I absolutely agree. He wasn't the most well known actor on the planet, but he played very big roles in very big films. He was actually one of the actors I always said that if I was a director, I'd try to find a role for.
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The singing is usually the only thing that will put me off of a metal band. I can take some of the screaming, but if it's an album of continuous screaming, it becomes a bit much. I also don't like the opposite, which is the new fad of whining that is in some of the hipster metal.
The guitarist is the second thing to put me off. If there are no changes to speed and attack, and it's just 100 mph for every song, that's a bit much. I like speed and aggression, but I also like dynamics. You feel the power of the storm if you have that calm before and after.
People in the metal community hate Korn, but I always thought they did an amazing job of heating up and cooling down throughout a song. They'll have a 4 minute song that has more changes and movement than a lot of hour long albums.
Perfect example of buildups, breakdowns, and cooldowns. Might not be metal, but it's dynamic. It moves, changes, and does what music should, it grabs the listener:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igX0ZEJKXsQ
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No problem. I think music should be shared. I literally have no space on my computer, or on my shelves thanks to all the music I have. I've gotten to the point where I have several recordings of one piece, because each has something going for it, that the other doesn't have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4k5oR8V3o7s
Best introduction to Stravinsky you can get. This recording is considered by myself and many others the finest recording of The Rite of Spring, which is Stravinsky's most popular work. Disney's Fantasia introduced me to the piece, but Leonard Bernstein took it to another level. Igor Stravinsky said "Wow!" when he heard this recording!
The Rite of Spring ends at about 34:41. The rest of the video is a second, lesser known piece, The Petrouchka.
I quite enjoy Brahms. His piano works are very on par with Beethoven in style and technicality. Dvorak is one that I've really been giving a lot of attention lately.
Silent Woods - a piece that deserves much more appreciation. Very beautiful. Dvorak is a lot like Beethoven in how he paints scenery with music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZYmFWcHdB4
His New World Symphony is in my top 10 favorite symphonies of all time.
Herbert Von Karajan's pre 80s recording is probably my favorite version. He was growing pretty feeble by the time he recorded the more well known version. This video has the thunder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_1N6_O254g
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Possessed said:
Plus there's the fact that Stevie could sing and play guitar at the same time better than hendrix could sing without playing or play without singing...
Hendrix is a good player, and he's definitely innovative, but also he was sloppy and stevie never was.
Well playing guitar well does not equal to making great music. And SRV is a prime example of that, in my opinion of course. Admittedly, His technique is amazing and he may play 10 notes per second, but I just don't feel anything special about his music. I will take Hendrix any day.
You can invest countless hour in playing guitar and your technique will become flawless. But if you don't have that something special, you will never make great music.
It's the other way around for me. I can listen to SRV all day, and I only really enjoy a handful of Hendrix tunes, but to each his own. I like his bluesier stuff, but not much of his "out there" stuff.
I think the (all speed, not heart) statement works more for Yngwie Malmsteen, Steve Vai, and other big name virtuosos who are all lightning with no depth. They make faces and bend the occasional note, but it's got no feelinig. Steve Vai has a lot of interesting moments in his music, but I find myself becoming quite bored after a short period of time.
^Classical was my first love. My parents had a CD a month kind of a deal with The Musical Heritage Society, so I got a lot of great recordings from the more popular composers. I think I listened to the Amadeus Soundtrack hundreds of times. I also had a box set of Beethoven's Symphonies that I played, and still play a lot today.
I have listened to classical as far back as I can remember. I have memories of being a toddler sitting in front of my parents floor model stereo console for hours. I'd come down stairs on a Saturday morning and start up the music.
Now my classical collection has become huge. I didn't become obsessed with the collection of the albums, it was more a collection of sounds. Mozart is probably my favorite composer, as far as sheer volume of works. I really love the Russian composers from Tchaikovsky to Stravinsky. Beethoven is pretty much tied with Mozart in quality, but Mozart edges him out in quantity.
