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#313629
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(SPOILER) new "STAR TREK" 2009 spoiler thread (SPOILER)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/313629/action/topic#313629
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PSYCHO_DAYV said:

WHIC HAS MORE CONTINUITY FLAWS STAR TREK OR THE STAR WARS PT?


I'll answer that after 28 combined seasons of a "Star Wars" related live action T.V. series, as well as 5 more live action movies, and Spread over 41+ years. Also after "Star Wars" dogma has had at least the input of 4 or more production teams and producer regime changes to deal with, and also hundreds of story writers input to shape it.

But truth be told, It's all just Apples and Oranges.

I think "Star Trek" has done a great job in using the best parts of it's own history and changing some things to fit as well as they could to keep the story fresh and exciting over 41 years. Sure there are big errors in continuity, but I feel they are acceptable to most fans.
The big ones in Trek that I can think of off the top of my head are the ones like Zefram Cochran in The film "First Contact" was from Earth, but in the original series he was said to be from Alpha Centauri. Or Khan knowing who Chekhov was in "The Wrath of Kahn" when Mr. Chekhov did not show up on the Enterprise until the second season of the 60's series, and Khan's "Space Seed" episode was in the first. Stuff like that is forgivable to a lot of fans because they made the movies story's better at the time. I can live with it, but I know there are some fans that can't. But, they still say they are fans. Funny that.

The way I see it "Star Wars" had 3 kick ass films, and "Star Trek" had 3.
So far...

FF
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#313577
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New Hulk Film
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/313577/action/topic#313577
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It's about time this trailer came out.

The best thing this film has going for it so far is Edward Norton. I'm not too happy with the CGI shown so far. The story looks cut and dry. Did we need a new Hulk film so soon after the last one?

Now if "Iron Man" sucks, this Hulk film will not do well at all. But I still think "Iron Man" will blow this film's box office gross away. I still think the last Hulk film will hurt this as well. A lot of people did not like it at all.

And, the U.S. government and the Army as the Bad guy? Oh my! There goes that "liberal Hollywood" again. lol

FF
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#313570
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Soldier Shoots Dog With Smoke Round
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/313570/action/topic#313570
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"Now for something completely different"

Here is a "feel good" story for you all on how dogs are used to help rehabilitate soldiers.

Dogs therapeutic for recovering soldiers

By Brendan McGarry - Staff writer
Posted : Monday Nov 26, 2007 13:01:21 EST

For a moment, the lobby of Walter Reed Army Medical Center looked like a veterinary clinic.

About 20 curious canines and their handlers gathered near the hospital’s main entrance on a recent weekday to visit recovering combat veterans.

The tail-wagging and wet noses drew instant smiles from family members sitting nearby. Strangers and owners rubbed the heads, jowls and backs of mostly light-haired breeds, from golden retriever to Shetland sheepdog. Wisps of blond fur wafted above the ground.

“The joke in our house is dog hair is a condiment,” one of the handlers quipped.

Noticeable among the pack was Marlee, a dark-haired 3-year-old Australian shepherd mix who — like many of the soldiers upstairs — was missing a limb.

Karen Lanz adopted Marlee more than a year ago. She said Marlee’s leg had been badly injured, probably in a car accident, and doctors had amputated it.

Many of the patients she meets, particularly the amputees, have a soft spot for Marlee, Lanz said.

“They can relate to her,” she said. “They’ll say, ‘Wow, I’m missing a leg, too.’”

Lanz is a volunteer with People Animals Love, a nonprofit organization whose members visit Walter Reed with their specially certified four-legged friends every other week for about two hours. The idea behind the pet therapy program is similar to others at hospitals across the country: bring a cheerful distraction to patients facing serious injury or illness.

The dogs that bring the cheer are screened to make sure they’ll be suitable. To be eligible for the program, each dog must be more than a year old and must have successfully completed the American Kennel Club’s Canine Good Citizen test, said Molly Morgan, a PAL pet therapy team leader at Walter Reed. She carefully screens each would-be team during a minimum of three hospital visits.

