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#1492173
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Original Trilogy vs Kenobi: inconsistencies and stretches between... plus in-series issues
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BedeHistory731 said:

Even if yotsuya is being 100% legit, I love that they’re riling up the people here so much. Sometimes the best trolls are the ones who are entirely honest.

At least yotsuya is less predictable than Stardust1138 and doesn’t spam a crap ton of YouTube links. Stardust was under the faulty impression that watching YouTube video essays makes you extra-intelligent. Trolls shouldn’t make you do homework.

There it is…you just love stir the pot…just as I said. You guys are just trollin and using antiquated troll tactics. Please…please don’t try to act like you’re being “smart”.

What…you mad??? You mad!!!

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#1492117
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Original Trilogy vs Kenobi: inconsistencies and stretches between... plus in-series issues
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yotsuya said:

Fan_edit_fan said:

yotsuya said:

Emre1601 said:

Yotsuya, when mental gymnastics, or going down the proverbial rabbit hole, are required to try to explain inconsistencies and stretches like those listed in the OP, it indicates there are indeed issues in the series.

I enjoyed Obi-Wan Kenobi overall; there was much to enjoy in it, but could not help but notice the many issues I listed in the opening post. For me, it affected my appreciation of the show, and gives me concern for future Star Wars content when there are so many noticeable issues in a much anticipated and high profile series. Though everyone’s “mileage may vary” on this, and am happy that many others did enjoy it, regardless of such issues.

It is partly why I look forward to new Star Wars content away from what has come before. With new characters, in new or rarely seen settings, and in new eras. As from a consistency point of view, it has been demonstrated time and time again there is a real problem with adhering to what was actually established in the Original Trilogy.

I don’t require any mental gymnastics. I kept checking off things that explained what had previously required mental gymnastics. But I didn’t see anything that made new ones.

You’ve been told that repeatedly by many people on this forum and you just get defensive and claim they are all incorrect. I think great many things go right over your head.

Stop thinking you live in a world where people can’t have different opinions and both be right. I’m not saying anyone is incorrect. I’m saying I don’t agree. What is going over your head is that I am stating my opinion. I found this series to solve more issues than it caused. I think a great deal of the issues listed here are nitpicking to a high order. That may be what some truly believe, but that is not my opinion and I don’t have to agree.

Dude you just disagree with ANY criticism. You just like to ramble exotic excuses (I’m sure you disagree). But when you claim “I see NOTHING wrong with this series or any of the films” it just makes you come across as a sycophant…meaning you would never notice a flaw even if it slapped you in the face. The odd arguments you keep typing out are just derailing and argumentative for the sake of it. And before you start getting insensitive about this post, I have to mention MANY people have tried to explain things to you and you choose to create silly excuses to pretend you have it all figured out and it’s perfect. I honestly don’t know why you post here sometimes.

I’ll put my Saber on low power and leave this topic. You’re giving the adults headaches.

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#1492060
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Original Trilogy vs Kenobi: inconsistencies and stretches between... plus in-series issues
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yotsuya said:

Emre1601 said:

Yotsuya, when mental gymnastics, or going down the proverbial rabbit hole, are required to try to explain inconsistencies and stretches like those listed in the OP, it indicates there are indeed issues in the series.

I enjoyed Obi-Wan Kenobi overall; there was much to enjoy in it, but could not help but notice the many issues I listed in the opening post. For me, it affected my appreciation of the show, and gives me concern for future Star Wars content when there are so many noticeable issues in a much anticipated and high profile series. Though everyone’s “mileage may vary” on this, and am happy that many others did enjoy it, regardless of such issues.

It is partly why I look forward to new Star Wars content away from what has come before. With new characters, in new or rarely seen settings, and in new eras. As from a consistency point of view, it has been demonstrated time and time again there is a real problem with adhering to what was actually established in the Original Trilogy.

I don’t require any mental gymnastics. I kept checking off things that explained what had previously required mental gymnastics. But I didn’t see anything that made new ones.

You’ve been told that repeatedly by many people on this forum and you just get defensive and claim they are all incorrect. I think great many things go right over your head.