I've also developed a love of opera over the years. I haven't gone to a live opera, but I've seen a lot of home video releases.
It's become a bit of joke in more recent years, sadly. Showing what we've become used to as a society. I guess Linda Blair will be in a Snickers commercial as her Exorcist character next.
I am a huge Creedence Clearwater Revival fan.
I picked up the guitar because of CCR. I heard the song "Up Around The Bend" on the radio when I was a kid, and I wanted to hear more. So I got their Chronicle Greatest Hits album, and still couldn't get enough. So I got a big box set. I think trying to play along with John Fogerty is probably the biggest reason I didn't give up. Now I still can't help but throw out a Fogerty riff while messing around on the guitar.
I still don't think Fogerty gets enough respect as a player. Everybody holds up Page and Hendrix. Fogerty played guitar like Clapton and sang like Solomon Burke, what more could you ask for?
I agree. Good luck hearing anything besides their handful of rock hits on the radio these days though.
Gosh, could you guys lighten up a bit? What good does fighting on the internet do. I'm not concerned with who started it, I'm just curious as to why so much energy is wasted for something that achieves nothing.
I've been listening to a lot of softer 70's rock, because they don't seem to like to play it on the radio unless it was played through a Marshall stack. Horns seem to be forbidden on my local classic rock stations. Seems like they like to play the same handful of bands and neglect many others. I've almost become tired of Led Zeppelin, and I didn't think that was possible. I used to discover so much great music on the classic rock stations, but now it's like "I've heard that a million times" next song "Didn't you play this an hour ago?"
I've even been listening to some of the oddball bands like War, Steely Dan, and Kool and the Gang. Good bands full of musicians that all let the music carry them.
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This thread reminds me: I really need to finish listening to Der Ring des Nibelungen.
Or, perhaps, begin listening to Parsifal.... or even Lohengrin.
Not easily done. I have Solti's Ring Cycle from the 60's, and it's amazing, but I think I'd probably be more apt to finish the set if I watched the operas.
Coz every stuper hero movies gotta be bigger and betterer than all the others.
That's cool to hear that from Brian Setzer. I definitely agree about it being in his hands, because Stevie played several different guitars and it always sounded like him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYSoJmSMctU
I have many guitars and amps, and I pretty much manage to sound the same on all of them. The color might be slightly different. There might be some different effects and eq settings, but I still do the same things. The action of the strings and the response I get out of the guitar might change my approach to certain notes, but it's still me.
There's an even bigger problem where I'm at. Bands only seem to be looking for drummers and singers. They usually already have guitarists. It's like trying to find a girl at a sausage fest. It doesn't matter how good you are either, bands don't seem to care.
Down here in Houston everybody is wanting to play Red Dirt country, which is essentially a twangier version of that crappy pop country that's played on the radio. I can play country all day long if it's the old 50's - 70's country,
It's a lot of really bad cover bands wanting to relive the 80's, and that's just not my thing. Sure, I've spent a lot of time trying to sound like the guitarist that I'm covering, but that was only to increase my pallet of sounds.
Because my music tastes are so broad, I have developed an odd style that doesn't belong to a single genre, and I think it would be a crime to waste that in a cover band.
I'm not against playing other people's songs, but most cover bands just play what was top 40, years ago. I'm a b-sides man, with a love of folk songs, jazz standards, blues standards, country standards, and anything else that excites me musically. I don't feel that I am a good songwriter, which seems to be all an artist is judged on these days, but I come up with some interesting melodies and different ideas. I think it is sad that musicians have to be songwriters anymore. Sinatra, Elvis, Crosby, and many others didn't write their own music, but they were highly respected.
It seems like after Bob Dylan, everybody had to be a songwriter.
Yeah what Stevie did wasn't terribly complicated, but he did such a good job at it, that it looks and sounds insane. The guy had hands that could crush skulls. He used suspension cables as strings, and bent the living crap out of them. I don't think there is a better blues tone, maybe 70's Ry Cooder, but still Stevie had so much more going on.
