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#291236
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So, um... no new DVD's announced this year?
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Well technically none of the PT movies are on dvd in their theatrical cuts either. The changes made to TPM are plain as day and I remember reading that there were at least 80 changes made to AOTC. ROTS is practically the same though. This is why I think the best case scenario would be twelve discs, two for each movie. One disc would be the original theatrical version and the other would be the latest revision, neither of which we've gotten on dvd. What I actually dream of in the long run is one BD-100 (dual sided, dual layer) disc for each film.

Yea, I know, why include the PT at all. I guess it's only from a preservationist standpoint that it would matter since as I said above we don't have any of the theatrical cuts on dvd.

By the way DGC, I think you could've bothered to actually state in the petition that we want the O-OT remastered in the box set. If it's not too late to change it you might want to do so.
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#291078
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Would anyone want a Dune remake?
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While Herbert's screenplay wasn't used, he actually had quite a bit of involvement in the movie and actually did rewrites with David Lynch on the script. One such rewrite shortened the script by 15 pages and saved the budget 15 million dollars (you do the math). He could've gotten a screenplay credit but declined out of respect for Lynch.

Herbert's level of involvement kind of helps to ignore things like the weirding modules, but as a friend of a friend of mine replied, "Frank Herbert was also drugged out of his mind in the last years of his life. What's your point?"
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#291013
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Time to get assertive
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I can relate to the way gf is feeling about all this. I might just have to cut myself off from Star Wars for a while because it's going to drive me nuts waiting for LFL to announce something and it's definitely not happening until next year at the earliest anyway. In the mean time, I'm comfortable not paying 60 dollars just to have a slightly better looking picture and the option to watch it in french and spanish. Releasing those damn GOUT dvds was the most poser thing LFL ever did, especially when technically none of the movies have been released in their OV on dvd, but the exploitation of people's nostalgia prevails.

I was having a talk with my friend the other day and echoed something written around these boards from time to time. If Lucas hadn't fucked with the originals, people probably wouldn't hate star wars in general as much as they do. Of course, the problem with saying this is that if Lucas hadn't changed the originals he probably also wouldn't have made the prequels the way he did.

Again, the past is the past.

Can we please all make some agreement on either making a new petition or what we're going to do when the next release actually is announced if it doesn't have what we want in it?
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#290868
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So, um... no new DVD's announced this year?
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When I step back and look at it all, I guess it's not that big of a deal once you just remember that the OOT is well preserved on film in various places even if it's not mastered in HD for our viewing in anamorphic dvd or high def blu-ray. There are already some blu-ray and hd-dvd releases of movies such as Chronicles of Riddick and Superman: The Movie that are not their original versions, even though both were released on dvd in their original versions. I wonder if the upcoming Blade Runner dvd will do something like that, include all the versions on the dvd but only include the latest version on the BD and HDDVD. Let's not forget THX-1138. Where's the petition for that OV? Also, Indiana Jones apparently isn't in its original form on dvd either, though not being an Indy historian I couldn't spot a single change if I tried. That's the problem with Star Wars, it's impossible not to notice the changes.

More to the point, technically none of the star wars films are on dvd in their original forms. I kinda like to look at the dvds as the '97-'05 version of the saga. The GOUT is a totally different matter, and I still wish GL hadn't bothered if he was just going to fuck over the fans like that. The sting goes away when you remember that it was also the first individual releases of the OT movies, and maybe it's just a first step on a very long road and not the first and last step on that road. GL won't ignore us as fans if we yell loud enough.

February of '09 is the official switchover date to digital television in the United States. In order to watch tv in the U.S. after that point people will need a box to convert the digital signal into analog (I would assume if they already have cable this would be done for them) or they'll have to get a digital tv set. Either way, analog tv broadcasts will be a thing of the past.

here's my source on that in case you're having trouble believing me.

Doesn't get more official than that.

The GOUT won't be any more obsolete than it already is, which is very, very obsolete.
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#290627
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So, um... no new DVD's announced this year?
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At this point I can't really blame you for feeling that way, DGC. When LFL pretty blatantly states that they're not going to even remaster the originals because they're in bad condition even though they did restore the negatives for the SE, how do you not take that as one huge fuck you? The Star Wars fan I am now wonders why the Star Wars fan I used to be didn't boycott everything from Lucas in the past 10 years. If I'd known what was coming, I probably would have.
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#290276
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Your first words of reaction after watching one of the PT movies for the first time.
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I saw TPM by myself the afternoon of opening day, not a very crowded theater as I remember (although the line waiting to get in for the next showing aftwerwards was pretty long). The duel was so entertaining at the end that it made me forget how cringeworthy some of the previous scenes were. So, my first words of reaction were "best movie ever." I mean, c'mon, it was the first time I'd seen an actual new Star Wars movie on the big screen, although I guess the SE's do kinda fall into that category too, not being the originals and all.

For AOTC I had words of reaction during the damn thing. So did my friends I was seeing it with. The situation was a little different since I'd spoiled myself silly this time. By the time it ended I only had the feeling of having to wait another 3 years.

At the end of ROTS my friend asked me what I thought. My hesitant reply was "It was good."
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#289528
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Time to get assertive
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Well, there's my non-anamorphic dvd of Oklahoma! mastered by THX from the 30 frame-per-second Todd-AO version. That looks pretty bad.

As an aside, I spotted Fox's latest reissue of The Abyss dvd in the store the other day. They spruced it up with a lenticular cover, but did they remaster it this time? On the back cover it says widescreen and in that same box but with smaller lettering "anamorphic 2.35:1." According to reports it's still the same old 4:3 letterbox transfer for the umpteenth time. The rumor is that they're not bothering to remaster it for dvd because they're waiting to put it out on blu-ray.
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#289301
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Time to get assertive
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Technically none of the six films are on dvd in their original theatrical forms, not counting the GOUT of course which is a laserdisc dump. If GL's going to continue being bias towards the prequels, he should do at minimum a 12-disc set, two discs per movie, one the original release and the other the latest release. That way he could at least try to improve the prequels many consider inferior while also being fair and balanced by including their original versions, something I'll admit would be nice since those star wars flicks I actually did get to see in their original theatrical runs. Since I didn't get to see the OT in its original run, a remastered OOT would also be nice. GL can tinker with the 1997 versions even more for those people who will apparently always be happy with whatever he puts out.
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#288324
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The new look official Star Wars site is up
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Originally posted by: lordjedi
Is it me or do people just hate everything that comes out of LFL related to Star Wars now, just because? It's almost like you're only cool around here if you hate any new Star Wars stuff that's not related to the OOT. I hate the PT as much as the next OT.com reader, but I think it's getting a little ridiculous.


While we're on the topic of the flash pages, it really really got me furious to see that they decided of all the thousands of pages on their site to post links to the "what has changed" articles from when the GOUT was released, especially since it's not even supposed to be on sale anymore at all and it was the 30th anniversary of just one movie not the other two and some of us have been awaiting a remaster and were hoping that would be the day it was announced. It's unbelievable but at least it's gone now that they have some CIV stuff to post.
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#286896
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Hello I'm new and have a question. (re StarWars.com and its message boards)
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Now I know to stay the hell away from the OS's MB. I was curious.

In all honesty, up until the GOUT debacle I thought it was a cool site. That "what has changed?" thing, where they blatantly gave you the impression that the OOT would be 16:9 enhanced when the non-anamorphic news had already broke, that just infuriated me. LFL, it's so simple and yet apparently so complicated.