Finding volunteers isn’t a problem. “We have a waiting list of 30 people,” she said.

The dogs don’t just absorb attention, they absorb stress — an especially important therapeutic benefit for soldiers recovering from injuries sustained in Iraq and Afghanistan, the volunteers said.

“Science has proven that pet therapy helps drop blood pressure a little bit,” Morgan said.

“Dogs absorb stress like a sponge,” she said. “They can feel it long before you and I can feel it.”

Soldiers rehabilitating in the physical therapy and occupational therapy wards reacted to the dogs immediately during a visit Nov. 9.

“She’s a pretty girl,” Sgt. Bruce Dunlap said, referring to Hannah, a purebred golden retriever who, along with her owner, Sandi Getler, stopped by his workout machine.

Dunlap, 29, of Kansas City, Mo., served in Iraq as part of the Kansas Army National Guard’s 161st Field Artillery unit. On Dec. 11, 2006, he was riding in an armored Humvee that was hit by an improvised explosive device. The blast and accompanying shrapnel broke both of his hands, severed fingertips, and sliced open his left arm and both of his legs.

In therapy at Walter Reed, Dunlap was sweating on a machine that resembled a cross between a treadmill and kayak. A bag around his waist filled with pressurized air, reducing his weight and allowing him to jog.

He said he recently completed the Marine Corps Marathon on a hand-crank bike and plans to become a school teacher and coach. “If I can get through this, I can do anything,” he said.

Dunlap said he welcomes the presence of the playful dogs. “They bring a little touch of home,” he said.

Others agreed.

Spc. David Cordick, 35, of Watkins Glen, N.Y., served in Iraq with 4th Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division. He was shot by a sniper three weeks into his tour.

The bullet fractured his right humerus bone and cut in half the nerves that provide mobility and sensation to the arm.

“He basically has a dead arm,” explained Maj. Matthew St. Laurent, an occupational therapist working with Cordick. “You could stab him with a knife and he wouldn’t feel any of it.”

Cordick said the several appointments he has each day at Walter Reed can be overwhelming.

“Sometimes, I wonder if it would’ve been easier if they just amputated it,” he said. “Now, I probably got two years ahead of me just to hold a cup of coffee.”

The dogs help him cope with his situation.

Cordick likes to see George, a spunky golden retriever assigned to the OT ward. “It gives you a piece of normalcy,” he said. “It takes you out of the hospital.”

Morgan said patients sometimes decline offers to visit with one of her “dogs-de-camp.”

“The goal is to not intrude,” she said. “Our goal is to give them respite from the pain and horror that they’re going through, even if it’s only for a minute or two.”

Despite the relatively brief visit, the dogs are usually exhausted from the ordeal and sleep for hours afterward, volunteers said.

“For humans, they understand the environment, what the mission is and what they’re supposed to be doing,” said William Waybourn, who said his long-haired German shepherd, Hank, always naps after the hospital visits. “For dogs, they’re constantly being paraded around. There’s a lot being asked of them.”

Hank was popular with the patients and staff, often falling onto his back for a belly scratch. PAL was the brainchild of Dr. Earl Strimple, a former captain in the Army Veterinary Corps who founded the organization in 1981 to bring animals to the newly bereaved.

Today, PAL has more than 300 volunteers in the metropolitan Washington, D.C., area and even offers an after-school program for at-risk kids featuring guinea pigs, rabbits, parakeets and lizards.

Strimple said his volunteers have been visiting Walter Reed since about 2000.

“It brings a home environment to the warriors there, someone for them to talk to,” he said. “Dogs are nonjudgmental. They don’t care what you look like.”