I can play along to him, but I need to take a breather after a little bit. He'd put on concerts that would last for hours, and he'd still be tearing the guitar up.
Anytime somebody tries to compare him to Hendrix, I want to sock them in the face. I tell them, you play the guitar for several years, and you'll see a huge difference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWLw7nozO_U
Stevie Ray Vaughan's albums up until In Step were essentially just live albums without an audience. No studio trickery, what you got on record, is what you got live. Hendrix didn't sound remotely similar to the studio recordings when he played live.
Stevie Ray Vaughan. My dad used to talk about his music, and one day he put some headphones over my ears and played the track scuttle buttin'. I have been in love with that man's guitar work ever since. Listening to those records, and trying to keep up with him made me a much better player, though I still don't think I'm quite as good as that man. He was on another level. He was like a mixture of BB King and Eddie Van Halen. He had the lightning and the feeling.
I was on a big Collective Soul kick back in high school. They were definitely one the last great radio rock bands I can think of. They had a concert on TV a few years back, and I watched the whole thing, and enjoyed it quite a bit. "December" is the song that brought them to my attention. Most people usually cite "Shine". I can't count the number of times I've picked up the guitar and played "Where The River Flows" Definitely one of the bands that don't seem to get that much love, yet they have a lot of songs that people know. You still hear them on the radio, but nobody walks around with Collective Soul shirts.
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Been listening to this Danish pop band since their first album, and I have to say I am definitely a big fan. I'm not big on pop, but they know how to make a damn pop record. It sounds like ABBA, Pink Floyd, War, Parliament, and Kool & The Gang were melted together. A very strong retro vibe going on. Like 60's - 80's kind of stuff, but with an electric touch. There's even some jazz thrown in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGCUzwszWBQ
Not every song they do is great, mind you. But the songs that are great, are pretty good. I've been sort of expecting them to explode, but they still haven't really, and they've been doing some big gigs in the states.
The singer's voice is quite different. I think she sounds good on a lot of the songs, but some of the songs probably would've been better without the vocals. I understand, it's kind of hard to come up with a good vocal melody over a piece that is already musically complete. Hence, why Billy Joel doesn't really write anymore.
Governments fall. Civilizations crumble. Generations suffer. People overcome. People grow. People live.
I just want the comfort of not having to censor myself at all times of the day, so that shit won't be used against me later on. Friggin' television sets are listening to us now.
I definitely agree. I think the patriot act should've just been named 1984, because that's exactly how it feels. Yes I can make money and buy things like cars and televisions, while my basic freedoms are melting away while I'm busy staring at a screen wondering why people think this dress is white, when I see blue.
People think I hate my country, but the fact is, I probably love it more than most Americans. My frustration is due to my love of this country. I'm not one of those guys that think the country needs to be like it used to. I think it should be better than it ever has been. The political party system is really what has corrupted the government. There is support no of policies, it's support of a party. You either pick a side or don't pick any.
I agree with some things from the democratic party as well as the republican party, but I have to choose one over the other? Sure, you could say to vote for the 3rd party, but that usually just screws it up for the better of the other 2 choices. It's like Ralph Nader, all he did was help get Bush into the White House by swinging democratic voters his way, of course corruption got Bush into the White House.
This country is turning into a beehive or an ant colony. I wonder how many "terrorist groups" or "cults" were actually small groups wanting to bring forth revolution, and were just swept under the rug as evil people, or nutjobs.
He was in a lot of westerns as Indians, because he had a brown tan, and a tall lean frame, as well as a strong cut face.
Bonanza, Gunsmoke (as 4 different characters), Rawhide, Wagon Train (as 4 different characters), Death Valley Days, The Viriginian, Daniel Boone, Broken Arrow, and many more.
Even if he had never done Star Trek, he had a pretty strong television resume in just the western department. That's not counting all the other big television shows of the 50's and 60's.
I quite like some of her music. I've never dug deep into it, but the handful of songs I've heard from her have all been good, and she's really the only memory I have of watching Grease.