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#1491851
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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Kaweebo said:

Beyond the inconsistencies and contradictions with what we see later, the thing that kills me most with this series is the over-re-contextualization of the scene in Obi-Wan’s hut in the first movie. We’ve already got Obi-Wan “from a certain point of view”-ing the events of the prequel trilogy that subtext drips out of every word he says. It was perfect the way it was after RotJ and only bolstered by RotS.

But now not only is Obi-Wan lying about Anakin, here comes Leia who is ALSO lying about her experience with Obi-Wan and he also doesn’t tell Luke any of this for some reason, as well as the fact that Leia never brings this up later. So now, nearly every character is a liar in that movie except Luke, who may or may not have knowledge of what happened to him cause hey, guess what, he was attacked by an Inquisitor lady at 10 years old! Doesn’t that add so much??

After 45 years, nearly half a century, it just comes off as too much, too late. We shouldn’t STILL be pretending like there’s hidden secrets in ANH. Its story is complete, and the idea that the Disney writers were “adding context” to George’s work is just insulting.

Very well put, couldn’t agree more.🤷‍♂️

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#1490976
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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When three out of four people disagree it’s not “dogpiling”…you’re being too sensitive for a critical debate. It also doesn’t mean the argument must allow validation just because they keep making up silly excuses like “his Saber was on low power”. That’s not acceptable, it’s just making stuff up to constantly pretend you have proven yourself correct.

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#1490955
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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BedeHistory731 said:

Fan_edit_fan said:

BedeHistory731 said:

Fan_edit_fan said:

yotsuya said:

adywan said:

I find it so hard to understand how people can defend the writing on this series and say that it’s well made. In episodes 5 & 6 they used the exact same scenario. What’s worse is that, if you watch these two episodes one after another, this blatant repeating happens within about 15 minutes.

Episode 5: They are in danger with a technical problem stopping them from being able to escape. Obi-Wan decides to sacrifice himself so that the others can escape because he knows it’s him that Vader wants, not them. Obi-Wan goes to Haja and asks him to take care of Leia. Roka tries to talk him out of it but Obi-Wan leaves.

Approx 15 minutes later…

Episode 6: They are in danger with a technical problem stopping them from being able to escape. Obi-Wan decides to sacrifice himself so that the others can escape because he knows it’s him that Vader wants, not them. Obi-Wan goes to Haja and asks him to take care of Leia. Roka tries to talk him out of it but Obi-Wan leaves.

And i bet Qui-Gon is mighty pissed because , in this show, you can get skewered with a lightsaber in the stomach and through the spine and live.

And then there is the final Obi/ Vader fight. It’s set out right from the start of that duel that Obi_wan is prepared to kill vader. “Have you come to destroy me Obi_wan?”. “I will do what i must”. But then lets him live, even after he knows that the person who was once his friend has gone and all that is left is a monster. I know Vader has to survive because of ANH, but doing it this way is ridiculous.

Your summary is over simplistic. I’m sure there are similarities, but it is not the exact same situation. For one thing, the first time Kenobi is just going to delay and fully intends to return (but you never know). The second time he is leaving and knows he won’t rejoin them. The reaction of those around him is different and the story plays out different. There is a ghost of a similarity between the two incidents and you are focusing on that rather than the whole picture.

Also, getting stabbed in the gut can lead to instant death or a recoverable injury depending on where it was and how it was delivered. Qui-gon was stabbed (very clearly) through the middle of his gut. Severing his main artery and vein and possibly severing his spine and damaging the organs in front. He was human after all. We don’t see where Reva gets stabbed. In the gut, but just how is not shown. Same with the grand inquisitor (but he is not human so we don’t know what internal damage he might have sustained). Maul is cut in half, but other than an instant spray of blood, there is no blood. So whatever was cut was sealed. So he could have lived (with some help). He also isn’t human so we don’t know his internal organ arrangement to know what was cut off. Reva is clearly still wounded when she gets to Tatooine. So all the wounds are not the same so expecting the same outcome is unrealistic.