Source: http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/11/army_therapydogs_071124/
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#313565
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Soldier Shoots Dog With Smoke Round
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/313565/action/topic#313565
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OMFG! You still need to read! No one anyplace in this thread said that THEY HAD TO REHABILITATE THE DOG, it is was just an option. The Marine statment said that some had taken that option. That's great they did. But it was not stated THEY HAD TOO. If they don't want to, or they could not find someone to help the dog, they should just shot it. That is what I said, that is what I meant and that is in my quote. No one said they HAD to rehabilitate it. It was an option, just like them making the thing into a joke was an option for them. Do you understand?
If you see a quote of me saying it was the duty of these marines to rehabilitate that dog, please post it. I have no idea why you have that idea in your head other than you have an issue with reading comprehension.
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#313559
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Soldier Shoots Dog With Smoke Round
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/313559/action/topic#313559
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Stinky-Dinkins said:

FanFiltration said:

That there are soldiers that take such dogs into care and rehabilitate them.


Our soldiers should not in any way be concerned/obligated/expected to take in the stray dogs of Iraq and "rehabilitate" them, on any level.

That's an insane fucking thought you have there.



You are a complete dumb ass. You are still not reading the information. Come on, it's not that hard to do a bit of reading. THE COMMANDER OF THE SOLDIERS made the comment himself about soldiers taking care of the dogs on their own. I said in my own words in the quote I re-posted for you.. "THEY SHOULD HAVE JUST SHOT THE DOG"! OMFG, what a Jack Ass you are!

HERE IT IS AGAIN

I think it's clear that there was other options open to them other then the sadistic actions shown in the film clips. Why did they just not quickly shoot the dog? Yes that would have been the humane and cost effective thing to do. But no, they just stood around and acted like a group of high school boys making jokes and taunting the poor thing.

Now here is the letter from the Commander at Marine Corps that was on the news and everyone who sent a comment to him about the story of the abused dog got back as a reply.

"The video is shocking and deplorable and is contrary to the high standards
we expect of every Marine.

This video came to our attention this yesterday morning, and we have
initiated an investigation. We do not tolerate this type of behavior and
will take appropriate action.

The vast majority of Marines conduct their duties in an honorable manner
that brings great credit upon the Marine Corps and the United States. There
have been numerous stories of Marines adopting pets and bringing them home
from Iraq or helping to arrange life-saving medical care for Iraqi children.
Those are the stories that exemplify what we stand for and how most Marines
behave.

Very Respectfully,
Marine Corps Base Hawaii"

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#313556
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Soldier Shoots Dog With Smoke Round
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/313556/action/topic#313556
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Stinky-Dinkins said:

FanFiltration said:

Originally posted by: Arnie.d
They should put the poor dog walking on 2 legs out of it's misery.

Those vids are ancient btw.


Here is a word for you. "Rehabilitation"



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Yahaha.

The soldiers that did this are cocksuckers, but anyone that believes the owners of these dogs have the means for that sort of silly dog wheelchair is a complete jackass.

The dogs are mostly strays in the middle of bumfuck nowhere. If they have owners they can often barely afford dirt.



I addressed this subject a few posts ago. Read back a bit.

Here, I'll make it simple for you.

Make of it what you will, but I think it's clear that there was other options open to them other then the sadistic actions shown in the film clips. Why did they just not quickly shoot the dog? Yes that would have been the humane and cost effective thing to do. But no, they just stood around and acted like a group of high school boys making jokes and taunting the poor thing. Also, in the one film a soldier is saying how funny it was to see the limping dog in pain.

"I never said that they SHOULD have put this dog into a wheels device; I just reiterated what members of the media and military command have said. That there are soldiers that take such dogs into care and rehabilitate them. There are a number of non-profit organizations that go to places like that, and assist these dogs. I know this for a fact, as I do work for one. There may have been options for that dog, but there is no way of knowing. If those options had not been there in these cases, there was still no reason on earth for the type of teasing done in the video! That is the point!"

I wish people would read an entire thread before adding rude comments. But I know, that's asking a bit too much from a lot of you.
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#313539
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(SPOILER) new "STAR TREK" 2009 spoiler thread (SPOILER)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/313539/action/topic#313539
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Johnny Ringo said:

Yeah, a little birdy [Dayv] pointed that out to me earlier, But Pike wasn't the first captain of the Enterprise [ncc 1701] either.

