality). If one version gets put on blu-ray in 1080p, so must the other version.

I hate to say it, but GL was a genius in his plan. He knew that no one out there really knows the first thing about dvd technology, and that he would get away with the treatment he gave the OOT since there are way too many people out there willing to spew their ignorance with "What, you didn't want bad quality?" and so forth.

 

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#324463
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Just finished watching the '04 DVD version of Star Wars
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Yes, it is.

Not to mention the fact that we shouldn't even be bringing nostalgia into this at all.

Nostalgia is the very reason George didn't bother remastering the OOT. He thought "oh, sure, people will pay 60 dollars for shitty transfers just because they're nostalgic for them." Whatever happened to these being classic movies, not just stuff from our childhood?

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#324450
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Just finished watching the '04 DVD version of Star Wars
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Janskeet said:

I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the '04 DVD fiasco is what made Ridley Scott become very cautious about his '07 Blade Runner DVD collection. 

 

You might be right, but then again Ridley doesn't own the rights to Blade Runner whereas Lucas does own the rights to Star Wars. Someone raised the point last year when the final cut was released that if Ridley owned the rights, he might've very well not released the other 4 versions in comparable quality and just stuck with "his" version. Hey, I hope I'm wrong. I also hope that George's people can sit him down and have a nice talk with him about how a new set would sell better if it had the original versions included.

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#324002
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The Star Wars Exhibit at the Science Museum of Minnesota
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I remember going to Magic of Myth WAY the hell back in '97 (the Fall, I think) at the Air & Space museum. I've lived in Northern VA my whole life so it's just a hop away. The best part is that it was free (yay DC!). Still have my ticket stub actually. Still remember the Struzan art from the SE posters blown up onto a big wall with a 20th anniversary logo of some sort.

I caught Where Science Meets Imagination with a couple friends back in March when it was still at the Franklin Institute in Philly. I go to school in Northern DE, so once again my location was fortunate.

The coolest part of the exhibit for me was seeing the Devastator and Tantive IV models. Since my knowledge of all things Star Wars has increased vastly over the last ten years, it was cool to see that and go "wow, the Tantive IV model really is bigger than the Devastator!"

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#323907
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State of the Trilogy/ annual SW depression
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CO, you got banned? Wow, time flies. It seems like just yesterday that you and zombie were posting there. The thread about the big announcement of the unaltered versions hitting dvd is what first springs to mind.

 

I lost a great deal of respect for TF.N when I saw this interview:

 

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwocentsa127.html (scroll to a little more than halfway down. When you see a picture from Empire of Yoda, click on it. It's an embedded video. Yes, after almost two years it's still there.)

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#323549
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State of the Trilogy/ annual SW depression
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generalfrevious said:

Why has this thread been hijacked by Indiana Jones? I thought I started this topic about SW; I guess we so bored we have to talk about something else.

 

Well, on that note, it's been rumored now twice in the past week by thedigitalbits that Indy IV is hitting dvd in October but that there's still no word on a blu-ray. I'm chalking that up to a lack of information and not to Lucas and Spielberg being crazy enough to not release it on BD. The movie didn't exactly do TPM business. They wouldn't be proving anything by releasing it only on dvd in the fall and holding back on the blu-ray.

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#321661
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Robert Harris Godfather Restoration WHY cannot lucas restore the oot ?
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The only thing that's actually been frustrating me is that - while we are here to combine our efforts on preservations and fan edits IN LIEU OF a proper oot release - we've all very rapidly adopted the attitude that Lucas could never possibly be brought around to sharing the sentiment.

To be fair (and to keep things on topic), it's totally understandable why we've pretty much given up any hope of that ever happening. I mean, back in May of '06 when digitalbits broke the news of the laserdisc bidniss, RAH himself basically threw up his arms and said "I give up. I'm willing to do this restoration job free of charge and you don't even want that. What the hell, man."

At this point it's not a question of "could he," but "would he."

Hey, The Graduate didn't get an anamorphic dvd release in the U.S. until just last year unless I'm mistaken.

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#321306
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Robert Harris Godfather Restoration WHY cannot lucas restore the oot ?
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lordjedi said:

If the latest Blade Runner release didn't help Lucas "get the picture" what makes you think a Godfather restoration will?


Because Coppola and Lucas worked together on several projects back in the day, which is a lot more than can be said for Lucas and Scott.

