Fang Zei

Anyway, I missed the first hour or so of the livestream for reasons I won’t bother going into here, tuned in just after noon and saw Harrison and George talking their different versions of how it happened. Ford’s “fly? yes. land? …” got a laugh out of me.

The stream was constantly buffering for me as well, but I did catch that amazing video they put together for Carrie and it definitely got the emotions going. Cut to: surprise, John Williams! Of course someone holding up their phone to take a pic was directly between Johnny and the camera. “Put your fucking phone down!” I yelled at, ironically, my own phone. So 2017.

Hearing Leia’s theme conducted by the master himself absolutely destroyed me. The orchestra really “brought it” as well. Do we know who they are?

An OOT announcement was never going to happen at this panel. This was always going to be about Carrie, and it’s only fitting. I don’t think, however, that there’s zero chance of it happening later on during the convention.

But then again I’ve already resigned myself to the likelihood that we won’t hear anything until 2020 at the earliest. If we get an announcement before then it will be a nice surprise. If that happens to be in the next month or so, great! But we really shouldn’t frame this convention as the “now or never” venue for an OOT announcement.

flametitan said:

Well, that was unexpected (to me)

Yub Nub’s in the intermission music.

Wasn’t that already on the latest release of the soundtrack, though?

An appropriate double post if ever there was one.

I mean, it’s interesting that they’re opening the convention with this instead of a TLJ panel, right???

An official unaltered restoration on blu-ray would be a pretty big deal, there’s no denying it. Maybe not quite as big of a deal as when the “Chewie, we’re home” trailer dropped, but for a significant percentage of fans this would be something they’ve waited more than a decade for.

There was definitely a Terminator box set at one point. There was also the sony-owned Dr. Strangelove and uni-owned Spartacus in the Kubrick sets.

The Mad Max set is another good example.

Here’s my line of thinking:

The GOUT was announced in early-mid May. If May 15th comes and goes and we still haven’t heard anything, we go with SilverWook’s idea of a more formal letter to the powers-that-be and send/post it on May 25th.

Yeah, just saw it.

Move along. Move along.

Ah, good, won’t need to stay up until 3 in the morning then.

SilverWook said:

Okay, cool kids who do the twitter thing, depending on which way the wind is blowing tomorrow, who do we tweet a response at? Disney, Lucasfilm, or both?
I’m thinking of saving the open letter thing for the actual 40th anniversary next month.

@ both of them and say something to the effect of:

“Celebrating the 40th anniversary of 1977’s Star Wars would mean something if we could actually watch it.”

lovelikewinter said:

https://twitter.com/Breznican/status/852334295091949569

Breznican says something is going down tonight at midnight.

Could it be?

1. OOT announcement
2. The Last Jedi trailer teaser
3. Something to do with Battlefront 2
4. Lucas as a surprise last second guest for Celebration

Who knows.

The very first place my brain went was number 1, if for no other reason than the fact that someone from USA Today knew about the GOUT the night before it was announced. I don’t know if that was a controlled leak on LFL’s part or a genuine one, but if this is Breznican then it definitely sounds like something they want us to know.

Of course, that doesn’t mean it’s OOT-related. It could literally be anything.

When he says midnight, is that east coast or west coast time?

Alderaan said:

SwissArmyTin said:

Alderaan said:

What time does the OOT nonsense speculation finally end? Is there a cut-off?

Okay, you say the speculation of an OOT announcement is “nonsense”, then ask if it will stop. What am I supposed to take out of this other than you being tired and irritated with the speculation of a release announcement in an event’s speculation thread?

I clarified in the subsequent post in case it wasn’t clear. Is there a make or break moment during this carnival that everyone who is anticipating the OOT is waiting for? At what point during the celebration do people stop and think, damnit, they aren’t releasing the OOT?

I beat you to it by mere seconds.

There is no “make or break moment.”

How quickly we forget that the GOUT was announced out-of-the-blue in early May of 2006, about as far away from a convention as you can get.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Also the Saga BD was pre-Disney.

True, but my point was that Lucasfilm continued selling it that way well after the Disney deal.

Y’know, it occurred to me that in the midst of selling it as the I-VI “saga,” Lucasfilm still showed favoritism toward the OT when they did the roadshow last summer. It wasn’t “the complete saga as George Lucas intended,” it was simply the “classic” originals, albeit in their SE form.

For the longest time, part of my speculation regarding an OOT restoration was that they would avoid favoritism by releasing collector’s editions of the prequels at the same time. The prequel movies would just happen to have “bonus” material like the theatrical TPM or the Imax cut of AotC while the originals would just happen to have the restored theatrical cuts as their “bonus.”

But after the roadshow I’m not so sure that’s how they’d go about it.

Now I’m thinking they may very well just put out a set specifically for the OT, pretty much solely to rectify this OOT situation.

I was pretty convinced at the outset that this new 4k scan was done as a basis for the 3D conversion.

Then we got distracted for a while by the fact that a 4k home video format was a thing that was happening.

After seeing those diagonal degraining shots, I may have swung back around to my original assertion that this was done as a basis for the 3D versions.