I found the series to be well written with care given to filling in the gaps between the PT and OT. It fixed more than it broke and put a new spin on certain events. I found the acting to be superb, the sets to be what I’d expect, the backgrounds fitting, and everything assembled into a nicely finished series. I don’t know that I would change a thing about it, though I wouldn’t mind seeing a film edit of it. Something a little faster paced.

Good grief man…every time.

No need to rag on a guy for providing justifications. I’ve found his posts insightful, even if I disagree at times.

They want to love every bit of the product and combat any actual justified criticisms…stretching logic further. Not “ragging” on em…just blows me away how they can’t understand the flaws. It’s like constantly saying “No it’s super smart, you just don’t get it”.

They do understand the flaws that you see and have tried to explain them logically and soundly. If you feel like you’re being talked down to by them, or they’re acting like an idiot, that’s entirely on you. Can’t they have their own interpretation without people like you leaping down their throats?

I think you’re “blowing it out of proportion” now. If I don’t sense any “sound logic” like you claim then the discussion must continue. Chill out.

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#1490935
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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BedeHistory731 said:

Fan_edit_fan said:

yotsuya said:

adywan said:

I find it so hard to understand how people can defend the writing on this series and say that it’s well made. In episodes 5 & 6 they used the exact same scenario. What’s worse is that, if you watch these two episodes one after another, this blatant repeating happens within about 15 minutes.

Episode 5: They are in danger with a technical problem stopping them from being able to escape. Obi-Wan decides to sacrifice himself so that the others can escape because he knows it’s him that Vader wants, not them. Obi-Wan goes to Haja and asks him to take care of Leia. Roka tries to talk him out of it but Obi-Wan leaves.

Approx 15 minutes later…

Episode 6: They are in danger with a technical problem stopping them from being able to escape. Obi-Wan decides to sacrifice himself so that the others can escape because he knows it’s him that Vader wants, not them. Obi-Wan goes to Haja and asks him to take care of Leia. Roka tries to talk him out of it but Obi-Wan leaves.

And i bet Qui-Gon is mighty pissed because , in this show, you can get skewered with a lightsaber in the stomach and through the spine and live.

And then there is the final Obi/ Vader fight. It’s set out right from the start of that duel that Obi_wan is prepared to kill vader. “Have you come to destroy me Obi_wan?”. “I will do what i must”. But then lets him live, even after he knows that the person who was once his friend has gone and all that is left is a monster. I know Vader has to survive because of ANH, but doing it this way is ridiculous.

Your summary is over simplistic. I’m sure there are similarities, but it is not the exact same situation. For one thing, the first time Kenobi is just going to delay and fully intends to return (but you never know). The second time he is leaving and knows he won’t rejoin them. The reaction of those around him is different and the story plays out different. There is a ghost of a similarity between the two incidents and you are focusing on that rather than the whole picture.

Also, getting stabbed in the gut can lead to instant death or a recoverable injury depending on where it was and how it was delivered. Qui-gon was stabbed (very clearly) through the middle of his gut. Severing his main artery and vein and possibly severing his spine and damaging the organs in front. He was human after all. We don’t see where Reva gets stabbed. In the gut, but just how is not shown. Same with the grand inquisitor (but he is not human so we don’t know what internal damage he might have sustained). Maul is cut in half, but other than an instant spray of blood, there is no blood. So whatever was cut was sealed. So he could have lived (with some help). He also isn’t human so we don’t know his internal organ arrangement to know what was cut off. Reva is clearly still wounded when she gets to Tatooine. So all the wounds are not the same so expecting the same outcome is unrealistic.

I found the series to be well written with care given to filling in the gaps between the PT and OT. It fixed more than it broke and put a new spin on certain events. I found the acting to be superb, the sets to be what I’d expect, the backgrounds fitting, and everything assembled into a nicely finished series. I don’t know that I would change a thing about it, though I wouldn’t mind seeing a film edit of it. Something a little faster paced.

Good grief man…every time.

No need to rag on a guy for providing justifications. I’ve found his posts insightful, even if I disagree at times.

They want to love every bit of the product and combat any actual justified criticisms…stretching logic further. Not “ragging” on em…just blows me away how they can’t understand the flaws. It’s like constantly saying “No it’s super smart, you just don’t get it”.

