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- The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
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Originally posted by: musicman
The only thing is, if Palps really is able to bring someone to life, then if Anakin knows that this is what happened, then he's going to say that they have to go bring Padme back.
Quite true. But there's nothing in ROTS that stops Anakin/Vader from turning to Palpatine after his big "NO" and asking "Now about that stopping people from dying stuff". This is a big plot hole. You would think it might come up at some point, and that Vader would find out about Palpatine's bluff. So having Vader die doesn't really change much, in my opinion.
C3PX, as far as filling out the end, we can at least have the Dagobah arrival. It's not much, but it's more there. On the other hand, I'm wondering what the effect would be, after seeing that scene in the movie, once you get to ESB.
I'm neutral to the Dagobah scene. It's not bad, but it just doesn't do that much for me. Yoda's identity in ESB won't be a secret to the viewer, so the arrival scene doesn't break anything.
And that brings me to another thought--do we want to have the Qui-Gon speaking to Yoda stuff, a la ADM? I thought that was pretty cool, and the dialogue during the spinning shot addresses Yoda's guilt over the situation effectively.
I think the Qui Gon dialog is a must have, but IMHO I haven't seen an edit that pulled it off right yet.
So, basically the flow would be birth/masking sequence, Obi-Wan and Yoda talk about Qui-Gon, Yoda goes to Dagobah, funeral, Tatooine, and credits?
The only thing is, if Palps really is able to bring someone to life, then if Anakin knows that this is what happened, then he's going to say that they have to go bring Padme back.
Quite true. But there's nothing in ROTS that stops Anakin/Vader from turning to Palpatine after his big "NO" and asking "Now about that stopping people from dying stuff". This is a big plot hole. You would think it might come up at some point, and that Vader would find out about Palpatine's bluff. So having Vader die doesn't really change much, in my opinion.
C3PX, as far as filling out the end, we can at least have the Dagobah arrival. It's not much, but it's more there. On the other hand, I'm wondering what the effect would be, after seeing that scene in the movie, once you get to ESB.
I'm neutral to the Dagobah scene. It's not bad, but it just doesn't do that much for me. Yoda's identity in ESB won't be a secret to the viewer, so the arrival scene doesn't break anything.
And that brings me to another thought--do we want to have the Qui-Gon speaking to Yoda stuff, a la ADM? I thought that was pretty cool, and the dialogue during the spinning shot addresses Yoda's guilt over the situation effectively.
I think the Qui Gon dialog is a must have, but IMHO I haven't seen an edit that pulled it off right yet.
So, basically the flow would be birth/masking sequence, Obi-Wan and Yoda talk about Qui-Gon, Yoda goes to Dagobah, funeral, Tatooine, and credits?
Pretty much. Except I might move Padme's funeral before Yoda's arrival.
And I vote (again) for episode III. I think it will be more satisfying than Episode I. Episode I is a tough one, and I'd prefer to check out lth's Episode I edit before thinking more about it.
ROTJ has a lot of room for improvement. But I think we should handle the prequels first.
I wonder if we can get Adywan to insert the Starkiller Ranch logo at the beginning of his Episode IV.
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