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#765002
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Last movie seen
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TV's Frink said:

Looper (2012)

This was really great, as long as you don't get too tied up in the time travel issues.  One thing I couldn't figure out, and I'm sure I'll feel dumb once someone explains it, is why The Rainmaker was closing all the loops.

 I assumed that it was because he knew his mother was killed by a Looper and wanted revenge.

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#759555
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Request: can someone do a fanedit of the Predator using the original blu ray as a source? the ultimate hunter edition sucks.
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Funcha said:

I'm kind of surprised nobody has taken the Ultimate Hunter Edition Blu, color corrected it and added a grain plate. Curious if that could make it look better than the first edition Blu...

 No. The Ultimate Hunter Edition is literally just the old Bluray master with some color differences and an absolutely ridiculous amount of DNR applied to it. It's bafflingly bad. It has no factors in any way that might make it a better source than the old Bluray.

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#759456
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Info: The films of Sergio Leone - The best available versions...
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The Aluminum Falcon said:

captainsolo said:

From what I've heard the German FAFDM used MGM's transfer but did so without the extra processing and DNR MGM applied so that specks, dirt and grain are more visible.

This is true, yet I still stand by my assessment that the IT BD looks better overall than the DE BD. The MGM master, even with the extra processing taken off, just looks terrible to my eyes. 

That said, the IT does not have English audio. Though, both the 5.1 and mono have been synced to it, the latter by a member of this forum.

I would agree. The IT has much better colors and looks more natural, even if it is softer. The German/MGM transfer has worse colors and a ton of a lot of sharpening and edge enhancement.

The major difference between the German and MGM version is that the MGM has an auto dirt remover applied. Other than that they look the same. I don't think the MGM has any noticeable waxy-style DNR applied to it compared with the DE.

Who synced the mono to the IT? I would love to get that.

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#758265
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'Raiders of the Lost Ark' - bluray and colour timing changes (Released)
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AntcuFaalb said:

msycamore said:

Which means these alterations so far...

* Pan American Clipper Matte Painting: DVD / BBC HD / WOWOW / Canal + HD

* Flight to Nepal: DVD (??? BBC HD / Canal + HD ???)

* Cliff Matte: BBC HD

* Lamppost Matte: BD

(For now) assuming color, reframing, burned-in subtitles, and audio changes are not important, then does that mean that the only altered shot in the WOWOW is the clipper one?

 I think the WOWOW also has the digitally painted-out pole in the bolder scene, right? And the snake glass touch-up (which they all do).

Does anyone have a comparison of the BD Lamppost Matte with the Laserdisc or something? That change seems particularly bizarre, as they rolled back most the digital tweaking from earlier releases and then introduced a new one.

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#758036
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Info Wanted: People seem to think black-crush & white-blow-out are bad, why?
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skoal said:

How often do we have an accurate reference on how it looked in theaters?

 Almost never. Discussions on this forum mostly revolve around cases where it is blatantly obvious that something is wrong.  The 2nd dvd/1st bluray of Ghostbusters amps up contrast to detail crushing extremes, and many complained. This was fixed with the later 4k bluray. Other threads talk about improperly modern (teal/orange style) recoloring of old films. As you mention, it is often impossible to know what the original colors of a film are, but sometimes modern tinkering looks very wrong on old films and colors of earlier releases are preferable.

If you want to continue this topic, it would probably be a good idea to make a new thread in off topic, as this sub-fourm is more for active preservation or projects.

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#758026
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Info Wanted: People seem to think black-crush & white-blow-out are bad, why?
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skoal said:

Many people post on here saying something about black-crush or white-blow-out, but don't explain the context of why that is bad in the context they are talking about. However, I would think, black-crush and white-blow-out are not inherently bad and mostly dependent on direction and production.

Perhaps why thinking of what black-crush and white-blow-out is wrong and my  interpretations  are below.

Black Crush -> when 2 pictures of the same scene have some dark (or shadow) details replaced with black

White Blow Out -> the opposite of black crush, when 2 pictures of the same scene have details replaced with white.

For anyone who got this far, I bring this up because I see lots of posts here and else where saying this version is bad because of black-crush or white-blow-outs, and that makes no sense. 

 You are correct, there is nothing inherently wrong with this and this is frequently used in the production of many films. The problem arises when new releases of old films have had their contrast and color timing screwed with. This is a preservation forum, and people want their disks to look somewhat close to how they looked in theaters.

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#757885
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Ghostbusters - Criterion PCM Track (see Jonno's post; plus lots more info) (Released)
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_,,,^..^,,,_ said:

Let's say that BD 4K has the "right" color grading, but it has also contrast problems, while the BD pre-4K has the right contrast, but not the color grading... well, as the contrast problems could not be completely solved, we could just regrade the BD pre-4K using the BD 4K as color reference...

 No. The 4k has the best contrast of all the released discs. The pre-4k blu-ray is the one with contrast problems (the frequently blown out whites are clearly wrong). In the comparison shot you posted, you can clearly see that both faces and the smoke are overexposed in the pre-4k blu-ray. In another comparison shot from page 3 of this thread you can see that the pre-4k bluray looks atrocious with ridiculous blooming whites, while the 4k remaster has natural contrast that preserves detail.

The 4k blu-ray is the best home media release of the film. The only reason this thread got restarted is that jedimasterobiwan thinks the 1999 DVD is somehow more accurate.... or something..... I don't really understand how he thinks.