I'm not saying there's a problem here, Just making an observation.



Yes, the first Captain was Robert April. He was shown in an episode of the short lived cartoon. That episode title is "The Counter-Clock Incident".

When Roddenberry submitted his first proposal for Star Trek to MGM Studios in 1964, his name for the starship commander was "Robert M. April"

He was also used in a few of the official novels. ("Final Frontier" and "Best Destiny" by Diane Carey and in "Crisis on Vulcan" by Brad and Barbara Strickland)
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#313507
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RELEASED: "Star Trek: The Motion Picture (Special Longer Version)"
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/313507/action/topic#313507
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reave said:

How close is this project to completion? I've been toying with a fanedit of STTMP (making the damn thing move a little faster!), but I'm curious to see yours before I commit to anything.


This project is still about 2 months away. Please do your edit. My work right now is on the letterbox edition of the Special Longer Version that was never released in anything but pan and scan. Was trying to get that done first, but I keep having set backs. I would love to see your version.
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#313132
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Soldier Shoots Dog With Smoke Round
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/313132/action/topic#313132
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[quote=lordjedi]

Do you know how old the average soldier is? 18-20 years old. So they ARE a group of high school boys making jokes. Dude, seriously, this is how they cope. How would you cope with seeing friends killed day in and day out during war. You cope by making jokes of things that are less sick then watching a friend die.

The mental state is that they're over in a shit hole country doing whatever they can to stay alive in case some IED blows up and kills them or a friend. The only other option would be to outright shoot the dog. Instead, they chose to have some fun with it. The ONLY reason this is even an issue is because todays soldier has access to cheap, easy to carry video cameras that he can use to upload the video to the Internet.

This would have been a non issue in Vietnam or any other war because you wouldn't have known about it. Since you know about it though, it suddenly becomes an issue.

I don't believe what's needed is better training though. What's needed is better screening for what these guys are accessing on the Internet. I think you'll find any commander hard pressed to come down on his subordinates over shooting a dog that was probably going to die anyway. This is just one more case where the guys in combat should not have access to the Internet or should have anything they end up filming screened.



Poor excuse. I don't buy it. The military leadership does not condone or excuse that type of animal abuse action, and I don't ether. But it seems a few of you do. It's that old "boys will be boys" mentality. I wonder why the Marine Commander did not come out with an excuse like Lordjedi's for his men? Could it be because it's nothing more than a bullshit excuse? I think so.

People had more of a problem with the U.S. killing innocent children and burning down villages in the Vietnam War, and rightfully so. Like it or not, the strong public outcry and protesting of the publicized U.S. miss-actions in that war thankfully ended it. The type of animal abuse shown on the Internet last week has been a strong issue for a heck of a lot of potential voters judging from the media's reported responses. Like it or not that puppy video got a lot of media attention, animal rights groups got lots of support, money, and people motivated. It also got a lot of people re-questioning the U.S. mission and competency of our fighting men in Iraq. And like it or not, people looking at what our military does and exposing it via the Internet is not going to go away. Now, let's be clear. I feel the abuse that the U.S. military did in the area of human rights abuse, torture, sodomy and homicide of prisoners held in the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq was much much worse then the puppy killing video last week. But thankfully no more videos of that magnitude have come to light. For you who need to be reminded of that issue, you can see a video at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz7UNxnOI3M

And yes, people are still making moronic uneducated excuses for that horror story as well.

I for one feel the Internet is a great tool in an age where political leaders (such as Bush) have tried to curtail the media from telling negative stories from behind the lines. Public opinion has been very strong with this issue of the killing of a puppy, and that alone makes it a valid subject to report on. Some of you will get your over inflated patriotic panties in a twist about any ridiculing of wrong doing by our fighting boys in uniform, but that's just tough.

