Fang Zei

Why are the black bars so darn thick in the diagonal screenshots?

rodneyfaile said:

Star Wars Celebration predictions:

4K release of Star Wars in theaters July 28th (95% chance)
3D release of Star Wars in theaters July 28th (4% chance)
Any announcement regarding the Unaltered Original Trilogy (1% chance)

The July 28th rumor probably has nothing to do with Star Wars.

I’m starting to think I-VI will never be widely re-released theatrically, at least not like the SE was in '97. There are twice as many movies now for one thing, not an easy thing to do on the scale of the '97 release, especially in today’s world.

We’ve already seen things like the roadshow last summer. It really wouldn’t surprise me if they finish converting the OT to 3D in the next year or so. They could show it at conventions as they have the dimensionalized prequels. Also, if there are going to be any I-VIII in-theater marathons on December 15th and Disney once again insists on showing TFA and TLJ in 3D, they would finally have a complete 3D version of I-VI to show as well. I could really see people going for that two years from now during all the hype of what will be “the last movie of the Skywalker saga.”

Wazzles said:

Fang Zei said:

rogue1-77 said:

I can’t confirm the Star Wars clips are from the SE, since they don’t contain those scenes,
however in most likely scenarios, they are in my opinion.

I will post some other shots from them, and more from the ESB clips.

They aren’t publicly available in the higher bitrates, and are scaled down to 1080p.

R1

Didn’t we determine beyond a reasonable doubt that it’s still the SE?

The lightsaber flashes during the Vader/Kenobi duel was the giveaway, IIRC.

I think that assumption was made prior to the SSE being released. I honestly think the lightsabers look like how they appear there.

Very interesting…

What about the shot of the x-wings rolling off and diving towards the death star and the “pov” shot going into the trench? Were those re-comp’d for the SE and, if so, are there any telltale signs of which version we’re looking at in RMW’s reel?

rogue1-77 said:

I can’t confirm the Star Wars clips are from the SE, since they don’t contain those scenes,
however in most likely scenarios, they are in my opinion.

I will post some other shots from them, and more from the ESB clips.

They aren’t publicly available in the higher bitrates, and are scaled down to 1080p.

R1

Didn’t we determine beyond a reasonable doubt that it’s still the SE?

The lightsaber flashes during the Vader/Kenobi duel was the giveaway, IIRC.

lurker77 said:

JawsTDS said:

These screenshots seem to have come from a higher bitrate video than the Vimeo upload. They look much better when not subject to web compression.

I haven’t looked at this site in many months. Care to get me up to speed on all these references to a Vimeo clip and stuff supposedly shown to industry insiders?

I’ve seen that diagonal splitscreen degraining shot somewhere before, probably way earlier in this thread. Maybe JawsTDS can provide more info.

Anyway, here is the vimeo reel:

https://vimeo.com/95919913

JawsTDS said:

They mentioned a private screening of ANH at Skywalker Ranch in the FFC video. I do hope an OT.com member can win and confirm just what version it is! 😉

More than likely it would be the 4k “restoration” Gareth Edwards was talking about.

Echo3 said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

GMA seems like a weird forum to announce such a thing. Then again, the little commercial hardly hints at the unveiling of a trailer, nor does the language evoking the anniversary suggest a charity announcement. So who knows?

ABC is owned by disney

That’s the one big thing keeping me from getting my hopes up.

Disney wouldn’t engage in corporate synergy like this just to sell something that’s partially owned by someone else.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Sure they could. Could you imagine the ire, though? I think, generally, people who care about the OOT also tend to care about physical media.

Oh, most definitely. A nicely remastered OOT hitting digital before physical blu/4k would cause quite an uproar and would probably be a bad idea.