Why are the black bars so darn thick in the diagonal screenshots?

rodneyfaile said:

Star Wars Celebration predictions:

4K release of Star Wars in theaters July 28th (95% chance)
3D release of Star Wars in theaters July 28th (4% chance)
Any announcement regarding the Unaltered Original Trilogy (1% chance)

The July 28th rumor probably has nothing to do with Star Wars.

I’m starting to think I-VI will never be widely re-released theatrically, at least not like the SE was in '97. There are twice as many movies now for one thing, not an easy thing to do on the scale of the '97 release, especially in today’s world.

We’ve already seen things like the roadshow last summer. It really wouldn’t surprise me if they finish converting the OT to 3D in the next year or so. They could show it at conventions as they have the dimensionalized prequels. Also, if there are going to be any I-VIII in-theater marathons on December 15th and Disney once again insists on showing TFA and TLJ in 3D, they would finally have a complete 3D version of I-VI to show as well. I could really see people going for that two years from now during all the hype of what will be “the last movie of the Skywalker saga.”

Wazzles said:

Fang Zei said:

rogue1-77 said:

I can’t confirm the Star Wars clips are from the SE, since they don’t contain those scenes,
however in most likely scenarios, they are in my opinion.

I will post some other shots from them, and more from the ESB clips.

They aren’t publicly available in the higher bitrates, and are scaled down to 1080p.

R1

Didn’t we determine beyond a reasonable doubt that it’s still the SE?

The lightsaber flashes during the Vader/Kenobi duel was the giveaway, IIRC.

I think that assumption was made prior to the SSE being released. I honestly think the lightsabers look like how they appear there.

Very interesting…

What about the shot of the x-wings rolling off and diving towards the death star and the “pov” shot going into the trench? Were those re-comp’d for the SE and, if so, are there any telltale signs of which version we’re looking at in RMW’s reel?

rogue1-77 said:

I can’t confirm the Star Wars clips are from the SE, since they don’t contain those scenes,
however in most likely scenarios, they are in my opinion.

I will post some other shots from them, and more from the ESB clips.

They aren’t publicly available in the higher bitrates, and are scaled down to 1080p.

R1

Didn’t we determine beyond a reasonable doubt that it’s still the SE?

The lightsaber flashes during the Vader/Kenobi duel was the giveaway, IIRC.

lurker77 said:

JawsTDS said:

These screenshots seem to have come from a higher bitrate video than the Vimeo upload. They look much better when not subject to web compression.

I haven’t looked at this site in many months. Care to get me up to speed on all these references to a Vimeo clip and stuff supposedly shown to industry insiders?

I’ve seen that diagonal splitscreen degraining shot somewhere before, probably way earlier in this thread. Maybe JawsTDS can provide more info.

Anyway, here is the vimeo reel:

https://vimeo.com/95919913

JawsTDS said:

They mentioned a private screening of ANH at Skywalker Ranch in the FFC video. I do hope an OT.com member can win and confirm just what version it is! 😉

More than likely it would be the 4k “restoration” Gareth Edwards was talking about.

Echo3 said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

GMA seems like a weird forum to announce such a thing. Then again, the little commercial hardly hints at the unveiling of a trailer, nor does the language evoking the anniversary suggest a charity announcement. So who knows?

ABC is owned by disney

That’s the one big thing keeping me from getting my hopes up.

Disney wouldn’t engage in corporate synergy like this just to sell something that’s partially owned by someone else.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Sure they could. Could you imagine the ire, though? I think, generally, people who care about the OOT also tend to care about physical media.

Oh, most definitely. A nicely remastered OOT hitting digital before physical blu/4k would cause quite an uproar and would probably be a bad idea.

MisterRey said:

NeverarGreat said:

From Force for Change’s website:

"Following the release of Star Wars: A New Hope in the late 1970’s, fans began to embrace Star Wars stories of struggle, hope and inspiration on a more personal level. Philanthropy was very important to George Lucas — he used early screenings to raise money for charities around the world with a particular emphasis on children’s healthcare and education. Over the course of the last three decades, Star Wars fans have kept this philanthropic spirit alive by volunteering their time to countless charities across the world and raising millions of dollars in donations.

With new Star Wars stories on the horizon, Star Wars: Force for Change aims to support the immense passion and goodwill of our fans and promote change through inspiration, stories and meaningful partnerships."

1: "You’ll want to be a part of this Force"
2: "40 years in the making"
3: Daisy Ridley and Mark Hamill (Star Wars Sequel tie-in)

My prediction is that it will be something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfNiC9iKM0Q

That’d hardly be a “big announcement”.
Plus, the movie is already in post production.

Just because they can’t do walk-on contests doesn’t mean they can’t do some other sort of charity contest.

As I recall, that’s what they did after Episode VII finished principal photography.

nickyd47 said:

Haven’t had a cable box since 2014 so it’s not like I’ll be able to catch this. I don’t think it’s OOT related news. Disney would wanna announce something big like that at Celebration

I could see it potentially happening at celebration. The SE vs OOT debate can be a sensitive subject amongst fans, but if you look at how many times people like Hamill and others indirectly threw the prequels under the bus with their comments at Celebration 2015 (“we used REAL SETS this time”), the simple act of including the OOT alongside the SE doesn’t seem anywhere near as divisive.