Fan_edit_fan

30 bucks says Ahsoka shows up. 😆

Just a lazy, unappealing title.

timdiggerm said:

Fan_edit_fan said:

Yeah the song in the trailer was CRINGE…but the season looks fantastic. Why couldn’t they just put orchestral SW music in the trailer? Disney is soo tone deaf

It’s a trailer for people who haven’t seen Season 1, who aren’t Star Wars fans, to try to get them interested.

Yeah I got that…still an awful choice. 🤷‍♂️

Yeah the song in the trailer was CRINGE…but the season looks fantastic. Why couldn’t they just put orchestral SW music in the trailer? Disney is soo tone deaf

Anchorhead said:

Fan_edit_fan said:

This still isn’t going to save this franchise.

The Franchise is 46 years old and includes 12 films, 16 television shows, 110 video games, 380 novels, and nearly 1000 comic books (maybe more, I’m not too sure about my arithmetic). This far in, there’s something for everyone regardless of story preference, age, format, etc. No one thing can save it or sink it at this point. It doesn’t even need saving. It’s a product now, like potato chips. Sometimes they release a Lobster Roll (vile) and sometimes it’s a Salt & Pepper (delicious).

As has long been my thought on the matter - watch what you like, ignore the rest. I can’t fathom why some fans still do battle with a franchise.

Oh, and one awesome 6-hour radio version of the original story. 😉

I wasn’t referring to it’s deep past…the last 4 Disney + SW shows have sank and sank in interest and viewership. Some people are still feeling the damage from the last 4 years and are hoping for something great to change. I’m not waiting on it, but there is alot of discussion online about it. Even I didn’t think I would have to watch soo much bad Star Wars the last 7 years but here we are…and you’ve gotta watch to find out if it’s good for you or not. 🤷‍♂️

Flopsy said:

Fan_edit_fan said:

Speaks alot when everyone has been so let down and disappointed for the last 4 years that they can be elated over a new product that’s “fine”. This still isn’t going to save this franchise. I’m interested to see the numbers of viewers for this series…I imagine the interest is extremely low. At my job there are about 4 casual SW fans and they either haven’t heard of this…didn’t know it was out…didn’t know what it was about…or just weren’t interested. Disney plus just increased it’s monthly rate, pretty hard to hook people now with just “another SW tv show”. 🤷‍♂️

Rather than worry or even think about viewing figures, why don’t you just watch it for yourself (or don’t). Rather than be concerned with what the wider world is or isn’t enjoying, experience it for yourself, and if you enjoy it, good for you, if you don’t then that’s fine too.

Thanks for the lecture. We were just having a discussion and since you didn’t read further…I AM going to watch it tonight. So instead of “being concerned with the wider world” of other commenters you could just not reply to everything…or if you do “that’s fine too.” 😁

Having said that…haha…my friend has Disney plus and I’m going to watch the two episodes tonight.

Speaks alot when everyone has been so let down and disappointed for the last 4 years that they can be elated over a new product that’s “fine”. This still isn’t going to save this franchise. I’m interested to see the numbers of viewers for this series…I imagine the interest is extremely low. At my job there are about 4 casual SW fans and they either haven’t heard of this…didn’t know it was out…didn’t know what it was about…or just weren’t interested. Disney plus just increased it’s monthly rate, pretty hard to hook people now with just “another SW tv show”. 🤷‍♂️

Omni said:

A film should work within itself regardless of what Episode it is or something. ROTS is quite competent at establishing their relationship and what is it that falls apart - ditto for Anakin!s relationship to Padmé. Not a surprise it was reviewed more positively than all other Lucas SW films upon release - with the exception of the original.

Well, establishing what “it is” and the audience actually experiencing and feeling it…are two different things. And I wouldn’t say Episode 3 does the job well considering Anakin and Obiwan separate on their own missions for a majority of the film. Obi-Wan isn’t even present during the whole “turn” and major plays that went down on Coruscant. Obi-Wan basically fights him just because he’s on an assigned Jedi mission from Yoda to take out the “other half” of the Sith duo situation. I think it’s a stretch to say ROTS stands on its own. And these movies KNOW they are parts of a trilogy. Return of the Jedi doesn’t really stand on its own.

C’mon back Andor! I need a breathe of fresh air since all the mediocrity that came after the first season.

Lest we forget, the movies absolutely didn’t BOTHER to tell us how the hell that lightsaber was found and brought back into the plot 30 years later. Remember that awful idea they had for the opening of TFA where after the crawl you’d think you were seeing a giant spaceship, but it turns into a force perspective gag where it would reveal its Luke’s lightsaber from ESB…floating through space for 30 years with Luke’s severed hand still on it. Then it hits Jakkus atmosphere and the hand disintegrates but the lightsaber falls to the ground. And someone immediately picks it up. Just so dumb and awkward.

Who would have thought soo many of these directors would be so completely out of touch with making further stories and films?? Abrams talked about loving SW OT for years before there was a sequel trilogy and his work on Star Trek showed that he’d rather be making SW films. How could he have started Episode 7 like that? Now when directors get on an IP and mention being “huge fans” it makes me worry.