MisterRey said:

NeverarGreat said:

From Force for Change’s website:

"Following the release of Star Wars: A New Hope in the late 1970’s, fans began to embrace Star Wars stories of struggle, hope and inspiration on a more personal level. Philanthropy was very important to George Lucas — he used early screenings to raise money for charities around the world with a particular emphasis on children’s healthcare and education. Over the course of the last three decades, Star Wars fans have kept this philanthropic spirit alive by volunteering their time to countless charities across the world and raising millions of dollars in donations.

With new Star Wars stories on the horizon, Star Wars: Force for Change aims to support the immense passion and goodwill of our fans and promote change through inspiration, stories and meaningful partnerships."

1: "You’ll want to be a part of this Force"
2: "40 years in the making"
3: Daisy Ridley and Mark Hamill (Star Wars Sequel tie-in)

My prediction is that it will be something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfNiC9iKM0Q

That’d hardly be a “big announcement”.
Plus, the movie is already in post production.

Just because they can’t do walk-on contests doesn’t mean they can’t do some other sort of charity contest.

As I recall, that’s what they did after Episode VII finished principal photography.

nickyd47 said:

Haven’t had a cable box since 2014 so it’s not like I’ll be able to catch this. I don’t think it’s OOT related news. Disney would wanna announce something big like that at Celebration

I could see it potentially happening at celebration. The SE vs OOT debate can be a sensitive subject amongst fans, but if you look at how many times people like Hamill and others indirectly threw the prequels under the bus with their comments at Celebration 2015 (“we used REAL SETS this time”), the simple act of including the OOT alongside the SE doesn’t seem anywhere near as divisive.

Lust-In-Phaze said:

It doesn’t sound to me like it’s an OOT announcement at this point, but it also doesn’t seem like Force For Change would be a huge 40th anniversary announcement either. If memory serves, all the fanfare it got for TFA consisted of a few youtube videos of JJ standing in front of sets and props.

Ultimately this it’s just a bunch of corporate bs. Disney is going to cross promote something they own (Star Wars) on their very own network (ABC).

If the announcement tomorrow and the “surprises” later this week at celebration turn out to be nothing, can we all agree it was rather dickish of them to lead us on like this? They know damn well what we want and it’s the 40th Anniversary. This isn’t some trivial issue. The fans have been yelling about it rather loudly for well over a decade now.

They should at the very least address the issue. Is that so much to ask?

Fang Zei said:

MisterRey said:

Doesn’t sound like an Omaze thing to me at all.

It’s super vague. “40 years in the making” could literally mean anything.

They probably just want people to tune in so they get good ratings.

MisterRey said:

Doesn’t sound like an Omaze thing to me at all.

It’s super vague. “40 years in the making” could literally mean anything.

yotsuya said:

With the division the PT have caused, my take is to accept the stories, but omit the details. Include the visual, but ignore the dialog. Basically the events happened, those places and species exist, but they shouldn’t refer back to them in any great detail. Coruscant, Naboo, Utapau, could be mentioned or revisitied. The Trade Federation could be a contender again in the ST. Some of those species and places were destroyed by the Empire so you probably want to omit those. Definitely don’t include any Gungans unless they are in the background of a crowd. One thing I was very disappointed in was that The Force Awakens featured so few of the OT or PT aliens. It was great to see new owes, but some of the old ones (other than Nien Nunb and Admiral Ackbar) would have been nice. It was nice to see a different group of Mon Calamari and Ponda Baba in Rogue One. Like in The Last Jedi, if Luke tells Rey what happened during the fall of Anakin and the Republic, it should follow the story of the PT. When you summarize the stories they are pretty good. My kids have the Little Golden Book editions and in those the PT are greatly improved by glossing over things. So at that level, they cease to have the objectionable content (except for Jar Jar - he should never be mentioned again).

This is basically how I feel.

My biggest issues with the PT were George’s scripting and directorial choices. The story itself wasn’t the problem, and even in the best of all alternate timelines George probably would’ve written the story outline himself just as he did for the OT. The prequels still work as “the history of the last days of the Old Republic,” and to the ST characters that’s literally what it is, history.