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#1490934
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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To me, the only good thing that could have come from this being a movie or a trilogy would be that they wouldn’t have hired a television director and they would have put WAY more attention to the budget and special effects. I’m not confident we would have gotten better writing or plot though. This being one gigantic young Leia adventure was the wrong way to go imo, just unnecessary.

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#1490922
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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yotsuya said:

adywan said:

I find it so hard to understand how people can defend the writing on this series and say that it’s well made. In episodes 5 & 6 they used the exact same scenario. What’s worse is that, if you watch these two episodes one after another, this blatant repeating happens within about 15 minutes.

Episode 5: They are in danger with a technical problem stopping them from being able to escape. Obi-Wan decides to sacrifice himself so that the others can escape because he knows it’s him that Vader wants, not them. Obi-Wan goes to Haja and asks him to take care of Leia. Roka tries to talk him out of it but Obi-Wan leaves.

Approx 15 minutes later…

Episode 6: They are in danger with a technical problem stopping them from being able to escape. Obi-Wan decides to sacrifice himself so that the others can escape because he knows it’s him that Vader wants, not them. Obi-Wan goes to Haja and asks him to take care of Leia. Roka tries to talk him out of it but Obi-Wan leaves.

And i bet Qui-Gon is mighty pissed because , in this show, you can get skewered with a lightsaber in the stomach and through the spine and live.

And then there is the final Obi/ Vader fight. It’s set out right from the start of that duel that Obi_wan is prepared to kill vader. “Have you come to destroy me Obi_wan?”. “I will do what i must”. But then lets him live, even after he knows that the person who was once his friend has gone and all that is left is a monster. I know Vader has to survive because of ANH, but doing it this way is ridiculous.

Your summary is over simplistic. I’m sure there are similarities, but it is not the exact same situation. For one thing, the first time Kenobi is just going to delay and fully intends to return (but you never know). The second time he is leaving and knows he won’t rejoin them. The reaction of those around him is different and the story plays out different. There is a ghost of a similarity between the two incidents and you are focusing on that rather than the whole picture.

Also, getting stabbed in the gut can lead to instant death or a recoverable injury depending on where it was and how it was delivered. Qui-gon was stabbed (very clearly) through the middle of his gut. Severing his main artery and vein and possibly severing his spine and damaging the organs in front. He was human after all. We don’t see where Reva gets stabbed. In the gut, but just how is not shown. Same with the grand inquisitor (but he is not human so we don’t know what internal damage he might have sustained). Maul is cut in half, but other than an instant spray of blood, there is no blood. So whatever was cut was sealed. So he could have lived (with some help). He also isn’t human so we don’t know his internal organ arrangement to know what was cut off. Reva is clearly still wounded when she gets to Tatooine. So all the wounds are not the same so expecting the same outcome is unrealistic.

I found the series to be well written with care given to filling in the gaps between the PT and OT. It fixed more than it broke and put a new spin on certain events. I found the acting to be superb, the sets to be what I’d expect, the backgrounds fitting, and everything assembled into a nicely finished series. I don’t know that I would change a thing about it, though I wouldn’t mind seeing a film edit of it. Something a little faster paced.

Good grief man…every time.

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#1490684
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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If this is all to make excuses for Ben not killing Vader in the Kenobi show…well it just seems like it’s getting ridiculous and over thinking what those writers couldn’t be bothered with…plus Obi-Wan has executed “lesser” villains and dark siders. It was Luke’s idea to try and be passive with his confrontation…that’s what makes Luke interesting, he knew a better path than Ben or Yoda would gamble with.

Why is this all being convoluted to make sense of a terribley written/cash grab tv show?

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#1490678
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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But what’s with the obsession with not taking out a mass murderer who destroyed the Jedi order and brought death and oppression to the galaxy?

“I can’t kill my own father” -Luke

“Then the Emperor has already won…you were our last hope” -Obi-Wan

WHY is this bit of dialog confusing and causing stretched out theories of “interpretation”?

