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#293137
Topic
A New Direction For The Petition
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/293137/action/topic#293137
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Originally posted by: Mike O
What we really need is someone willing to champion the cause; Kevin Smith or Roger Ebert or someone.


I actually work at a lego store and as you probably know we sell Star Wars products. My dream would be to use this as a stepping stone to working at LFL someday and be the one to actually go through the Lucasfilm archives to "search exhaustively for source material that could be presented on DVD." It begs the question of why someone working there hasn't already done that and even moreso why someone didn't speak up about it once the non-anamorphic debacle started, although who says someone didn't? Then again, maybe there's just that symptom I was talking about in one of my posts. Maybe they look at it as a way of life and not as goddamn movies. Maybe the yes man and yes woman mentality is just too prevalent.

As an aside, you can now probably understand why I've been as pissed as anyone about the GOUT release. September 12, 2006 was going to be such a proud day for me with the release of lego star wars II and the unaltered OT.
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#292915
Topic
A New Direction For The Petition
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/292915/action/topic#292915
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Something profound just struck me.

Wouldn't it be better to name it fanpreservations.com rather than fanedits.com? As someone so eloquently put it in the most recent thread on the topic of the petition in the suggestions and ideas forum, fan edits are nice and all but they've now superseded the original priorities of the site. Despite my bitching that Star Wars could end up as the only buried movie out there, there are other movies on dvd and/or high def that are not available in their original form if at all. That doesn't even cover the matter of movies like Star Wars which aren't allowed to be shown on film even if a good print is available.

I'm being a little off topic so let me just say that in regards to the petition we need to say foremost that we know LFL has at least something of the OT (and we can hope it's the interpostives) because they flat out said it in the email last year. We also need to get across the fact, however subtly, that if they've only been planning to eventually remaster the movies this entire goddamn time then they'd better do it now because it's only pissing people off at this point and the '06 release was the most shameless double dip in the history of home video.

EDIT:

ADM, I heard the McCallum interview from Celebration Europe and maybe it's just me and my biases but after announcing Young Indy's dvd street date there was absolutely no reaction whatsoever from the audience whereas an announcement of the restored OOT hitting dvd, even with no solid street date in place, would've gotten quite a response. I mean, there's been rumor of Young Indy hitting dvd for years now, it's not exactly a non-issue especially on forums like these, but even then it got absolutely no reaction when its street date was announced for the first time in that McCallum interview and I think that silence was the sound of the well finally running dry.
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#292740
Topic
A New Direction For The Petition
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/292740/action/topic#292740
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Originally posted by: Mielr
As far as I'm concerned, the blue tint and the crushed blacks in the '04 DVDs is a non-issue since I refuse to watch the SEs- but in all honesty, I wouldn't mind if Lowry gave a similar "blue" treatment to the films again as long as they were the 77/80/83 versions (in HD).


Agree with your first point (although I find myself watching them from time to time).
Disagree with your second point, and it's unlikely that would happen this time since a restored OOT release would be made from the interpostive and not the negative that was used for the SE.
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#291391
Topic
So, um... no new DVD's announced this year?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/291391/action/topic#291391
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I was at the lego store the other day. I worked there the past couple of summers and I was stopping by to tell them I was still available. Anyway, I noticed the 30th anniversary sets are out now, and I thought back to that german lego memo. What do you people think about that? Do you think it was actually legit and LFL just decided to change their plans after the fact?
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#291236
Topic
So, um... no new DVD's announced this year?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/291236/action/topic#291236
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Well technically none of the PT movies are on dvd in their theatrical cuts either. The changes made to TPM are plain as day and I remember reading that there were at least 80 changes made to AOTC. ROTS is practically the same though. This is why I think the best case scenario would be twelve discs, two for each movie. One disc would be the original theatrical version and the other would be the latest revision, neither of which we've gotten on dvd. What I actually dream of in the long run is one BD-100 (dual sided, dual layer) disc for each film.

Yea, I know, why include the PT at all. I guess it's only from a preservationist standpoint that it would matter since as I said above we don't have any of the theatrical cuts on dvd.

By the way DGC, I think you could've bothered to actually state in the petition that we want the O-OT remastered in the box set. If it's not too late to change it you might want to do so.
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#291078
Topic
Would anyone want a Dune remake?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/291078/action/topic#291078
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While Herbert's screenplay wasn't used, he actually had quite a bit of involvement in the movie and actually did rewrites with David Lynch on the script. One such rewrite shortened the script by 15 pages and saved the budget 15 million dollars (you do the math). He could've gotten a screenplay credit but declined out of respect for Lynch.

Herbert's level of involvement kind of helps to ignore things like the weirding modules, but as a friend of a friend of mine replied, "Frank Herbert was also drugged out of his mind in the last years of his life. What's your point?"
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#291013
Topic
Time to get assertive
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/291013/action/topic#291013
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I can relate to the way gf is feeling about all this. I might just have to cut myself off from Star Wars for a while because it's going to drive me nuts waiting for LFL to announce something and it's definitely not happening until next year at the earliest anyway. In the mean time, I'm comfortable not paying 60 dollars just to have a slightly better looking picture and the option to watch it in french and spanish. Releasing those damn GOUT dvds was the most poser thing LFL ever did, especially when technically none of the movies have been released in their OV on dvd, but the exploitation of people's nostalgia prevails.

I was having a talk with my friend the other day and echoed something written around these boards from time to time. If Lucas hadn't fucked with the originals, people probably wouldn't hate star wars in general as much as they do. Of course, the problem with saying this is that if Lucas hadn't changed the originals he probably also wouldn't have made the prequels the way he did.

Again, the past is the past.

Can we please all make some agreement on either making a new petition or what we're going to do when the next release actually is announced if it doesn't have what we want in it?
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#290868
Topic
So, um... no new DVD's announced this year?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/290868/action/topic#290868
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When I step back and look at it all, I guess it's not that big of a deal once you just remember that the OOT is well preserved on film in various places even if it's not mastered in HD for our viewing in anamorphic dvd or high def blu-ray. There are already some blu-ray and hd-dvd releases of movies such as Chronicles of Riddick and Superman: The Movie that are not their original versions, even though both were released on dvd in their original versions. I wonder if the upcoming Blade Runner dvd will do something like that, include all the versions on the dvd but only include the latest version on the BD and HDDVD. Let's not forget THX-1138. Where's the petition for that OV? Also, Indiana Jones apparently isn't in its original form on dvd either, though not being an Indy historian I couldn't spot a single change if I tried. That's the problem with Star Wars, it's impossible not to notice the changes.

More to the point, technically none of the star wars films are on dvd in their original forms. I kinda like to look at the dvds as the '97-'05 version of the saga. The GOUT is a totally different matter, and I still wish GL hadn't bothered if he was just going to fuck over the fans like that. The sting goes away when you remember that it was also the first individual releases of the OT movies, and maybe it's just a first step on a very long road and not the first and last step on that road. GL won't ignore us as fans if we yell loud enough.

February of '09 is the official switchover date to digital television in the United States. In order to watch tv in the U.S. after that point people will need a box to convert the digital signal into analog (I would assume if they already have cable this would be done for them) or they'll have to get a digital tv set. Either way, analog tv broadcasts will be a thing of the past.

here's my source on that in case you're having trouble believing me.

Doesn't get more official than that.

The GOUT won't be any more obsolete than it already is, which is very, very obsolete.