FF
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#313090
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Moscow Soon to Be Lone Carrier to Space Station
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/313090/action/topic#313090
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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
another one of our esteemed president's promises not kept, all hail the great bush!

read the article is pretty much spells it out that the lack of funding was because of the whitehouse and bush.

we have no money for space travel since we spent trillions of dollars on a war in Iraq where bin ladin was not there and no wmd.


BINGO!

NASA did have plans for a new craft years ago, but the funding for the new programs kept getting shot down from republican lawmakers who had held the majority in congress, as well as a war bent White House. The lay off at NASA is hurting people in my area of Florida big time. It's not just about a spacecraft, it's also about peoples jobs.

BTW, I'm going to go view the final night launch of a Space Shuttle ever. That's in about 9 hours from now. Should be one hell of a show.

FF

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#313083
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Soldier Shoots Dog With Smoke Round
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/313083/action/topic#313083
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The issue on this topic was that these soldiers stood around chuckling and teasing a disabled animal, and had made it all into a big joke for amusement only. This is just one example of their mental state, and these guys have guns. Make of it what you will, but I think it's clear that there was other options open to them other then the sadistic actions shown in the film clips. Why did they just not quickly shoot the dog? Yes that would have been the humane and cost effective thing to do. But no, they just stood around and acted like a group of high school boys making jokes and taunting the poor thing. Also, in the one film a soldier is saying how funny it was to see the limping dog in pain.

It's so funny how some of you cry about how these films are just being used to generalize the actions of ALL soldiers (when that is not the reason), then will turn around and do the same thing to other groups of people by making unfounded statements like "Bleeding heart dog lovers are not into what is possible or practical" or "foreign aid would be used to send wheels to every two legged dog in the world". I never said that they SHOULD have put this dog into a wheels device; I just reiterated what members of the media and military command have said. That there are soldiers that take such dogs into care and rehabilitate them. There are a number of non-profit organizations that go to places like that, and assist these dogs. I know this for a fact, as I do work for one. There may have been options for that dog, but there is no way of knowing. If those options had not been there in these cases, there was still no reason on earth for the type of teasing done in the video! That is the point! It was made into a joke for kicks. And, to film these acts was most likely for the purpose to amuse or offend other people. If you find that excusable, then that's sad. What was that film made for? To be played back years from now for the grand kids, or so they could reminisce about the good old days?

It's important that you all share your opinions here, as it shows us all what kind of people we are as a society. I feel that the actions in the videos are inhumane. These soldiers need to be much better trained; they need more discipline and supervision from someone with better morals. This is where the funds should go. I posted the videos to show how "Some" of our soldiers are acting. I pay these guys with my tax money. The military command staff agrees with me that this should not be the way that their soldiers should be behaving. Clearly the military is not doing its job well enough to weed out the misfits. When videos like this become public, it's the publics right to comment and hold the commanders responsible, and also make public debate. To just stick your head in the sand and believe that everything is O.K. and will be handled without intervention is irresponsible and foolish. Public oversight and criticism of our government’s employees and servicemen is required, a right, and totally acceptable. If you chose to support the actions of the people in the video, that is also your right.

FF
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#313052
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Moscow Soon to Be Lone Carrier to Space Station
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/313052/action/topic#313052
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Moscow Soon to Be Lone Carrier of Astronauts to Space Station.



In 2 1/2 years, just as the station gets fully assembled, the United States will no longer have any spacecraft of its own capable of carrying astronauts and cargo to the station, in which roughly $100 billion is being invested. The three space shuttles will be retired by then, because of their high cost and questionable safety, and NASA will have nothing ready to replace them until 2015 at the earliest.

For five years or more, the United States will be dependent on the technology of others to reach the station, which American taxpayers largely paid for.

Click for full story from The Washington Post

Those most involved with the issue say that its seriousness will become more glaring this summer, when negotiations with Russia begin and Congress is likely to debate whether to grant a waiver to the law that prohibits certain kinds of commerce with nations that support the Iranian or North Korean nuclear program.