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#1490574
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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Kaweebo said:

BedeHistory731 said:

I’d say we had it right in the post-PT years with the discrediting and any attempts at revisionism have been straight-up apologia.

Plinkett was right and continues to be more and more right (minus the cringey sketch bits and “dark humor” in the videos).

Well, except the part where he vouched for JJ Abrams to direct the Star Wars sequel trilogy :p

Not sure if he vouched for him being a co-writer.

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#1490460
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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yotsuya said:

Servii said:

“Star Wars was always poorly written” is an argument I really take issue with. If the original film were poorly written, none of us would even be here with our attachment to this franchise.

I think the dialog might be the part that was poorly written. It was full of odd technobabble that has led to several retcons. Like Kessel run in 12 parsecs.

I think the flow of the story was well done. It shows in the script and was improved in the editing room.

The dialog was partly saved because of a lot of redubbing.

and really, if you read Lucas’s writing and editing process, the original film was saved by Lucas getting a lot of input. and for TESB he turned to a very skilled writer. For the PT it was almost all on him and his flaws stand out more.

So what? Haha…just making excuses again. The flow of the story is one of the most insulting parts of the show…can’t blame just “dialog” alone. Every plot point of how people go from one thing to the next, one place to the other is ALL contrived in this show. And pointing fingers at how things needed extra help for sharpening in the past just disapproves your point further. Because OBVIOUSLY this script wasn’t gone over with a fine comb to flesh out the logistical details.

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#1490431
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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Most of us REALLY WANTED this show to be good…not too much to ask for considering you have another shot at making the prequel characters more interesting and better direction. And some fans just get excited seeing lightsabers and don’t notice anything else…yet they’re the first ones to get mad at any constructive criticism. Baffling.

“Obi-Wan kenobi haters”…that’s hilariously childish.

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#1490424
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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FrederikOlsen said:

Servii said:

“Star Wars was always poorly written” is an argument I really take issue with. If the original film were poorly written, none of us would even be here with our attachment to this franchise.

To be fair, assuming you refer to my post and the outrage it seems to have sparked, I never said Star Wars was poorly written. I said it’s not the most well-written franchise, and I stand by that. Lots of things were clearly made up on the go and the first film was more or less saved in editing.

There may not be anything as egregious as Reva’s inexplicable escape in the OT, but I’ll be damned if the Obi-Wan Kenobi haters would have accepted “from a certain point of view” or the passionate kiss between Luke and Leia followed by the revelation that they’re siblings and one party has “always known” if either of those happened in a current series or film franchise.

Misteps are not a “consistency” you have to keep…there’s no excuse to not do things better than what came before. It’s called learning from mistakes. Some fans act like if it hasn’t got a lot of “dumb” in it then it isn’t “Star Wars”. Just further making excuses for bad, amateur writing.

“There’s been stupid things before so we HAVE to keep making it stupid”.

Please.

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#1490422
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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FrederikOlsen said:

Servii said:

“Star Wars was always poorly written” is an argument I really take issue with. If the original film were poorly written, none of us would even be here with our attachment to this franchise.

To be fair, assuming you refer to my post and the outrage it seems to have sparked, I never said Star Wars was poorly written. I said it’s not the most well-written franchise, and I stand by that. Lots of things were clearly made up on the go and the first film was more or less saved in editing.

There may not be anything as egregious as Reva’s inexplicable escape in the OT, but I’ll be damned if the Obi-Wan Kenobi haters would have accepted “from a certain point of view” or the passionate kiss between Luke and Leia followed by the revelation that they’re siblings and one party has “always known” if either of those happened in a current series or film franchise.

Misteps are not a “consistency” you have to keep…there’s no excuse to not do things better than what came before. It’s called learning from mistakes. Some fans act like if it hasn’t got a lot of “dumb” in it then it isn’t “Star Wars”. Just further making excuses for bad, amateur writing.

“There’s been stupid things before so we HAVE to keep making it stupid”.

Please.

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#1490409
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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henzINNIT said:

MalaStrana#2 said:

FrederikOlsen said:
It’s never been a particularly well-written franchise, IMO.