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#757643
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Ghostbusters - Criterion PCM Track (see Jonno's post; plus lots more info) (Released)
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,^…^, said:

It seems that the pre-4K BD color grading is similar to old DVD (and maybe HDTV):

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/21921/picture:0

Yes, and that (2nd) DVD was widely criticized for being way too bright and blowing the highlights out. The first bluray just recycles that transfer. The 4k bluray definitely has the best colors of any home media release so far. (The first dvd is murky and pink and the 2nd DVD/1st Bluray is way too bright.)

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#756958
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All Things Star Trek
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SilverWook said:

ATMachine said:

I hope that's true. I myself recall hearing that Digital Domain (the studio that did CGI for DS9, Voyager, and Insurrection) trashed all its old rendering files when the studio went through bankruptcy.

I'd much rather prefer that you be right and I wrong on this.

 The version I've heard is an employee kept backups of the files. Where the truth lies is anyone's guess.

Different employes have partial backups of different things, but collecting and cataloging them all would be a large undertaking. Robert Bonchune supposedly has a fairly extensive personal backup. Some stuff would probably have to be remade.

Unfortunately, I don't think that DS9 is going to happen anytime soon. What I really would like to see is an HD version of TMP Director's cut.

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#754955
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Info: Films re-color timed on video releases
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TylerDurden389 said:

Top Gun was and always will be one of my favorite movies. Definitely watched it over 500 times over my life. Here's the problem though. The VHS tape aspect ratio was the entire image. So now the so called "widescreen" versions show less. Being the film is about about supersonic jets, I can't imagine why they'd cover up like 30% of the image. The image is so burned in my head that I simply can't watch any dvd/blu-ray release, regardless of how good it looks lol.

So as ridiculous as this sounds, the only preservation I'd like to see is the best picture quality possible from the "full scope" (or whatever) version lol.

And a release of Faltermeyer's entire score would be very nice to :D

Top Gun is shot in Super 35, so the frame is composed for the tighter widescreen aspect ratio, but can be opened up for home video transfers. The widescreen version is how it was presented in theaters. Of course, open matte versions are neat to see as well.

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#747922
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Team Negative1 - The Empire Strikes Back 1980 - 35mm Theatrical Version (Released)
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Asaki said:

ElectricTriangle said:

Change "Sorted by" from best to new (it's just above the comment box). This only works on a thread level as Reddit is really not that well suited to a forum style dialogue.

That just sorts it so the most recently created threads are at the top. I'd like to be able to see new replies without having to open up every single thread and skim it.

 Reddit Enhancement Suite show the number of comments added since you last visited a post on the subbreddit page. (If you don't have RES, it's practically a necessity.)

This userscript apparently seems to highlight new comments since you last visited a post: http://userscripts-mirror.org/scripts/show/157032

I haven't used it, but it might suit your purposes. Reddit is unfortunately not well suited to small, fourm-like dialogue.

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#746764
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Info: Buffy The Vampire Slayer (TV Show) "Remastered" in HD
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It's a disaster. Hopeful it never gets released on home media this way. Joss Whedon is aware and he doesn't like it.

Unfortunately, HBO managed to convince David Simon to agree to screw up the framing on the Wire, which is a terrible precedent for remastering shows.

Why are people so vehemently opposed to black bars? Star Trek looks great in HD in 4:3, but apparently everyone now wants to screw with classic tv shows. HD reruns of Seinfeld look so stupid, with the top and bottom of the frame cropped down and absolutely useless information added to the sides that we were never meant to see.

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#745573
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Harmy's RETURN OF THE JEDI Despecialized Edition HD - V3.1
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EGOvoruhk said:

Looking forward to 2.0!

Can I make a request for the MKV version? In that you crop out the black bars when encoding it? I don't always play everything back on a 16:9 screen, so it would be nice to scale it horizontally rather than vertically like Star Wars 2.1/Empire 2.0

 Both VLC and MPC can crop out the black bars during playback.

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#744993
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New Preservation Forum - AMPS: Analog Media Preservation Society
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TV's Frink said:

So I take it this is where I go to complain about reddit...so...boo reddit!  Trying to read anything there makes my eyes bleed.  Something about the layout/format, I can't explain exactly.

Reddit enhancement suite will make the comments sort somewhat better. It also gives you a dark mode if the white is too bright for your eyes.

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#744834
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Harmy's THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK Despecialized Edition HD - V2.0 - MKV & AVCHD (Released)
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Wazzles said:

 It's impressive how much detail was lost on the arms in the Blu Ray verion- they look like thin little sticks. You can actually see the entirety of the arms in this.

 That's the GOUT in the 2.0. The Bluray wasn't used because it was composited differently. It would actually have the most detail, being digitally composited.

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#742449
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Harmy's STAR WARS Respecialized Edition '97 - AVCHD and MKV Released
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imagazzell said:

Hello, all. A few quick questions on burning this project to disc...

1) Would one be better off burning the MKV file straight to BD (my player can play MKVs) so as to take advantage of the higher bit-rate and DTS-HD track, or just going with the AVCHD?

2) Does the AVCHD ISO contain disc menus, chapters, etc.?

3) I've seen Harmy's advice to another member on here to mux the DTS track to the AVCHD video stream. Would anyone be so kind as to point me in the right direction as to how exactly to do that?... Should this be done in a program like HandBrake, or somewhere during the burn process?

Thanks.

 1) Just go with the AVCHD unless you really want the three audio tracks. The difference in video is small, as is the difference between the Dolby and the DTS tracks.

2) Both the AVCHD and MKV have chapters, but no menus.

3) If you want to mux audio use tsMuxeR for making .ts or mkvmerge/MKVtoolnix for making mkv's.