[NASA Administrator Michael]Griffin has testified that while the waiver is essential, it is "unseemly, simply unseemly, for the United States -- the world's leading power and leading space power -- to be reduced to purchasing services like this. It affects, in my view, how we are seen in the world, and not for the better."...

FF
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#312453
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US Soldier Throws Puppy Off Cliff!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312453/action/topic#312453
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Yes I did post 3 news stories that have depicted publicly paid people who tend to do some sort of a abuse to an innocent person or animal.

To say that I am going after ALL cops and military would be false. As I do have a right to have an opinion about things I pay for in a nation I live in. And, I will continue to do so. I'm not creating the news story here, the person in the videos did that. They are the persons you should have issue with about making the uniform look bad. For you to say that I personally want "to portray all Soldiers and Police Officers as blood thirsty egotistic bullies and sadists" is purely ridiculous and a over reaction at best. I was in the U.S. Air Force for six years (1987 - 1993) as a security police officer. Part of that time I spent training none other than U.S. Marines (as well as international armed forces personal) at Lackland Air Force Base in Texas. I then worked for my home town police department for 3 years after my discharge. I'm sure if anyone has a right to have a grievance, it would be me. I've also posted a personal account of some wrong doing by a local police officer in my area that was done to me.

You may have had a point if I was pulling these stories out of thin air, but the three news stories I have posted relating to abuse {one: A police officer abusing a child, two: A state security officer abusing a paraplegic man, Three: A U.S. Marine making a video about killing a puppy} had all been widely broadcast by the major News media before I even posted for comments here. To say I have an agenda to discredit ALL Soldiers and Police Officers is just asinine.

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#312429
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Dungeons & Dragons co-inventer Gary Gygax Dies
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312429/action/topic#312429
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This is the man that caused millions of children all over the world to want to have ADD.


Gary Gygax, the man who co-invented a seminal role-playing game Dungeons & Dragons, died Tuesday in Wisconsin. He was 69.

Gygax and Dave Arneson developed Dungeons & Dragons in 1974. The game started a culture of gamers, who now feed a sophisticated multi-billion dollar video and online game industry.

"His innovation created an entirely new type of hobby that now attracts millions of players worldwide," the black-shrouded D&D website said Tuesday.

"He inspired generations of designers, players and authors and he will be sorely missed by legions of fans."

He had been suffering from health problems, but hosted weekly games of Dungeons & Dragons even in January, said his wife, Gail Gygax.

He was creating new material into late 2007. His game Teeth of the Barkash Nour, for example, was published by Troll Lord Games last fall.


Let's see, I can roll a D-20 and try to bring him back with my resurrection spell!
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#312426
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US Soldier Throws Puppy Off Cliff!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/312426/action/topic#312426
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Originally posted by: lordjedi
Originally posted by: FanFiltration
Could it be that some people out there are more upset that the this story is being made into a big deal because a U.S. Marine is involved? And it's more a political frustration to them that this story is being posted all over the internet? Makes me wonder.


Some people? It makes you wonder? I'll answer for you. Yes, they are more upset because it's a U.S. Marine. Thankfully, some are waiting to see if it was for real or not.

Dogs are killed everyday in some countries for food, yet I don't hear you protesting that. Also, apparently, dogs are being shot in Iraq everyday since they could be carrying IEDs. Again, I don't hear you protesting that.


Hit a nerve there, I see.

But I do protest the serious problems of animal mistreatment everyday my friend, but just not here. I help a charity called Romanian Animal Rescue daily by doing gratis work on their web page amongst other work. Was going to be traveling to Romania this spring on a good will mission for the pups, but health issues are keeping me at home. We have done some great work to help raise the conditions for strays in the past two years.

If you want, please help us out. We are giving a new book out {that I helped create} for a $75 donation . I've also used my video background to make promotions that are seen all over the world.

Please use the link below if anyone would like to help out.


http://www.romaniaanimalrescue.com/