Crazy theory time:

Disney already has full ownership over the other five movies so far as digital downloads are concerned, right?

Well, couldn’t they just get the OOT out there right now as a digital-only release, if they wanted to?

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Re: celebration, worth noting the BD sagas are still deeply discounted everywhere this week.

I was saying the same thing the other week, for the same reason.

Then someone pointed out to me that they were probably just trying to take advantage of Rogue One’s blu-ray release. “Hey, we could also pre-order I-VI. We don’t have those on blu. Oh and hey, look at that, they just slashed the price!”

But yeah, my first thoughts upon noticing the discount was “because they know they won’t even be able to give those saga sets away for free after they make the OOT announcement at celebration??? That’s got to be the reason, right???”

Now that I think about it, another omaze thing is probably exactly what this is.

I let the “40 years in the making” part distract me. They’re probably only saying that because they thought it would sound cool.

SilverWook said:

If it’s needed, it has to be a timely response while the iron is hot, so to speak.

Here’s my thinking:

If they don’t even so much as broach the subject, such as saying “we’re actively working on it / we won’t release it until 2020,” then we should assume there is a chance they have no plans at all to ever restore the OOT.

That is when we need to make our voices heard loud and clear to let them know “yes, we want this and we will pay top dollar for it.”

Disney could authorize an OOT release on regular blu-ray now and save the 4k for when they (mostly) get the rights back in 2020. The only potential problem from a business standpoint is that a regular blu-ray of the OOT might be “enough” for many fans who never plan on upgrading to 4k.

Whatever this GMA announcement ends up being, I sincerely doubt it’s a theatrical re-release.

doubleofive said:

Good Morning America is supposed to have something tomorrow:

http://www.jedinews.co.uk/misc/articles/big-star-wars-announcement-coming-tomorrow-good-morning-america/

“40 years in the making”

“you’ll want to be part of this force”

Theories? Just the new charity event for a role in TLJ?

It doesn’t sound like a charity contest for a walk-on role, but I also don’t see GMA (on Disney-owned ABC) announcing something Star Wars related that isn’t 100% controlled by Disney. Also, if it were an OOT announcement then why would they have Daisy showing up?

doubleofive said:

MisterRey said:

Is it possible that they’ll announce a new SE with updated VFX that doesn’t feature the more annoying changes and still stays true to canon? I’d kinda want to see that.

I believe that won’t happen. The “SE” became Lucas’ director’s/producer’s cut, any further changes or rollback would been seen as shitting on Lucas.

I dunno, there was that story a couple years ago about an unnamed source at Lucasfilm having seen a new version of the SE where Han shoots first again.

ray_afraid said:

The best way to handle it, IMO, is to have Leia’s role fade away naturally into the background due to all the other things going on. Then, have her show up again at the end of IX.
I really hope they don’t kill Leia. There’s no way to do that tastefully now. And it’s not like she needs to be at the forefront of the story.

Well, now that someone’s brought it up …

Episode VII was always supposed to focus on the new characters. By all accounts, our OT heroes had little more than cameos in Arndt’s draft before Abrams decided to give them a bigger role. He barely even got to Luke after touting TFA as the OT gang’s last hurrah. False advertising if ever there was any.

So yeah, it sucks that they won’t be able to seamlessly bring Leia’s part of the story to a close, but I have to imagine they had a contingency plan in place for a situation like this. At least Carrie still gets to stay in IX.

Man, will I suddenly become nostalgic for the PT era once I hit my 40’s?

Probably won’t happen since I’m in that middle generation born too late (1985) to have seen even RotJ in the theater but still early enough to very clearly remember a time before even the '95 faces/thx vhs.

The only problem with that comparison is that whoever took the photo didn’t properly set the camera to actually capture the difference. Now there actually is clipping going on in the hdr photo in the brightest area of the window that you can actually see more detail in with the sdr photo. I’m sure if you were in the room seeing it with your own eyes the difference in quality would become much more apparent than this photo comparison can convey.