ANH is considered one of the best scripts ever written. It’s still being studied in film school for ts achievements, thanks to Lucas rewitting it to perfect it numberous times. TESB is simply the continuation of this high quality standard rooted in the foundation of a perfect script. Only what came after wasn’t as good and was sometimes even quite terrible, such as this tv show.

The original Star Wars was saved in editing by cutting great chunks out of that script.

Regardless…

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#1490337
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Matt.F said:

Fan_edit_fan said:

Matt.F said:

Fan_edit_fan said:

Anyway, I stand by my point that a Jedi executing a fallen foe would be completely out of character with the compassion and chivalry that is their code.

Yeah, it’s real chivalrous to get people’s kids to commit murder because you’re just too “compassionate” to carry through with it. Mace Windu was about to split Palpatine in two while he was mutilated on the floor yelling “No don’t!”. Obi-Wan cut Maul in half like a savage…and shot Greivous soo many times he exploded. There’s no “code” in leaving Vader alive in the show, it’s just irresponsible writing.

Yes, of course they kill their opponents in combat (Maul and Greivous). You’ll also remember that Mace had gone to arrest Palpatine - not execute him - before the situation suddenly went nuclear.

How does that change anything I stated? Obi-Wan and Vader were opposing combatants. Mace was trying to arrest with the intent to kill if necessary, you just can’t claim Jedi won’t finish off opponents because of their “chivalrous code”. There’s not even any evidence for it.

The whole saga is based around Anakin executing a fallen opponent and turning to the Dark Side, and Luke sparing a fallen opponent and becoming a true Jedi.

Even in this particular TV show we have this rather memorable line;

“Do you know the key to hunting a Jedi, friend? It is patience. Jedi cannot help what they are. Their compassion leaves a trail.”

Well I guess there’s no chance of getting you to understand your own contradiction.

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#1490315
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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Matt.F said:

Fan_edit_fan said:

Anyway, I stand by my point that a Jedi executing a fallen foe would be completely out of character with the compassion and chivalry that is their code.

Yeah, it’s real chivalrous to get people’s kids to commit murder because you’re just too “compassionate” to carry through with it. Mace Windu was about to split Palpatine in two while he was mutilated on the floor yelling “No don’t!”. Obi-Wan cut Maul in half like a savage…and shot Greivous soo many times he exploded. There’s no “code” in leaving Vader alive in the show, it’s just irresponsible writing.

Yes, of course they kill their opponents in combat (Maul and Greivous). You’ll also remember that Mace had gone to arrest Palpatine - not execute him - before the situation suddenly went nuclear.

How does that change anything I stated? Obi-Wan and Vader were opposing combatants. Mace was trying to arrest with the intent to kill if necessary, you just can’t claim Jedi won’t finish off opponents because of their “chivalrous code”. There’s not even any evidence for it.

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#1490311
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The Kenobi <s>Movie</s> Show (Spoilers)
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Anyway, I stand by my point that a Jedi executing a fallen foe would be completely out of character with the compassion and chivalry that is their code.

Yeah, it’s real chivalrous to get people’s kids to commit murder because you’re just too “compassionate” to carry through with it. Mace Windu was about to split Palpatine in two while he was mutilated on the floor yelling “No don’t!”. Obi-Wan cut Maul in half like a savage…and shot Greivous soo many times he exploded. There’s no “code” in leaving Vader alive in the show, it’s just irresponsible writing.

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#1490250
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fmalover said:

I’ve decided this series didn’t generate enough interest for me to check it out.

It’s supposedly garnering soo much praise I have lost hope in the fan base even caring about SW being presented with care and quality…which OF COURSE it should. People want a “season 2” from this and not because they want to see a better attempt…but because they want MORE of what we got.

For some reason I love this IP soo much that I actually still hold out hope for Andor to be very good, and maybe I still hold out hope for Filoni live action…not perfect but better than what we’ve had for the last two SW series. To me, TBOBF was extremely mediocre in writing and execution…but Kenobi went above and beyond having common sense. Faverou is now a bit iffy to me because he wrote a majority of TBOBF. Does anyone remember Mandalorian? Haha…wow that was good and fun.