To elaborate on what I was saying:

McCallum made that comment about "100 hours of documentaries for the next release." If they're going through all that trouble, what makes you think they would throw ALL of that in as a bonus to the movies themselves and NOT include the OOT? We've discussed - at length - Lucas' lack of sense when it comes to these movies, but that wouldn't even make any BUSINESS sense. Most people don't even bother to watch any of the extras on their dvd's, especially if they buy a lot of them. Granted, with blu-ray, it'll only take one extra disc per movie to fit all 100 hours of said documentaries into the set in standard def. Maybe this isn't of any consequence, especially since we don't know if McCallum meant "new documentaries" or "recycled but hard to find old documentaries."

I also wonder if they wouldn't go blu-ray only for the next release.

With Blade Runner, I picked up the 5-disc blu-ray even though I don't even have a bd player (or even an hdtv!). This was after I heard two things: 1) WB was going to phase out hd dvd, and 2) discs 2 and 4 on the hi-def releases were on regular ol' standard dvd's (those are the documentary discs, and having seen almost all the versions of the movie itself - except for the workprint and the international cut - the new documentaries were the only things I was really dying to watch).

Also, I didn't want to pay like 30 extra dollars (for the briefcase) just to get the fifth disc on dvd, especially when I already have the old ws/fs flipper and the dual-layered remaster from 2006. That, more than anything, told me that the studios are giving incentive for people to go hi-def.

Blade Runner is just one movie, which is why WB went through the trouble of putting out, all at once (inhale):

2-disc dvd
4-disc dvd
5-disc briefcase dvd
5-disc hi-def (either hd dvd or blu-ray) without the briefcase
5-disc hi-def with the briefcase.

You think Lucas would go through all that trouble for all six Star Wars films?

I'd think he'd want to keep it simple, maybe make this blu-ray only just as the 2004 set was dvd only. I mean, who doesn't own the movies on standard dvd by now?! I don't think LFL is going to sell any more of those.

As for throwing in the OOT, well, you can read my reasoning again if you want. To reiterate, I don't think it makes a lick of sense to throw in a whole bunch of documentaries no one will watch WITHOUT ALSO throwing in the OOT.

Look, we all know the man is crazy, but I think his desire to not be hated that much combined with his desire to be a good businessman will eventually dictate that he release the OOT on hi-def. His pride and his ego aren't that big.
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#320922
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Crystall Skull has GL's fingerprints all over it
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skyjedi2005 said:

Somebody ought to start a thread welcoming all the tfn gushers with open arms.

Seems like only five or six people on these boards actually care and hope for restored versions of the oot, since the gout came out this site has become lets edit the special edition fan edit site. As Neil S Bulk claimed in a thread a while back and i have to agree with him.


Couldn't agree with ya more, sky.

I came here because there were too many gushers at TFN.

As for the lack of conversation about the oot, well.....

Despite what people keep saying about how the gout utterly buried the originals forever and how there's not a snowball's chance in hell of us ever seeing the oot half-decently remastered, I think the reason none of us really bring it up AT ALL is we just can't shake the feeling that Lucasfilm has something up its sleeve.

I'm annoyed as anyone about the lack of conversation, but the truth is that we haven't had so much as a rumor for MONTHS now.

More to the topic, I think the home video release plan for Indy IV - and the rest of the movies - will give us some clue of where things are headed. LFL announced at least three years ago that it's supporting blu-ray, so I wouldn't be surprised if we saw all of the Indy movies (which would only be the second blu-ray release of any of Spielberg's films) and the new Clone Wars movie hit the format this fall.
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#318840
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70mm screening
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skyjedi2005 said:

I think the original I.P.'s as well as the dailies and selected takes still exist on reels in lucas cold storage vault. as well as the dye transfer print of 1977 star wars.


This is the question I keep coming back to.

If the original IP's still exist then that's all that matters. Then Lucas really is just sitting on them and told the publicist to tell us that "existing prints are in bad condition." Because even if that's true, "bad" could mean anything. It doesn't necessarily mean that the IP's are beyond any hope of restoration.

Aren't the IP's all that really matters in regards to the OOT anyway? Yea, it's a shame about the O-neg, but what's done is done and I'm getting tired of people acting like it's the "end all be all" of us ever seeing the OOT remastered. All we would need is the IP's or, if worst came to worst, the theatrical release prints. But I'm hoping it doesn't end up resorting to that because a print is even further removed from the original quality of the negative than the IP already is.
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#318411
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Oh yeah!!! Lucas...clueless as ever.
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I'm wondering how this would work out in terms of a release. McCallum said that they're waiting until there are enough digital theaters out there, but even then, how would this work?

If they're in fact doing all six movies, could they make this all that much more than a novelty thing? How would the release schedule work? I don't think they could make it as big as the '97 SE was.