Superweapon VII said:

Fan_edit_fan said:

Superweapon VII said:

JadedSkywalker said:

You want me to do homework, play every game, read every comic, and novel to understand your terrible movie, you failed.

Their goal is to make you consume product. From that perspective, they’ve succeeded.

Not if he didn’t buy any of the product. 😁

I was using the generic you, y’know. 😛

The “Royal” we.

Superweapon VII said:

JadedSkywalker said:

You want me to do homework, play every game, read every comic, and novel to understand your terrible movie, you failed.

Their goal is to make you consume product. From that perspective, they’ve succeeded.

Not if he didn’t buy any of the product. 😁

ouroboros1995 said:

To me personally, the two best movies out of the six are The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.
Other movies I simply can not count.

Interesting…you cannot count original Star Wars '77?

Superweapon VII said:

TCW’s commando droids are what the PT’s battle droids should’ve been.

That would absolutely have been better than the B1 droids. Still…it’s why I like the Umbara arc, it showed the Seperatists doing their own fighting against Republic armies and gave it more stakes. When every other Separatist planet just uses battle droids it makes the whole conflict just feel like The Terminator. Defeat the machines!

I liked the Umbara arc…it showed the gritty combat of the war with General Skywalker in the thick of it. Plus the human Umbarans with their “fighting gas” pumping through their helmets was WAY more captivating to see in battle than the idiotic battle droids. Battle droids in general kinda ruin the idea of the Clone Wars to me…especially with how stupid they are. It’s just ridiculous to think the SW galaxy was being threatened by spindly robots who were programmed to think and talk like the 3 stooges. When George decides he needs humor he NEVER knows where or how to put it in. 🙄

Speaking of that, I feel like I’ve heard enough Temuera Morrison impression style dialogue to last a life time. I think that’s why I had trouble watching The Bad Batch…I’m just really over “the clones” and going through soo many ins and outs with them as a fan. I’ve got a couple of friends who grew up with the prequel era and they loved clones individually with a passion. You ever met a Star Wars fan who’s all time favorite SW character was Commander Cody?? I have…and even he said The Bad Batch was nauseating with the all-out “New Zealand variant” Clone stuff.

But yeah, just getting to know soo many clones and the Jedi emphasizing that they be individuals made it hard to just accept order 66. The whole “chip” thing is the only story device that works…but that still doesn’t make it good at all. I mean, that chip could have been used WAY earlier on and with alot more effect than just shooting Jedi Generals. And why would you bother with dimwit volunteer Stormtroopers after having your own fully bred robot reacting army? The Bad Batch didn’t sell me on why they were replaced…or why Clones aren’t seen all over the galaxy after those events. You’d think you’d see one of those guys every week on any planet. Oh well.

And there was the whole problem of Lucas writing in the dialogue “The Sith have been extinct for a millennium.” I don’t think anyone was guessing it had been 1,000 freaking years of no conflict with dark side users…it’s really a stretch to portray it like that already. If Ki-Adi had said “The Sith have been extinct for over 100 years” it just would have been more interesting and a better way to set events for the EU.

I think the old Tales of the Jedi comics did the thing we’re talking about. It felt like older tech and clothing…a.more interesting visual style than Jedi robes and Tie Fighter looking ships from the KOTOR style era.

Anakin Starkiller said:

Reminder that George Lucas commissioned several nude twi’lek paintings.

I for one would’ve appreciated Rian Johnson’s quote about Ben and Rey touching being taken a lot more literally, but they obviously couldn’t in family-friendly Star Wars.

Haha, well I know George was obsessed with his Twi’leks but I never heard of him commissioning “nude paintings” of them. You have any evidence for that?

Yeah, Lucas’ spin on Vader even works for his weird midiclorian fixation. It’s like “Well he lost his arms and legs,so there’s not enough midiclorians running through his body now…so he’s less powerful”. Which isn’t great at all.

There’s a reason why these things are debated…because I was there opening day for TPM and nobody understood the crawl or were excited. There’s also a reason why the OT didn’t have soo much question about the events during those years. You don’t watch ANH OR ESB and go “wait, what?” constantly…like the prequels, sequels and the majority of Disney+ offerings. When it’s written tight and cohesive the audience isn’t pulled out by questioning characters making stupid decisions or dialogue while also being confused what the single plot is doing.

Anakin Starkiller said:

BedeHistory731 said:

Do you have some examples of the bad arguments? I can see how a lot of it can be less-than-convincing for some.

I saw them once ages ago, I just remember thinking their arguments were a whole lotta nothing so of course none of them stuck in my head.

Fan_edit_fan said:

Nah, the Plinkett reviews had excellent presentation and idiotic arguments.

That’s bait. 😁

No, I can assure you I am dead serious.

Well, if you can’t even remember anything…what are we talking about? Hah

Nah, the Plinkett reviews had excellent presentation and idiotic arguments.

That’s bait. 😁

Vladius said:

My original point with the RLM tangent was that the criticisms of the prequels were mostly correct. No one has really disagreed with that, just disliked the presentation.

The criticisms are soo true and precise that when friends would ask me “What do think of the prequels?” I would just send them those videos. It was a relief at the time to have those around…saved me about 3 hours of ranting. Someone use to have edits on youtube of the RLM reviews where they cut out all the odd Plinkett skits…far more digestible.

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